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Firefox 35 Arrives With MP4 Playback On Mac, Android Download Manager Support 177

Posted by Soulskill from the onward-and-upward dept.
An anonymous reader writes: Mozilla today launched Firefox 35 for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android. Major additions to the browser include room-based Firefox Hello conversations, H.264 (MP4 files) playback on OS X, and integration with the Android download manager. Mozilla has opened up the Firefox Marketplace for the desktop, currently in beta. While Firefox Marketplace is already available on Firefox OS and Firefox for Android, the company is now asking users to help test apps on Windows, Mac, and Linux. Full changelogs: desktop and Android.
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Firefox 35 Arrives With MP4 Playback On Mac, Android Download Manager Support

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  • MORE SHIT??? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @05:28PM (#48806465)

    Fuck off Mozilla, we do NOT want this cesspool of added crap. Light, fast and bulletproof is what is wanted, not this repulsive nonsense.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Couldn't agree more. And I also want the classical UI back, you know the one that was actually usable.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Just press F10 to get the old menus back.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by gweihir ( 88907 )

          Together wit classical theme restorer, that is actually usable. Thanks!

          • Pale Moon [palemoon.org] for the win !!!!

            I switched from Firefox about two months ago and I haven't looked back.

            Take back the web with Pale Moon :)

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by gweihir ( 88907 )

              I am hoping for that. I already have it installed on a memory stick, just did not have the time to test it out. I very much like their commitment to keep the UI and not experiment recklessly on their user-base. And with FF as basis, it should be able to get a good security track-record as well.

        • Or right-click almost anywhere.

        • Or you can just press Alt, as in any Windows application to open the menu?
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    • Re:MORE SHIT??? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by wonkey_monkey ( 2592601 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @07:06PM (#48807209) Homepage

      Fuck off Mozilla, we do NOT want this cesspool of added crap.

      Then don't use it. Installing Firefox is optional, you know. Or do you feel Mozilla should be beholden to you in return for all those thousands of dollars you never quite got around to donating?

    • It's not advertised, but key pinning is an important security feature that's finally made it into the base program.

      Now, if only they wouldn't throw up so many roadblocks with self-signed certs. But cert pinning is a good start that they recognize the old model of secure vs insecure based on a cert alone is no longer sufficient. I say, switch to a new model based on the grade of security. E.g.:

      Secure and authentic (green)
      Secure but maybe not authentic (yellow)
      Authentic but possibly insecure, also mixed conte

    • They need to change the focus AWAY from "Let's keep throwing stuff at Mozilla something's gotta stick"
    • You haven't used it. I know this because the latest FF is actually quite good. I switched from Chrome to Firefox on Lollipop and there's no going back unless Chrome gives me custom search engines (Yandex, Baidu, DDG at a minimum) and better privacy options like rejecting third-party cookies. And performance is roughly the same. Desktop-wise Chromium is slightly better but the extensions are worse, like Youtube downloaders and things that Google hates.

    • You'd rather have to rely on the Flash plugin? You realize you can now watch YouTube and other sites flash-free but you don't see that as reducing bloat?
      Related - MP4 in Firefox fixes one of the most irritating bugs in the history of the web - the fact that browser shortcuts don't work while you are watching a flash video.

      Pat

  • Now FF thinks it has both version 10 and version 11.

    Someone messed up bad. Real bad.

  • What's scary is (Score:5, Interesting)

    by steveg ( 55825 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @05:48PM (#48806633)

    ...that Firefox is still my favorite browser. I really don't care for any of the rest, but my gods, what kinds of drugs are they doing over at the Mozilla compound?

    • obviously none they are willing to share.

    • Re:What's scary is (Score:4, Informative)

      by BenFenner ( 981342 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @05:56PM (#48806715)
      You should give PaleMoon [palemoon.org] a try. Firefox without all the GUI madness of the last few years.

      Also, I noticed this quote from the Firefox Hello page:
      "Recently, we introduced Firefox Hello, the first global communications system built directly into a browser to help make things easier."

      Have they never heard of Virtual Places? It was a browser with built-in chat rooms for each web page. Every web page you visited put you in a chat with everyone else on that page. There were avatars you moved around on the page, and "gestures" and, whatever. This was 1994 or so...

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        tried palemoon and had to give it up.

        some extensions do not work and I see no reason for that. some of the adblockers refuse to run. this is NOT good!

        youtube and other flash sites still are broken. has been for months.

        I gave up. its not worth this effort.

        I strongly dislike the current FF UI but palemoon just doesn't 'get it' when it comes to working with existing plugins. if you ask me to run alternate ones, you just DON'T GET IT and I won't spend any more time on using your product.

        pity..

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by OhPlz ( 168413 )

          The only issues I've hit is that you can't get at Adblock Plus's settings, which is kind of weird. There's a fork you can install that fixes it. The only other glitch I've seen is that the search bar on Google's Play store disappears. That can be worked around by modifying the user-agent string. Other than that, it works fine. No issues with Youtube, even with plugins to download videos from it.

