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Microsoft Reports Record Revenue

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the reports-of-their-demise-etc. dept.

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jones_supa sends this AFP report: "Microsoft soared to record revenues in the last quarter, confounding Wall Street forecasts on the back of strong demand for Xbox consoles, Surface tablets and Internet cloud services. The U.S.-based technology titan reported net income of $6.56 billion on revenue that hit a record high of $24.52 billion in the quarter that ended December 31. ... Sales of Surface tablets more than doubled from the previous quarter to hit $893 million, and Microsoft sold 7.4 million Xbox videogame consoles, with 3.9 million of those being new-generation Xbox One. Bing's share of the Internet search market grew to 18.2 percent while its share of the online search ad market grew about a third, according to Microsoft. Meanwhile, money made from selling Windows software to computer makers slid by three percent due to continue soft demand by consumers for personal computers, according to Microsoft."

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Wow. (5, Insightful)

korbulon (2792438) | about a year ago | (#46057353)

Imagine what these numbers would be if they actually knew what the fuck they were doing.

Re:Wow. (1)

NormHome (99305) | about a year ago | (#46057407)

I was about to post "Imagine how much they could make if they did things right" but you kinda stole my line :-)

Re:Wow. (4, Funny)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | about a year ago | (#46057637)

Obviously a lot of people want to learn how to breakdance. That's what Surface tablets are for, right? I watch a lot of tv commercials

Re:Wow. (4, Interesting)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about a year ago | (#46057877)

Obviously a lot of people want to learn how to breakdance. That's what Surface tablets are for, right? I watch a lot of tv commercials

I've got one (the original PRO), it's great for a portable device. Full on windows that can actually run real programs yet shaped like a tablet. I've got an ipad and a Samsung galaxy tab that were used for a couple months but then were relegated to dust collection. Man can only play so much angry birds...

I prefer taking it to meetings over my laptop.

And remember. It's just an intel Core i5 computer with an SSD and 4gb of ram shaped like a tablet. If you don't like win8, then install Linux, or whatever OS you want on one.

It's not even close to perfect, but it's the best attempt at a tablet I've seen for sale.

Re:Wow. (2)

geeper (883542) | about a year ago | (#46058081)

Agreed. I got the pro 2 a few weeks ago and am very happy with it. I use it in meetings mostly but can do anything else (during the meeting) if needed. I can easily see it completely replacing my pc/laptop in the future.

Re:Wow. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#46058095)

It's really just a touchscreen laptop with a crappy keyboard. Yes, it's more functional than most tablets, but there are more powerful laptops about the same size and weight with better performance, etc. They're pretty much functionally equivalent,aren't they?

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057435)

Which they are you talking about? The idiots at microsoft or the idiots buying that crap?

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057551)

Yes, over 90% of people are idiots. Good thing we have "smart" people like you to save the day!

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057615)

Don't you like know man... MS is the man, man... You are like an idiot if you buys their stuff, man... Totally. You should support a happening company like Apple, man... They totally get it man and aren't a greedy corporation trying to keep you down man.

Re:Wow. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057447)

Indeed. I know 3 people that got surface tablets for Christmas, despite the fact they were infected with Windows 8. Apparently the demand is there for the hardware, the software is just in the way.

Re:Wow. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057683)

How is Windows 8 "in the way" on a tablet? It's probably the best tablet OS out there right now.

Re:Wow. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057865)

you shut your whore mouth

Re:Wow. (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | about a year ago | (#46057903)

The Surface 2 is basically sold out everywhere. Whether that's because sales are amazing, or they underestimated demand, or a little of both, I can't say. I got one for myself this Christmas. It's a really great tablet. Only downside I see is lack of apps, but it has enough apps to get everything done.

Re:Wow. (2)

fast turtle (1118037) | about a year ago | (#46057987)

Looking at the hardware specs of the Surface Pro 2, I've actually considered it as a viable replacement for my desktop since I can use a keyboard/mouse and connect it to a full sized 1080 display. The only annoying issue is the limited RAM - 4GB if getting the 64/128GB drive and 8GB on the 256/512GB units. Now if they offered all of them with 8GB of memory, you'd have a decent unit even with a 64GB drive. Don't kid yourself that it's enough space as the OS alone uses half of that (32GB) which makes the micro-sd slot an imperative just to hold user files. Other then those issues, Win8.1 actually works pretty well (currently testing on my desktop) so having a dual mode system like this is useful to me just don't know when I'll buy one due to pricing.

