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Snowden Joins Daniel Ellsberg On Board of Freedom of the Press Foundation

Soulskill posted about 6 months ago | from the plans-to-leak-everybody's-lunch-orders dept.

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sunbird writes "Edward Snowden is joining the board of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, a nonprofit committed to defending public-interest journalism which exposes law-breaking in government. Co-founder Glenn Greenwald said, 'We began this organization to protect and support those who are being punished for bringing transparency to the world's most powerful factions or otherwise dissent from government policy. Edward Snowden is a perfect example of our group's purpose, as he's being persecuted for his heroic whistleblowing, and it is very fitting that he can now work alongside us in defense of press freedom, accountability, and the public’s right-to-know.' The foundation is presently raising money and awareness for a variety of open-source encryption tools. Please consider donating to my favorite: the LEAP Encryption Access Project."

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44 comments

Interesting... (5, Interesting)

mendax (114116) | about 6 months ago | (#45962267)

I wonder how he will remain on the board once the feds finally get their hands on him. He's a marked man. Daniel Ellsberg avoided going to prison on a technicality, because of the government's gross misconduct and illegal evidence gathering. I don't think Edward Snowden will be so lucky when his rendition is finally carried out.

USA is fast becoming USF (5, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 6 months ago | (#45962283)

I wonder how he will remain on the board once the feds finally get their hands on him

As an American, I can't help but feel so ashamed of the country that I love so much.

The United States of America is fast becoming the United States of Fascists.

Re:USA is fast becoming USF (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45963549)

> The United States of America is fast becoming the United States of Fascists.

Becoming??? That horse left the barn several decades ago.

Re:USA is fast becoming USF (0)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45964973)

As an American, I can't help but feel so ashamed of the country that I love so much.

Yes, so you've said. Repeatedly.

It's a shame there isn't a function for most people to be able to start from the beginning of a user's posting history and read forward. I'd be interested to see if you became "ashamed" since 1998. I'm not sure I would bet on it.

The United States of America is fast becoming the United States of Fascists.

No, not as such. We'll have a pretty good test within the next few years with the coming elections. If the government changes has by election, as it has for hundreds of years, fascism isn't here yet.

I will grant you that the US does have a problem with a cult of personality at the moment.

Re:USA is fast becoming USF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45965879)

If the government changes has by election, as it has for hundreds of years, fascism isn't here yet.

That doesn't help if both sides of the coin are fascist. But you know that already. And yet you pretend like you don't. Who do you think you're fooling, exactly?

Re:USA is fast becoming USF (1)

Larryish (1215510) | about 6 months ago | (#45966247)

To the tune of Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" :

I was born in America
Where I'm often told I'm free

I voted for the piece of shit
Who told that lie to me

I prick my finger next to you
At the all-you-can-eat buffet

I can't afford to move abroad
Trapped in the USA

Re:Interesting... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45962299)

Big fat black nigger women got no class.

Re:Interesting... (4, Insightful)

mendax (114116) | about 6 months ago | (#45962339)

There has never been an occurrence of a variety of human stupidity that Mark Twain has not commented on. One particular quote comes to mind with regard to the anonymous poster above:

"The trouble ain't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.”

Stay inside, fool.

Re:Interesting... (1)

Grog6 (85859) | about 6 months ago | (#45963931)

cold ford hasn't had his coffee yet this morning.

I'm sure he'll be back later with something similar...

Re:Interesting... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45965063)

I would say that the racist has been adequately disparaged by mendax so I have no need to further disparage him. Twain is a nice touch.

Re:Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45964313)

There has never been an occurrence of a variety of human stupidity that Mark Twain has not commented on. One particular quote comes to mind with regard to the anonymous poster above:

"The trouble ain't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.”

Stay inside, fool.

Maybe if we could get them to wear antenna hats [ggpht.com] !

Re:Interesting... (1)

Demonoid-Penguin (1669014) | about 6 months ago | (#45964417)

There has never been an occurrence of a variety of human stupidity that Mark Twain has not commented on. One particular quote comes to mind with regard to the anonymous poster above:

"The trouble ain't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.”

