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Cyanogen Mod Raises $23 Million Funding All Set To Become Major Android Player

samzenpus posted about 10 months ago | from the show-me-the-money dept.

The Almighty Buck 133

sfcrazy writes "The newly formed company has opened the next chapter of its history by bagging $23 million financing from A16Z (Andreessen Horowitz). CyanogenMod was recently incorporated as a company after getting Benchmark Capital and Redpoint Ventures as partners and raising $7 million in funding."

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Cyanogenmod, (1, Interesting)

lukemartinez (2468106) | about 10 months ago | (#45742615)

CyanogenMod, now with advertising.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (4, Insightful)

DavidClarkeHR (2769805) | about 10 months ago | (#45742641)

CyanogenMod, now with advertising.

Not every giant, successful tech company that displaces competition will immediately start advertising.

Take ... uh ...

Re:Cyanogenmod, (5, Funny)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 10 months ago | (#45742765)

It's in all facets of life now. You can't even find a guy with good karma on an online forum who won't leverage it for some cash on the side.

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Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742783)

It's in all facets of life now. You can't even find a guy with good karma on an online forum who won't leverage it for some cash on the side.

-- Wait, you can leverage karma for cash?

Re:Cyanogenmod, (5, Funny)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 10 months ago | (#45742999)

Wait, you can leverage karma for cash?

Sure. You've just gotta come out of the shadows, get a UID, and join the club. You'll have all the details once you reach Level Five Laser Lotus. You didn't think the karma system was just a mutual admiration club, did you?

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Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45744569)

If you think McDonald's tastes good, then you've got bigger problems than lifespan.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (2, Insightful)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 9 months ago | (#45744613)

All food doesn't need to taste 'good.' All walls don't need to be frescoes painted by commissioned artists. Rinse. Repeat.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 10 months ago | (#45742833)

I see what you did there

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743319)

Of course you saw what he did there! You ALWAYS have adverts in your sig!

Re:Cyanogenmod, (2)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 10 months ago | (#45742767)

"Not every giant, successful tech company that displaces competition will immediately start advertising."

I doubt they'll go the Google route, because their very reason for existence -- and why people use it at all -- is to bypass all that Google garbage.

If they just copy Google's business model, why would anybody want CyanogenMod?

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | about 10 months ago | (#45742867)

Because now they're a name, and that's all that matters. Google "Do not be evil". Apple "You'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984"". etc

Re:Cyanogenmod, (2)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 10 months ago | (#45742951)

Meh. I think it takes more than a name.

CyanogenMod is not Google. They're still young, and they built their whole company based on the idea that they're not like Google. It would be pretty unrealistic to just throw that all away, then expect to get anywhere.

Re: Cyanogenmod, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743343)

*Google* their whole company based on the idea that they're not like Google.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (5, Interesting)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about 10 months ago | (#45742787)

They don't necessarily have to make their revenue all from ads.

They can provide a polished, stable version of Android that is in many ways better than the original and provide support to the phone manufacturers (perhaps more cheaply than Google?), directly getting a cut from handset sales.

They could start and manage their own app store and take a cut if app purchases.

By working directly with manufacturers, they can spend less time hacking/reverse engineering stuff in order to get it to work with the hardware and instead focus on making their flavor of Android better and therefore desirable on handsets. Cyanogenmod has always been about being cutting-edge - pioneering many features long before AOSP. And not just 'fun' features but really important stuff like fine-detailed app permissions management (which has been WAY overdue). If they can now have a say in hardware design, I say, hell yes, bring it on. I hope to see cutting-edge badass smartphones with easy root access, high customize-ability/theming, and bleeding edge features.

Lately I've been keeping an eye on the Sailfish project, but this news has refreshed my interest in the future of Android in general. Let's not be too cynical and assume it's all going to be about advertising. And even if there are ads, does anyone really think the ads could be any worse or more intrusive than the current state of Android in general?