Re:Wow. (2)

Technician (215283) | about a year ago | (#46057477)

If Microsoft knew what they were doing, Intel would also be doing much better. At least Intel is looking to break into mobile with or without Microsoft. The new lines of low power chips look promising.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057733)

If Microsoft knew what they were doing, Intel would also be doing much better

Perhaps that's what makes this intentional?

Nah: Hanlon's Razor.

Re:Wow. (1)

JoeMerchant (803320) | about a year ago | (#46057485)

Like an advancing glacier...

Re:Wow. (5, Funny)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about a year ago | (#46057541)

I assume that the company you run made more than $6.5B last quarter.

Re:Wow. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057581)

I assume that the company you run made more than $6.5B last quarter.

Yeah. Didn't yours? Duh, I thought we were all multi-billionaire Silicon Valley douchebags here on Slashdot.

Well, besides the plebs from flyover country, but who cares about them? They don't make shinies.

Re:Wow. (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#46057699)

$6.5 Bitcoin and a quarter? Do you have my books?

Re:Wow. (1)

ThatsDrDangerToYou (3480047) | about a year ago | (#46057821)

I assume that the company you run made more than $6.5B last quarter.

Well, no, but we could if we wanted to. We pretty much just blew it all on the holiday party.

Re:Wow. (1)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#46057591)

and how much of your cloud runs on Azure?

Re:Wow. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057599)

Office 365, Win Server, Skype ... not all 100k staff at Microsoft should be judged by a misguided Win 8 start screen.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057887)

This. And people even judge win8 on basis of single screen that happens to open instead of start menu.

Yes, guys. I love windows 8!

Re:Wow. (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#46057643)

I'm not currently a MSFT stockholder, but if I were this would make me happier. Still, I'd be concerned that their high-margin businesses seem to be declining while their hardware businesses are on the increase. Their current stock price is supported by margins over 70% - going mainly hardware will push them down, if they are lucky, to Apple-like levels of 30%, or Dell levels much lower than that if they go for the low end. In other words, revenue HAS to increase simply to maintain income as they see more hardware business.

Re:Wow. (1)

alexander_686 (957440) | about a year ago | (#46057835)

You want to focus on future revenue growth, not on margins.

First it is natural for margins to fall for growth companies. When young they have the market to themselves. Their success draws competitors that push margins down. Also, hopefully, when they are young they pursue the top tier opportunities. As they get bigger they expand into lower tier opportunities. Hopefully still profitable but they don’t carry the mouthwatering margins.

Second, hardware companies will always have lower margins. With software, you spend your money upfront for development. Margin is calculated on the cost of selling the software, not developing it. With hardware you actually have to buy inventory to make the finished product. Then you have to drop in the cost of selling the hardware.

Margin is a characteristic of a company. The level and direction can tell you a lot about a company but not if it is a good company to invest in or not.

Re:Wow. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#46058139)

Notice they're heading for an Apple-like model? Hardware margins will be fine when they only allow MS software to run on their hardware.

Re:Wow. (1)

Salgat (1098063) | about a year ago | (#46057707)

Considering they are doing great on their XBox, Office, and enterprise lines and at least trying some innovative moves (while still profiting quite well off Windows 7) I'd say they are doing a damn fine job for the most part.

Re: Wow. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057839)

I am curious how much they would have made if 2/3 rds of their workers
could speak english fluently, had more than a trade school education,
didn,t go around gang banging women and didn't hate gay people?

Re:Wow. (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | about a year ago | (#46058029)

Imagine what these numbers would be if they actually knew what the fuck they were doing.

Maybe they don't need a CEO. When Ballmer leaves just convert the office into a pet daycare annex.

They do... Server prices went up last year. (1)

mlts (1038732) | about a year ago | (#46058067)

They do know what they are doing. The cost of licenses went up by a good chunk of change (think 20% or so.) Because most businesses rely on MS for day to day use, that additional 20% in license revenue definitely didn't hurt revenue gains.