Stay inside, fool.

Maybe if we could get them to wear antenna hats [ggpht.com] !

Just give 'em all free "We hate Snowden/Assange" shirts. In nice bright colours.

That way when they're lined up against the wall they'll be easier to shoot. That'd automatically raise the standards.

Re:Interesting... (4, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | about 6 months ago | (#45962381)

because of the government's gross misconduct and illegal evidence gathering.

So nothing has changed then....

Sooner or later, someone is going to jail, And I wager it won't be Snowden.
We can start with a few Judges that violated their oath of office, and denigrated to constitution to the status of a village ordinance.

WHY? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45963567)

"Sooner or later, someone is going to jail, And I wager it won't be Snowden.
We can start with a few Judges that violated their oath of office, and denigrated to constitution to the status of a village ordinance."

This shit has been going on long before Snowden and his self centered ego trip of thinking he has done "good"? He hasn't released a damn thing that people hadn't already figured out or suspected, International Spying ring [check] Domestic Spying [check]. Why do you think there hasn't been any outrage over this by any country, people suspected it...

Now a few people are outraged by this? The constitution is a contract nothing more nothing less, a piece of paper with signatures. They either keep adding to it, or quietly take away your rights. That of course is even after they're caught..

Re:WHY? (1)

Demonoid-Penguin (1669014) | about 6 months ago | (#45964429)

This shit has been going on long before Snowden and his self centered ego trip of thinking he has done "good"?

Feeling a little cock challenged? Cheer up, there's a new shirt in the mail for you.

Re:Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45964343)

because of the government's gross misconduct and illegal evidence gathering.

So nothing has changed then....

Sooner or later, someone is going to jail, And I wager it won't be Snowden.
We can start with a few Judges that violated their oath of office, and denigrated to constitution to the status of a village ordinance.

I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure it won't be Snowden. This war is not won yet, and although I believe and want to believe that we can fight this, it's absolutely not certain that we will win this.

Re:Interesting... (4, Interesting)

AHuxley (892839) | about 6 months ago | (#45962405)

The whistleblowing aspect is over, the press is now releasing the news at a rate they seem fit after sorting, clearing.
http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm [cryptome.org]
http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-codenames.htm [cryptome.org]
As for Snowden what are the options - freedom in Russia beyond the ~ one year point.
Options:
Find another nations embassy in Russia and stay? Doing a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zsef_Mindszenty [wikipedia.org] for many years?
The US seemed to have hinted at its intent with the EU airspace issue so getting to another country will be interesting.
Try the Russian legal system and get long term papers?
The US needs to show what they will do to any whistleblowing but still seem to want to reduced the optics of any capture.

Re:Interesting... (4, Interesting)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 6 months ago | (#45962615)

Given that the US has demonstrated their willingness to ground even diplomatic flights if they suspect Snowden to be on board, traveling would be risky. It'd need to be done with the backing of the Russian government, and I don't see why they would.

The only options I see are to either hole up in an embassy or hope that Russian officials will be willing to give him residence as a PR thing. Russia and America have long been in a quite antagonistic relationship, even after the cold war ended, so it's possible some influential politicians might want to keep him as a show of independance - a small but very symbolic gesture to show that Russia bows before the demands of no country, not even the mighty US.

Re:Interesting... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45962669)

Grounding an allied/neutral country's flights is one thing. Fucking with a Russian aircraft is a different story.

Captcha: escalation

Re:Interesting... (5, Interesting)

MobSwatter (2884921) | about 6 months ago | (#45963327)

All things considered, doesn't anyone see it ironic that Russia has stood tall for freedom over corruption in the US?

Re:Interesting... (2)

Grog6 (85859) | about 6 months ago | (#45963941)

I do.

I remember when America was the Bastion of Freedom, not some third-world country with ambitions of being the world's Gestapo. :(

Re:Interesting... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45965189)

The NSA has been involved in signals intelligence since the 1950s. The US isn't a "third-world country" and isn't "the world's Gestapo."