          This is with the x64 build. I've been using it ever since the CEO firing thing happened.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by nazsco ( 695026 )

          you should have read the warning when you selected the 64bit installer. same happens with firefox and chrome.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by caseih ( 160668 )

        I'm using PaleMoon 25 on Linux (64-bit) and am pretty happy with it. Unlike Firefox, on Linux it defaults to highlighting the url and seach box contents when you click on them, which makes middle-click pasting impossible. Fortunately for the URL bar, there's a setting to not highlight it on click (browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll). For the search box for now I use a add-on to add a clear button to the box. People talk like the highlight then middle click feature of X11 is an outdated feature that's quaint

        • Hmm I just found out that Firefox over 31 changed the way certificates are handled and now all my internal certs signed by own CA are broken. Can't even get an exception dialog box. Just an error about how it can't load the page. And from the bug reports, it sounds like a lot of devices are broken now too. Arguably I should comply with some 46-page document on CA Cert best practices. What a mess. Why does Firefox and Google keep pushing the idea that self-signed certs are not secure? In any case, with

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by caseih ( 160668 )

            I also should comply with RFCs too as my cert appears to violate part of one RFC. Problem was I'm not an SSL expert so I didn't know where to look. In any case, the devs have been fairly responsive on bugzilla to this issue and I've received a lot of help, which really impressed me. I've also suggested that in the future, the failure modes of SSL verification, particularly in Thunderbird, should pop up more descriptive messages than simply "unknown error occurred." Ideally a utility to check certificate

        • Wow, I never thought about middle click pasting on Wayland. It's a feature I don't think about anymore, and I find myself mistakingly trying to use it while under Windows.
          I will thus keep running X11 forever if Wayland can't get its act together about it, or alternatively I will run Wayland with the built-in X11 server on top to manage the entire desktop or if that's possible every window or surface except the panels and video games.

          • It's a feature I don't think about anymore, and I find myself mistakingly trying to use it while under Windows.

            Then remap the action of your middle mouse button. I've been able to do that with every mouse I've owned in Windows for more than 15 years.

    • Re:What's scary is (Score:4, Informative)

      by steelfood ( 895457 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @07:46PM (#48807489)

      You shouldn't put all the blame on Mozilla. HTML5, the one standard to rule them all, is the real issue here. HTML5 essentially is the specification for an operating system over the web. It's a monstrosity that never should have been born.

      Mozilla still gets the blame for the constant UI changes. But the real demon is HTML5.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by steveg ( 55825 )

        Is this a "they couldn't help themselves, it was just too tempting" kind of defense? :)

        I think the constant UI changes are worse, but both are annoying.

    • ...Firefox is still my favorite browser..

      You're in a dwindling minority.

      .
      It looks like [w3schools.com] Firefox started 2014 with a 26.9% market share, and ended 2014 with a 23.6% market share.

      Yup, those Mozilla people must be doing something right.

  • I guess it has the same one as the last version, so no.

  • First I started with Palemoon because the interface wasn't that abortion they call Australis. But Palemoon seemed to be getting slower so I gave Chrome a try and liked it. Not without a few essential addons like Adblock, Flashblock, and a home button. We're at a crossroads right now like when Netscape 4 came out and IE really improved.

  • ... like WebIDE, Marketplace and the new "Tools->Apps" menu item - that I (and 99% of all other Desktop users) will probably *never* use, but can't easily remove from the menu; WebRTC (rooms or otherwise) etc ... Crap, junk and bloat.

    Isn't there a version of Firefox that simply supports, you know, Web Browsing?

    • Re:Great. More "things I don't need" in my browse (Score:4, Interesting)

      by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @07:01PM (#48807155)

      And I'd like to follow up by asking the Firefox developers if they can add something like a "Features" tab under (perhaps) "Tools->Add-ons" to allow users to easily en/disable the various (non web-browsing) Firefox features, like WebIDE, WebRTC, Marketplace, Social, Taskbar Lists, Geo, Beacon, UI Tour, yada, yada, yada... -- so I don't have to scan through "about:config" looking for new things ending in ".enabled" (and the like) to set to "false" with every new Firefox release. Thank you in advance.

  • also changes your default search engine (Score:3)

    by Tumbleweed ( 3706 ) on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @06:21PM (#48806909)

    ...to "Yahoo!". Easy to change back, though. :)

  • I've been updating FF and successfully restoring my previous session for years.
    Now sessions don't even work with a brand new, fresh profile.
    Epic FAIL.

    • Discovered that session support is silently disabled in 35 if com.indexedDB.enabled = false.
      And no, I did not set that to false myself--don't know what addon did it nor when.
      FF provides no logging about the fact either.

  • the last time they put out a release that actually had something that I used.

  • I learned that Microsoft PAYS people to use Bing search! [bing.com] But people only get paid if they do Bing searches directly, not through Yahoo.

    I don't understand how that works. Can someone make a software robot to do searches and visit ads, and then get paid? Why have a job when your computer can make money unaided?

    Microsoft pays Yahoo, Yahoo then paid Mozilla Foundation to sneakily make Bing the default search engine, and not Google search, realizing that most people don't have the technical ability to know

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ShaunC ( 203807 )

      I don't understand how that works. Can someone make a software robot to do searches and visit ads, and then get paid? Why have a job when your computer can make money unaided?

      Yes, Google (or Bing) for bing rewards bot. You, too, can raise your utility bill while earning a whopping $5 worth of credits per month to apply to your XBox Live account. Don't quit your day job just yet.

  • “Every program attempts to expand until it includes a marketplace/appstore/.... Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which do.”

    • iOS has a store. Android has a store. Unsurprisingly, Firefox OS has a store.

      What they're doing is extending same said store to the desktop, so that you can run the apps from your phone on your PC.

      Quite handy if you're in the minority (myself included) that are blessed with a Firefox OS handset!

  • Firefox jumped the shark when they finally did away with a functional search bar. Now it's all about the forks, like Palemoon.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Care to elaborate on what makes the new search bar so much more complicated?

  • Native admx controls (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    pretty please

  • Seriously guys, nobody gives a damn about these nonsense features. Work on the memory hog that Firefox has become and work on fixing the crescent number of bugs and working on making it light again. Nobody cares about the stuff you keep adding anymore and it's just making the problem even worst.

  • Hover or mouseover is broken in 35. Something very haywire.
  • Go Firefox! Good job as always.

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