Mostly Android revenue (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057395)

Nuff said.

Re:Mostly Android revenue (1)

used2win32 (531824) | about a year ago | (#46058089)

I am sure a lot of it is... don't they make about $10.00 per Android device license? (I think they make more there than they do with Windows phone/mobile services...)

Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0, Troll)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#46057405)

Microsoft has had some rough times both because they missed the boat on the Mobile Revolution and because they _royally_ fucked up by trying to turn the desktop into Metro. Their heart was in the right place by trying to make one unified interface to help them in the mobile business, but it's just an epic fail. It would have been so easy to do it right, too - make Metro the default on touch-enabled interfaces, but make it easy to disable it and make the desktop the default on non touch devices.

But I think they will ultimately be successful because they're the best software development company in the world. That's controversial (though it shouldn't be) but they are. They have the money, the culture, and the people to write very good software when they don't make otherwise bad decisions (like Metro Everywhere). That's why I bought an Xbox One instead of a PS4, not because I hate Sony but because Microsoft is fundamentally a better software company and I expect more and better features from them.

Same thing in the mobile market - Windows Phone is very nice technically and their development tools are leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else's. This doesn't assure them success but it's something only a fool would dismiss.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (5, Insightful)

RaceProUK (1137575) | about a year ago | (#46057513)

That reads almost too much like a sales pitch/shill post.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1, Flamebait)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#46057563)

I know, I didn't throw in enough mindless "Micro$hafts" or invoke Clippy enough. I'll try harder next time.

I'm a .NET developer so I'm a Fanboy because nothing else comes close for enterprise development.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (4, Insightful)

Shaman (1148) | about a year ago | (#46057665)

> I'm a .NET developer so I'm a Fanboy because nothing else comes close for enterprise development.

Wow. That's a real head-shaker.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (-1, Troll)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#46057713)

Not if you know what the fuck you're doing... You neckbeards crack me up. In what way would you debate .NET as the king of traditional enterprise apps? What are you going to use to develop n-tier apps with high availability requirements, Python and PHP lolzers?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057881)

Node.js of course! Get with the times geezer!

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057913)

There are plenty of languages and platforms that have these features.

Java?
http://hadoop.apache.org/
http://cassandra.apache.org/

Linux?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Supercomputers

c++?
Google's servers

Javascript?
(every webpage made in the last 10 years)

The reason that .NET is used is because no one has ever been fired for buying IBM, and the people who sign checks have seen the name.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057923)

If you know what the fuck you're doing, the language is only vaguely relevant, with respect to "enterprise apps" (vs "normal apps").

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46058023)

Noobs can't even use tiles. What kind of professional doesn't use tiles? ME-TRO! ME-TRO! ME-TRO!

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#46058215)

... unless your 'enterprise' (damn, I hate that term) is ... you know ... multi-platform?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057703)

I know, I didn't throw in enough mindless "Micro$hafts" or invoke Clippy enough. I'll try harder next time.

I'm a .NET developer so I'm a Fanboy because nothing else comes close for enterprise development.

You're fanboy for the wrong reasons. Microsoft is the classic bully. They take a standard and change it enough to be a pain in the ass for everyone else to integrate with. Then you have to explain to management that MS is doing something a little different that causes problems. Inevitably, a fanboy like yourself will pipe up and say that if everything were Microsoft, we wouldn't have this problem, when in fact because things are Microsoft, we have the problem.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but my experience is that most people who program using MS tools are clueless. Not because their stupid, but because Microsoft makes all the decisions for them. Web services aren't a good idea until MS came out with the VS Web Service Wizard.

There's a reason Microsoft's address is One Microsoft Way.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057975)

And AJAX wasn't a good idea until Microsoft introduced it in IE6, because w3c & ecma couldn't make a standard in 3 fucking years? And browser plugins weren't a good idea until Microsoft introduced ActiveX?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (3, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#46058245)

ActiveX was not a good idea.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46058011)

My experience with integrating enterprise software is exactly the opposite. MS is leaps and bounds ahead of just about all of their competitors in terms of documentation and standards based APIs (SOAP/REST services).

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057951)

I know, I didn't throw in enough mindless "Micro$hafts" or invoke Clippy enough. I'll try harder next time.

