Perl Institute dissolved

david landgren writes " The Perl Institute has decided to call it a day. The main reason, according to Larry Wall, is that the Institute was "top-down", but Perl's culture is much more "bottom-up". The Institute's most valuable assets, the domains perl.org and cpan.org have been offered to the Perl Mongers. By the way, have you checked out whether there's a Perl Monger chapter in your part of the world? "

Yes, indeed you must

[Indomitus]

I love Perl. I can program in other languages but I can safely say the only one I will go out of my way to promote is Perl. One of my favorite Larry Wall quotes is "I don't want people to say 'I can program in Perl,' I want them to say 'I'm a Perl programmer.' Exactly how I feel and I'm sure many others also.

Perl sucks!

[shrike]

Some people say perl sucks. They point to some piece of perlcode crawling along at 3 miles/hour. 'Look, perl sucks!'.

Then, when they take a look at the programmers next project (written either in C of Java), they find out it also crawls along at about 3 miles/hour. 'Gee, how can that be?'

The best recipe for a fast program is a smart algorithm. If you give the job to a mediocre programmer, nothing's going to save your project (except maybe buying that $30K quad-Xeon machine).

There are occasions perl isn't a good choice though. For instance, the software operating a sidewinder missle probably should be written in some other language. Apart from that, just about anything can be written in perl ;)

Mathijs

assets

[sql*kitten]

just out of curiousity, i know domain names go for $$$ these days, but were perl.org and cpan.org really it's most valuable assets (in dollars)? does anyone have any figures?

Poll: My coding style is:

[root]

[ ] Top-Down (Break up big taks into bite sized chunks)
[ ] Bottom Up (You can't build until you have a good set of tools)
[ ] Just dive in and code
[ ] Wait for orders from management
[ ] Cut, paste, tweak; cut, paste, tweak; bash, bash, hack; debug, debug, debug.

Question:

[Matts]

Not really. They weren't really being as productive as they could have been, whereas the Perl Mongers have been extremely successful.

I just hope they keep the news page going - it was the only thing I ever got out of TPI.

perl -e 'print scalar reverse q(\)-: ,hacker Perl another Just)'

Yes, you really must.

[Eric E. Coe]

I find Perl to be the most fun to program in, of all the languages I know: C, C++, Basic, Asm, Forth, AWK, Bourne Shell, Java ... too bad I can't use it for everything.

Read More About It

[pudge]

This was first made public on the Perl News [perl.org] (specifically, http://www.perl.org/cgi-bin/tpi-news?type=text&tex t=Votes+to+Dissolve [perl.org]), which is on perl.org but is not run by The Perl Institute directly (I run it :).

Anyway, Perl News will continue to have the latest and greatest about the goings on with TPI and Perl Mongers and perl.org and cpan.org and the professor and Mary Ann.

Re:assets

[pudge]

Actual assets are about $3000, a fax machine, and the domain names, I believe.

Question:

[Now15]

Is this a bad thing?

--
We have one cable internet provider in Australia and it sucks. [bigpond.net.au]

ack! what about DNS for bio.perl.org and others?

[chris.dag]

The bioperl project depends on the perl.org
DNS server for our box bio.perl.org.

(we do have bioperl.org just in case)

I sent an email to the boston-pm gurus but if
anyone out there can assure me that DNS for the
perl.org domains will be transitioned smoothly
I would _greatly_ appreciate it.

On the upside it is great to see the perl user groups (pm.org) taking off.

-chris

CPAN!!

[dave_cross]

www.cpan.org is only one of the dozens of sites where CPAN can be found. You can get a get a list of them from www.perl.com.

Having said that, I'm sure that the Mongers will take good care of the domain :-)

Dave...
London.pm

must learn

[dave_cross]

You must learn to spell 'Perl' one of these days!

CPAN!!

[Plank]

Yeah dave you tell them :) I think this a good move, if only to allow them a break from a job that can be handled by the mongers well enough. Dont worry, its not as if they've announced the end of Perl as we know it. Duncan London.pm

must learn

[redemption]

I must learn pearl one of these day

late April Fool's joke?

[CrudPuppy]

please tell me its not so!!

Old news

[Trojan]

This is dated March 1, and I remember reading this on Slashdot before.

Re:Perl sucks!

[SlashDread]

Considering the amount of swing offs in Kosovo, maybe the missle thingies were re-programmed with MFC C++ ?

- If you see a MS bashing chance, take it.

Re:Perl sucks!

[Paddi D]

...and by the way: Perl is just right for those 'I don't wanna spend the whole day coding this damn "use it once" tools' jobs.
Regards...

late April Fool's joke?

[Abigail]

Crudpuppy asks: "Please tell me it isn't so".

It is. It isn't new news either. If it was an April fools joke, it would be an *early* one. This news dates from early march.

Hopefully, slashdot will usually publish recent news, not something that's old and forgotten....

--- Abigail

Bath.pm World Map

[god]

Oh, and a quick way to find out about Perl Monger Chapters in your neck of the woods is the fairly-up-to-date and quite-underpublicised Bath.pm Perl Monger World Map [pm.org].