Maybe Canonical has spoiled everyone's attitudes toward the idea of monetizing open source. There's certainly a comparison to be made here. I'm not well-versed enough in the behind-the-scenes stuff to compare, but I wonder what the degree of impact Cyanogen has had on the Android world is, compared to Ubuntu's contribution to Linux, and what lessons we can take from the latter and apply to the former?

Re:Cyanogenmod, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743093)

They don't necessarily have to make their revenue all from ads.

They can provide a polished, stable version of Android that is in many ways better than the original and provide support to the phone manufacturers (perhaps more cheaply than Google?), directly getting a cut from handset sales.

They could start and manage their own app store and take a cut if app purchases.

By working directly with manufacturers, they can spend less time hacking/reverse engineering stuff in order to get it to work with the hardware and instead focus on making their flavor of Android better and therefore desirable on handsets. Cyanogenmod has always been about being cutting-edge - pioneering many features long before AOSP. And not just 'fun' features but really important stuff like fine-detailed app permissions management (which has been WAY overdue). If they can now have a say in hardware design, I say, hell yes, bring it on. I hope to see cutting-edge badass smartphones with easy root access, high customize-ability/theming, and bleeding edge features.

Lately I've been keeping an eye on the Sailfish project, but this news has refreshed my interest in the future of Android in general. Let's not be too cynical and assume it's all going to be about advertising. And even if there are ads, does anyone really think the ads could be any worse or more intrusive than the current state of Android in general?

Maybe Canonical has spoiled everyone's attitudes toward the idea of monetizing open source. There's certainly a comparison to be made here. I'm not well-versed enough in the behind-the-scenes stuff to compare, but I wonder what the degree of impact Cyanogen has had on the Android world is, compared to Ubuntu's contribution to Linux, and what lessons we can take from the latter and apply to the former?

BLAH blah blah.

They're just hoping to be bought by google, later, for much MORE money.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (4, Interesting)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 10 months ago | (#45743317)

They don't necessarily have to make their revenue all from ads.

They can provide a polished, stable version of Android that is in many ways better than the original and provide support to the phone manufacturers (perhaps more cheaply than Google?), directly getting a cut from handset sales.

They could start and manage their own app store and take a cut if app purchases.

By working directly with manufacturers, they can spend less time hacking/reverse engineering stuff in order to get it to work with the hardware and instead focus on making their flavor of Android better and therefore desirable on handsets. Cyanogenmod has always been about being cutting-edge - pioneering many features long before AOSP. And not just 'fun' features but really important stuff like fine-detailed app permissions management (which has been WAY overdue). If they can now have a say in hardware design, I say, hell yes, bring it on. I hope to see cutting-edge badass smartphones with easy root access, high customize-ability/theming, and bleeding edge features.

Lately I've been keeping an eye on the Sailfish project, but this news has refreshed my interest in the future of Android in general. Let's not be too cynical and assume it's all going to be about advertising. And even if there are ads, does anyone really think the ads could be any worse or more intrusive than the current state of Android in general?

Maybe Canonical has spoiled everyone's attitudes toward the idea of monetizing open source. There's certainly a comparison to be made here. I'm not well-versed enough in the behind-the-scenes stuff to compare, but I wonder what the degree of impact Cyanogen has had on the Android world is, compared to Ubuntu's contribution to Linux, and what lessons we can take from the latter and apply to the former?

BLAH blah blah.

They're just hoping to be bought by google, later, for much MORE money.

how exactly do you buy a community developed distro?

Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45744115)

its not..

they ditched community to make it a company

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about 10 months ago | (#45744021)

I'd be betting on a big manufacturer buying them instead, such as Samsung, to start their own phone line loosely based on android.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about 10 months ago | (#45743459)

The amazing thing would be if Cyanogen managed to wrest control of Android away from Google. Suddenly there is a fork, and they are running the AOSP2.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743673)

Keep dreaming tinker bell. There's a reason why Google apps and services are so coveted. If there is ever a fork they would lose the right to install Google Apps, thus, decimating their ability to see their OS to anyone of value.