I'm a .NET developer so I'm a Fanboy because nothing else comes close for enterprise development.

Hey man, the .NET stack is awesome, I won't dispute that. But claiming the toolchain or the stack surpasses Java is laughable at this point. Yes, Java and Oracle have some serious problems to address and have drug their feet on several issues, however the stack is amazing, I'd take Maven 3 and Eclipse plus free plugins any day over Visual Studio and NuGet.

There's a reason most really big server stuff out there runs on the Java stack, few people realize how much of the cloud/networking code of ALL the stuff they use is Java. Whether you're playing WOW or LoL to kick back or using almost any of your banking and investment sites, you're certainly benefitting from Java.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | about a year ago | (#46057819)

Just because someone has a preference you don't agree with doesn't make them a shill.

Not to mention that you're just resorting to an ad hominem attack instead of arguing a legitimate counterpoint.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (3, Insightful)

Stormwatch (703920) | about a year ago | (#46057605)

Their heart was in the right place by trying to make one unified interface to help them in the mobile business, but it's just an epic fail.

How can it be right to push for a fundamentally flawed idea?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (2)

dkleinsc (563838) | about a year ago | (#46057945)

A simple example of why this is wrong: Let's say you have a simple Yes/No question to ask. For tablets, the right thing to do is blank out the screen, put the question more-or-less in the middle, with two large icons to poke. For desktops, it's a standard Yes/No dialog box. For phones, you're better off with the question across the top, and then the Yes and No buttons taking up almost the entire screen.

That's 3 different interfaces with 3 different interactions that are easy to pull off because you're interacting with different kinds of objects. Trying to make them all the same is so monumentally and obviously stupid I'm at a loss for why attempting to do so is all the rage in the UI design world (I'm looking at you too, Gnome3 and Unity). My best guess is that UI designers are working feverishly on it because it's one of the few areas of their field where there isn't a pretty clear understanding of what the Right Thing is, and so that's where they can get creative and innovative (and ideally rich if they find a really really good idea and patent it).

Anyone here working in UI design that might be able to explain it better to me?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (2)

jimbobborg (128330) | about a year ago | (#46057621)

Too bad you used IE to post this or you would have spelled rumor correctly in the title.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

recoiledsnake (879048) | about a year ago | (#46057689)

Ugh, another one of those posts from someone who hasn't used MS products since 1999 yet feels qualified to comment on them in 2014.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/micr... [zdnet.com]

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

zakkudo (2638939) | about a year ago | (#46057805)

Wonderful. Can you tell my why SQL Server 2008 won't install if Windows 8 is using Japanese as the language of the OS? Once you've done this, SQL Server bugs out and refuses to install no matter what hte lanugage is. I would have thought by 2008 MS would have figured out internationalization. I have never seen such a fundimental an issue like this before. I ended up having my whole machine re-imaged on me.

I'm not impressed with how much of my personal time this wasted.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (4, Funny)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#46057933)

If you choose Japanese, you need to install SQR Server 2008.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (2)

iluvcapra (782887) | about a year ago | (#46058069)

(removes glasses, pinches bridge of nose, wonders why he's been coming to this fucking site every couple days for 20 years now...)

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Jaktar (975138) | about a year ago | (#46058091)

Hory. Fucking. Shit. I just raffed out roud.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#46057721)

Lol, actually Chrome. I'm just retarded is all.

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057639)

Bruce Willis has more than one daughter named Rumer?

Re:Rumers..demise..exaggerated. (2)

davidcoble (1726708) | about a year ago | (#46057843)

You make a compelling argument, and I find it hard to disagree with you.

I would only point out two broad areas where Microsoft seems to be a little weaker than some of its big competitors: innovation and quality control.

And I'm finding it hard to make a case for innovation. I could argue that they don't come up with new ideas, they borrow ideas that already work for someone else, but that's not really a sin in my book. Who was it that said "good artists borrow from other artists, great artists steal?" I could argue that they won't jump ahead of the curve--won't release new products until they're assured of success, but witness the Zune and Metro. So let's grant them innovation.

The quality control thing is embarrassing. The culture at MS seems to be that the general public is their beta test group. I think they released Vista so that all their other releases would shine by comparison (not really; it was an unintended benefit). I work around half a dozen bugs in MS products on a daily basis. Using their software has trained me not to trust software.