Re:Interesting... (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about 6 months ago | (#45965533)

In the world of signals it was Cold. US signals where underfunded in the 1920's and 1930's, a lot of help was sent from the UK in WW2.
Post WW2 the US lost a lot of its new skills again just in time for Korea :)
The USA had no Korean experts, typewriters or related skill sets. The US only had tactical signals and had a huge rush of new staff to hire - many uncleared.
Direction and traffic radio work again had to be re introduced via the UK in the early 1950's.
Now thanks to Snowden we can fill in the 1990's to 2000's history too :)

Re:Interesting... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45966109)

The US managed Purple and SIGABA without the UK.

What would you think if the Grauniad had published a history of Bletchley Park, Enigma cracking, and its methods in 1940? There would be a considerable butcher's bill to pay, wouldn't there? By the 1970s the bill was depreciated to next to nothing. The bill for Snowden's leaks isn't clear yet, but since the leaked information is decades too early in coming it may not be a cheap one. Is there any toll that would make you think that it wasn't a good thing? Or do you think it was worth knowing now regardless of the price?

Re:Interesting... (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about 6 months ago | (#45966463)

SIGABA was weak... The US quickly stepped away from SIGABA around the end of the Typex era talks with the UK.
The fun part of that time is really the US Navy and Army crypto tensions - could they share with the UK.
"Purple" was a diplomatic cryptographic machine, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_(cipher_machine) [wikipedia.org] shows some of the thinking in Japan and why their Navy and Army codes where interesting to the US and UK.

Re:Interesting... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45966853)

SIGABA was weak...

Unless you know something that I don't, SIGABA was never broken in its relatively long service life for the US.

SIGABA (ECM) [cryptomuseum.com]

SIGABA was a US cipher machine based on the electromechanical rotor principle. It was developed in the late 1930s as a joint effort of the US Army and Navy [1]. At the time it was considered a superior cryptomachine, intended to keep high-level communications absolutely secure. It was used throughout WWII and was so reliable that it was used well into the 1950s, when it was replaced by machines like the KL-7. As far as we know, SIGABA was never broken.

Are you being sarcastic or naive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45964931)

Putin is just standing up to the US to not look weak against the evil capitalist, this has nothing to do with Freedom at all.

Re:Interesting... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 6 months ago | (#45965173)

All things considered, doesn't anyone see it ironic that Russia has stood tall for freedom over corruption in the US?

After it has resumed the former Soviet practice of regular air and sea probes by bomber, warship, and submarine, of US and NATO defenses, and brought Russian spying up to Cold War levels, Russia has taken this opportunity to stick a finger in Washington's eye by receiving and shielding someone that stole 1.7 million Top Secret US intelligence documents. It is unclear to what extent there was contact between Russian intelligence and Snowden in Russia, but Snowden's lawyer is in the public council of the FSB, formerly the KGB, and Snowden was in contact with the Russian government before coming to Russia. Snowden stayed at their embassy in Hong Kong, and had his birthday party there. Contrary to reports at the time it was no surprise to Russia that he was coming. You're fooling yourself if you think this is about Russia "standing tall for freedom over corruption." If you believe that you understand little about either the situation or Russia.

Re:Interesting... (0)

Biff Stu (654099) | about 6 months ago | (#45962859)

I agree. Now that he has leaked the biggest revelations yet [farsnews.com] to the Iranians he is in really deep doodoo. Even the space aliens will be after him.

Re:Interesting... (1)

Seumas (6865) | about 6 months ago | (#45963313)

Take a look at the board and tell me you think anyone finds them a real threat to anything.

Re:Interesting... (1)

BlueStrat (756137) | about 6 months ago | (#45964271)

Daniel Ellsberg avoided going to prison on a technicality, because of the government's gross misconduct and illegal evidence gathering.

This is false.