I'm not really sure how many epic fails a great software company gets before we have to call it mediocre. If they didn't have a strangle hold on OEMs and enterprise movers and shakers, I doubt they would have more than a 10% share of the desktop. On the other hand, if they didn't have that strangle hold, they wouldn't have such license to release buggy code. They are victims of their own success.

Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46058049)

I would have thought the biggest push-back you'd get on this would be that their software is insecure. Strangely, people are not piling on there. I'm sure somebody will, and here's the rebuttal: The Internet and security are bolt-ons to Windows, which is a bolt-on do DOS. Anybody in the industry will tell you that bolt-ons are hard. You'd never do a bolt-on unless you had no choice. Due to their massive installed base and the need to maintain backward compatability... they had no choice. So yes, they are pretty good developers. They had a massive anchor around their neck in the form of bolt-ons. Apple and others just throw legacy under the bus, which makes it easier. This is also why Metro sucks, because it's all part of MS's attempt to implement things that suck about other companies, instead of doing what they were doing right. Nobody noticed what they were doing right until they stopped doing it.

Price Drop (3, Funny)

phmadore (1391487) | about a year ago | (#46057417)

So this means the price of their software is gonna come down... right? :P

Re: Price Drop (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057549)

Nah, even better, they have enough money so they will just open source it!

Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057419)

Now can Slashdot please stop treating the Surface like Fox News treats Benghazi?

Re:Awesome (1)

approachingZero (1365381) | about a year ago | (#46057455)

So Slashdot is the only place you'll hear the truth about the Surface? I always wondered.

Re:Awesome (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#46057571)

The truth, meaning that it's a pretty damn nice product especially the Pro? Or perhaps you have specific criticisms?

Pro pricing and RT restrictions (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#46057755)

One specific criticism is that Microsoft priced the Surface Pro too high and placed too harsh restrictions on users of the regular Surface and other Windows RT devices in general. For example, Windows RT doesn't allow developers to recompile their desktop apps for use with, say, a Surface with the Type Cover connected. Only three desktop apps for RT are allowed: File Explorer, IE, and Office.

Re:Awesome (1)

approachingZero (1365381) | about a year ago | (#46058235)

I got my daughter a Asus - Transformer T100 - 32GB because I didn't feel like shelling out for a Surface Pro. There was some good reason I went with it instead of the Surface RT, something about Outlook. All I know is I really like the little guy, battery life is freakishly long.

The only complaint I have about any tablet is fingerprints, I'm a little OCD and I can't deal with the smudges.

XBox saves the day (2)

FishTankX (1539069) | about a year ago | (#46057427)

Looks like for microsoft to preserve profitability it may have to continue to branch out of its core competency, windows. Perhaps it's following in Apples footsteps in a sense, branching away from personal computing to consumer electronics.

Re:XBox saves the day (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057509)

You have to wonder if the eventual goal is to sell MS Office for X-Box to tie into their successful branding strategy. I can't wait for that! MS Word controlled by game controller and/or Kinect. The future of office productivity in your living room!

Re:XBox saves the day (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | about a year ago | (#46057765)

That's the short game strategy.

Long game, they're kinda headed in the same direction as Caldera/SCO. You remember them?

Big companies like IBM are 'hardening' their market position in certain areas, not acquiring. Oracle is doing similar - though acquiring assets, they're stripping them of their value to integrate it into their core product offering/identity products.

PCs have become commodity, yes, and the new boom market is in mobile/platform apps and data. MS is moving that way, but it seems they've not moved from their core competency of marketing - there's a LOT of competition in this market, and they're by no means good at it.

Strategy? (5, Interesting)

nashv (1479253) | about a year ago | (#46057459)

That billion dollar write-off on the Surface tablets doesn't seem so bad now does it...

Re:Strategy? (2)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year ago | (#46057827)

It was only 900 million. Don't be so dramatic, lol.

I TOO CAN HAVE RECORD REVENUE IF !! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057465)

I pay you a dollar for every 90 cents you give me !!

Surface COGS: 935 m
Revenue 850 m

Re:I TOO CAN HAVE RECORD REVENUE IF !! (1)

Zmobie (2478450) | about a year ago | (#46057575)

Considering they had a 6.5 billion dollar net income, I'm sure their executives and shareholders are crying into their money about your one comment that literally accounts for less than 1/24 of their overall revenue streams....

Re:I TOO CAN HAVE RECORD REVENUE IF !! (1)

stymy (1223496) | about a year ago | (#46057845)

They just started that product line. Microsoft looks at the long-term more than other companies. For example, the XBox originally made them lose billions, but now the newer versions are raking in the dough.

Re:I TOO CAN HAVE RECORD REVENUE IF !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057989)

Ten years on. And what if Sony did better? Xbox would be where? Where the MS phone is. Where the MS tablet is. Where the MS OS is. Even where MS Office is. Office? Yes, Office. Cows eventually die, even cash cows. The looming question is, who will buy the remains of MS?

Re:I TOO CAN HAVE RECORD REVENUE IF !! (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | about a year ago | (#46058177)

They just started that product line. Microsoft looks at the long-term more than other companies.

As opposed to, like, Starbucks, or Daimler, or Apple, who, in their obvious obsession with quarterly profits, charge premium profits for every good sold from day one, and thus all quickly went out of business.

Mis-read? (2)

dissy (172727) | about a year ago | (#46057503)

Meanwhile, money made from selling Windows software to computer makers slid by three percent due to continue soft demand by consumers for personal computers

Yes, I too have been both softly demanding and loudly demanding a personal computer OS from Microsoft, yet all they want to push is some tablet OS unsuited for business work on a personal computer.

At least they aren't acting surprised about their choice.

Re:Mis-read? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057809)

hi, you're an idiot. Yes, an idiot. Windows 8 works just fine for work if you can get your head out of your ass long enough to learn how to use it.

Nobody wants Windows 8 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057547)

Nobody wants Windows 8. The Metro UI is crap. The ribbon UI is crap. Microsoft are crap. Bring back program manager!

Re:Nobody wants Windows 8 (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#46057771)

You could always bring back the Windows 7 Start menu by installing Classic Shell into Windows 8.x.

Re:Nobody wants Windows 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057799)

No, Tabworks! Ever used that? Quite a nice replacement for Program Manager (based around tabs instead of MDI, as the name implies). It had quite a nice feature which I wish we saw more of today - when you're dragging-and-dropping something and you realise there's something you need to do before dropping, there's a space where you can temporarily drop what you're dragging and pick it up again later.

Good for them. (2, Insightful)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about a year ago | (#46057559)

Hope they don't announce big profit now and come back a few months later with a big charge for something else. Sort of like Bush would not include war costs in regular budget and always ask for emergency appropriations for a war that had been going on for years.

Re:Good for them. (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057751)

Yeah, blame Bush. It's his fault that Obamacare is failing and unemployment rates (Real rates, not "only people looking for work" rates) are still so high.

Obama? No hiding facts or working around dodgy figures there... nope. Good ole' American President right there. He can't do anything wrong, because if he does you're obviously a racist.

Re:Good for them. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057875)

Calm down, it's an analogy, and it's apt in this case.

Steve (War on Chairs*) Ballmer would be Clinton. Under Ballmer MS is still making money. The GP/OP's fear is that the guy who replaces Ballmer (Clinton) would blow it all.

*Achievement Unlocked! Yet another chair joke

Re:Good for them. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057897)

Well... that escalated quickly.

Seriously though Mr AC, what is your fucking beef? The person you replied to said nothing about Obamacare and nothing about unemployment. He certainly didn't try to blame them on Bush, and he said nothing to support Obama or insult those who criticise him. For all you know GP hates Obama as much as you do. It's like you're replying to a completely different comment in another thread on some other board, or like you're just shouting at the voices in your head.

What he did say is that Bush fiddled the books to hide expenses, and suggested that maybe Microsoft might be trying to pull something similar. It was a reasonable comment to make. Unlike yours, which comes off as the spittle-flecked rantings of a complete loon.

By the way, you're totally a racist for saying bad things about Obama.

Re:Good for them. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057841)

You mean like the Democraps did in 2009? Pass a "one time" $787 Billion stimulus (more than Iraq/Afghanistan cost in 8 years)-- then refuse to pass a budget out of the Senate so CR's can continue most of that "one time" stimulus as a baseline?