He didn't go to jail because the US judicial branch at the time generally frowned on government infringements on the 1A freedom of the press, despite protestations to the contrary by the Federal government, by impeding the functioning of a free press and essentially turning the press into agents of the State by denying the press the ability to have confidential sources when what those sources are saying is inconvenient for government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_sources [wikipedia.org]

"The protection of sources, sometimes also referred to as the confidentiality of sources or in the U.S. as the reporter's privilege, is a right accorded to journalists under the laws of many countries, as well as under international law. Simply put, it means that the authorities, including the courts, cannot compel a journalist to reveal the identity of an anonymous source for a story. The right is based on a recognition that without a strong guarantee of anonymity, many people would be deterred from coming forward and sharing information of public interests with journalists. As a result, problems such as corruption or crime might go undetected and unchallenged, to the ultimate detriment of society as a whole. In spite of any such legal protections, the pervasive use of traceable electronic communications by journalists and their sources provides governments with a tool to determine the origin of information.[1] In the United States, the federal government legally contends that no such protection exists for journalists."

The extremely political US judicial branch these days? They'll probably rule however it's most politically expedient, COTUS and a free press be damned. Hell, the NSA probably provides all the blackmail the Federal government needs to persuade "stubborn" judges, if the Feds think it's important enough.

That's one of the big problems with sweeping large-scale domestic surveillance; it reduces trust in institutions that are supposed to protect against government infringements of individual rights and provide oversight, since they are all now potential blackmail victims at the whim of government.

Strat

Good Luck With That (4, Interesting)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 6 months ago | (#45962491)

which exposes law-breaking in government.

Yeah, we all know it's rife with illegal crap, but the mainstream media remains silent. They're your biggest enemies. [youtube.com]

One can only hope that the severely slanted aren't able to maintain control as media migrates online. However, being that I have many times witnessed such "news" sites as ABC, removing all counter view points even if not demeaning or trolling from their comment sections -- Including posts that simply link to information proving the article or segment wrong, esp. suspect is the the 20/20 "investigative" segments, which now only serve to further political and corporate interests.

With DRM on the track to inclusion in HTML5, the anti-open-source messages are already appearing -- Ireland, come on now, that's just too blatant even for you. The FBI dropping Law Enforcement and donning the cloak of secrecy in "national security" instead is all more evidence of the world's current anti-openness, and zero-accountability trend. You've got to realize the front you're fighting is on all sides, or you'll be flanked.

Best of luck, but I've been watching this show for decades, I know how it ends. There's always been votes controlled through Gerrymandering [snagfilms.com] and if not then blatant vote counting manipulation [youtube.com] . Over a hundred years the US government has been explicitly creating and condoning illegal government programs, [wikipedia.org] and thus disinformation and lying to the public -- These are the politicians real jobs, to cast the will of the government as good for you... I'm a scientist, where's the proof it's good for me? Where's the experimental evidence for these bills virtues? There is none, it's asinine, but it's not like anyone really cares about goodness or integrity.

The US government serves to "Protect America" -- but they do not consider We The People important, only the international "American" Corporate interests must be preserved. When they say "security" it means socio-economic and political control to maintain the status quo and enrich corporations. 58% of congress are global warming denialists for the same reason there were no WMDs, and for the same reason the FBI and NSA keep such close watch on civil-rights activists, privacy-rights activists, women's rights activists, and all anti-war activist organizations -- and now with PRISM all people.

The government has tasked itself with "protecting" the "security" of "America" (see above definitions), and will craft laws to allow their "legal" continuation of this corrupt practice whether in the best interest of the citizens they farm or not. Jim Crow was a law. What the fuck does "law-abiding" or "law-breaking" have to do with Justice and Integrity? Rosa Parks went to jail for sitting at the front of the bus. Fuck "law-breaking in government" -- That's a wild goose chase, otherwise big corps would have to pay taxes. Prove there's even a legitimate government in place first, then you can try holding it accountable. You're barking up the wrong tree. Expose the injustice in Banking, Wall Street, ISPs, Media, Government Contractors, and other such corporations. Then the fur will really fly. Otherwise you're just pissing into the wind: Impeach one stooge and you get another from the queue. This has all happened before, and it will all happen again. [youtube.com]

Firemen douse the source of the fire, not the flames themselves.

Re:Good Luck With That (0)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 6 months ago | (#45962627)

HTML5's DRM component doesn't actually have any DRM in it. It's just an agreed interface by which propritary DRM schemes may be embedded. It's no different really than putting a DRM-enabled flash object in a webpage, except that there are some agreed-upon calls that allow it to be controled by javascript.

Careful with that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45970631)

"News sites" such as ABC are bad, but they're still about three orders of magnitude better than the ultra-partisan blogs that are, so far, the only "new media" manifestation that threatens to replace them. Given a choice between a corrupt, biased media (i.e. the kind we've always had) and a media that doesn't even pretend to believe in objective reality - I'll take the devil I know, thanks.

And you're absolutely right about the priorities of politicians, but you haven't gone into the why. Politicians, believe it or not, are mostly decent people. They go into politics to do good. The fact that they almost invariably fail is not because they're evil, it's because they get captured by The System.

The System is the way the economy is structured. I, for instance, would like to retire someday. To that end, I have a pension fund that's invested in various parts of various economies. If those all come crashing down, I am well and truly screwed. That situation is true for the great majority of American workers. Ergo, the politicians cannot afford to do anything that *might* cause that to happen - such as pulling the plug on corporate welfare or holding CEOs or banks to account.

There is actually a cure for this, and I've been plugging it for years now: what's usually called "Basic Income", where the government just gives everyone a paycheck for breathing. Then my pension fund could go fuck itself.

Retroshare (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 6 months ago | (#45962635)

Why is this not being promoted more? Encrypted, secure, decentralised, block-resistant IM software. It works. A few minor bugs here and there, it's in need of some refinement, but it's the best tool we have for that niche right now.

tell the truth & manage to not get killed (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45963117)

that's an accomplishment for sure congratulations & may our missing honor & integrity take benefit from your cpurage

Freedom of the Press Foundation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45963459)

Declared a terrorist orginazation in three ... two ... one

Two Wrongs != Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45964179)

What the NSA (along with compliant and complicit 2nd and 3rd parties) ha[s/ve] done was very wrong, though for anyone with the most basic understanding of technology, bureaucracy, and politics it has not been surprising.

What Snowden has done is also wrong. He is a rightly accused traitor. A hero works inside the framework of civilization and the law until he has no other choice then the hero stands by the consequences of his actions knowing he traded his freedom/ life for the common man, Snowden did none of this.

The FPF has lost a supporter in me with this action.

Re:Two Wrongs != Right (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 6 months ago | (#45964419)

The FPF has lost a supporter in me with this action.

Considering you don't even know what a traitor is, I think they won't be too bothered by that.

Re:Two Wrongs != Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45965705)

A traitor is one who breaks his oath to: "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;" He patently decided to do an end run around the Constitution and sought harbour with an enemy state.

Care to show more of your -ignorance- stupidity?

Re:Two Wrongs != Right (1)

misterooga (1172837) | about 6 months ago | (#45965859)

Wanted to rate but decided to comment. (Yes, I know, I shouldn't reply to AC...)

So what happened to others who followed the Constitution?

Not much, I bet.

NSA did nothing wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45964805)

It was the gov't who gave them permission from both administrations. Snowden broke the law, regardless of what he uncovered. Let that man hang.

Bad Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45965397)

Edward Snowden is a government spook.

His mission was to convince the general public and other governments that the NSA has more capabilities than they actually do.

CNN keeps mum when there have been other NSA leaks, and other whistle blowers were mostly silenced. But not Snowden. CNN talked about him non-stop, and he is still free, and now they are even talking about clemancy

JavaScript Required to Donate (1)

terbeaux (2579575) | about 6 months ago | (#45967471)

It seems kind of strange that a site which is collecting donations to fund secure software projects would require the use of JavaScript to donate. http://imgur.com/Ri5PB7r [imgur.com]
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