Or perhaps you are referring to Obama's QE-Infinity where they simply print $80B per month (devaluing every $ you have in your pocket) until well-- forever?

Noooo (3, Funny)

coolsnowmen (695297) | about a year ago | (#46057603)

The year of the death of the linux desktop :-(

Good to hear (4, Insightful)

StripedCow (776465) | about a year ago | (#46057625)

It's always good to hear that the world's largest software firm has a higher revenue than the world's largest advertisement firm.

Regardless of whether it is MS or not.

Surface in the Enterprise (5, Interesting)

Sir_Eptishous (873977) | about a year ago | (#46057663)

We have recently purchased a Surface to test with some LIMS software we use, which currently runs fine on W7. We were told it wouldn't run on 8. It has been discovered that it does in fact run on 8 and runs fine on our Surface. We are going to to test using Surface tablets running 8.1 in our environment. So far so good.

Are we running this on iPads or Android tablets? No.
Why?
Because the software in question, along with pretty much everything else we use is designed to run on either Windows or Linux.

I could draw a conclusion here that Surface tablets will make in roads into the Enterprise for exactly this reason. Yes, yes, I know there are thousands of iPads in Enterprises right now, with all manner of executive and administrative staffers trying to look important at work with their tablet, while busily updating their FB status. However, I feel that because of MS's entrenched position in the Enterprise the Surface is more of a "work" device than an iPad or Android tablet.

Re:Surface in the Enterprise (4, Interesting)

sandytaru (1158959) | about a year ago | (#46057773)

My husband's school offered him an iPad. He asked them for a Surface instead. After some quick checking with IT, he got his Surface. The IT department was actually happy about it, since they have a Microsoft+Linux server backend and the Surface acts like any other Windows machine when interfaced with the network. So while all the iPad users end up putting in a service call every week because some app isn't working right, my husband (and the two other Surface users that joined him) haven't had any issues at all.

Now, I lost some faith in the Surface when I saw it have a BSOD just after 8.1 rolled out, but it only happened to him once.

Re:Surface in the Enterprise (1)

Sir_Eptishous (873977) | about a year ago | (#46058157)

I have to support Apple devices in an AD environment, and yes it is a PITA. But, with that being said, I don't think total homogeneous technologies in an Enterprise make sense. It is a good thing to mix things up... But I think the Surface Pro is more of a work device versus an iPad or Android tablet.

Pro vs. RT (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#46057813)

We have recently purchased a Surface to test with some LIMS software we use, which currently runs fine on W7. We were told it wouldn't run on 8. It has been discovered that it does in fact run on 8 and runs fine on our Surface.

Windows 7 supports only the Win32 API; Windows RT 8 and Windows RT 8.1 support only the new WinRT API. It is impossible for one program to run on both Windows 7 PCs and Surface RT unless it is written in an interpreted language and runs in an interpreter available for both platforms. By Surface did you mean Surface Pro, which supports both Win32 and WinRT applications?

Re:Pro vs. RT (1)

Sir_Eptishous (873977) | about a year ago | (#46058099)

By Surface did you mean Surface Pro, which supports both Win32 and WinRT applications?

Correct.
My mistake that I realized after posting and I knew I would be caught. Yes, Surface Pro is what I meant.

Captain Kangaroo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057681)

I'd forgotten briefly that in order to be a "real nerd" and post here you have to hate microsoft for no particular reason.

Android phones (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46057749)

All of the royalties made from the Android phones are what made them rich. Lord knows it's not Microsoft phones or tablets.

you know what this means (3, Informative)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year ago | (#46057823)

They would have been able to buy their own country if Windows 8 wasn't such a disaster.

Dubious revenue is more like (2)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year ago | (#46058167)

I find it extremely hard to believe that a company whom has failed on so many fronts can post a "record revenue". Let's face it; Windows Phone, Vista, Metro, Xbox One -- all have been either utter failures or fell seriously short of expected sales. If a company can produce "record revenue" from a year like that, then management has problems bigger than just Ballmer.

Inflation leads to record sums of money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#46058267)

10 bucks was 50 years ago real money, now it's not even enough to tip somebody...

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