Re: Cyanogenmod, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743833)

Cyanogen mod just adds bugs and bloat to Android, its somewhat better than any manufacturers take on Android but still a long way from vanilla Android.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (4, Interesting)

grcumb (781340) | about 10 months ago | (#45743493)

They don't necessarily have to make their revenue all from ads.

They can provide a polished, stable version of Android that is in many ways better than the original and provide support to the phone manufacturers (perhaps more cheaply than Google?), directly getting a cut from handset sales.

That seems to be the obvious value in this company. Phone makers have demonstrated time and again how badly they manage their own Android distros, and how much they see them as a cost-centre rather than an opportunity to better position themselves in the market.

Given the state of current MBAThink, why wouldn't they want to outsource the heavy lifting of distro management to a company that not only does it well, but does it better than their competitors? If CM play their cards right, they could start a bidding war, or at very least, make sure that their's is a seller's market.

I especially like this idea because it upsets the playing field a little. Cyanogenmod can be ported at low cost to a number of generic platforms, allowing cheap(er) phone makers to gussy up their product without much effort. So to the consumer, there won't be much to choose between an SGS4 and a KungPaoDuk Delightra XXS Happy Screen. (Visually, at least.)

Re:Cyanogenmod, (3, Interesting)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 10 months ago | (#45743541)

They can provide a polished, stable version of Android that is in many ways better than the original and provide support to the phone manufacturers (perhaps more cheaply than Google?), directly getting a cut from handset sales.

I've got an old Droid 3 that I like the hardware on but never did much like the software, which is now obsolete. One dev got 4.2 working except for the camera - if CM got the camera driver from Moto ($) and put out a KitKat build, I'd gladly pay $30-50 for that.

That's not a terrible business model. I'd also pay that kind of money yearly for an audited and updated build on any phone I carry.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | about 9 months ago | (#45744791)

I heartily agree, I have a Galaxy Nexus that became almost useless with my car's handsfree when Google swapped the Bluez bluetooth stack for Broadcom's in 4.2, 4.3 didn't fix the problems and there's still a thread in code.google for the other Nexus phones using KitKat. CM10.1 and 10.2 work perfectly with my car making my phone useful again. I would also pay 30-50 bucks for that(not to mention there's an effort to port 4.4 to the GNex something Google refuses to do[Thanks, Texas Instruments]).

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

jonwil (467024) | about 10 months ago | (#45743803)

The downside for Cyanogenmod is that there are now features they cant support in the mod without their new partners getting upset. And instances where they will have to include features in some part of the OS where they then cant publish the code for it or where they have to restrict it to specific hardware.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45744359)

This. A million times this.

I'd love to see an even more fleshed out window manager and multi-tasking, personally.
Instead of having to write window management support like in Samsungs implementation, straight up being able to force any app windowed would be glorious.
What it mainly needs is a compatibility layer that will iron out the apps that use esoteric methods for input control and only send it if the app is focused so there'd be no problems running 2 or more together.
The thought of a good tiling window manager just made my brain foam.

The one biggest problem, however, is apps that have inflexible UIs. My solution is to just delete them and never look back because terrible devs.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about 9 months ago | (#45744509)

Most of the free apps I use contain adds. I have devices running stock carrier versions and various ROMs including cyanogenmod. One of the absolute worst is the weather channel app.

Oftentimes there are deceiving ads for pure shitware in that app. Ads that look like legitimate errors with messages such as "Critical Android Error" "Click to repair". This is a mainstream app, by a supposedly reputable company, and it is feeding me malware ads. Why there is not some sort of vetting service for ads across all devices I do not know. So many companies seem too willing to accept a few pennies for fucking their customers. I do not mind some unobtrusive and real ads, but feed me malware whose sole purpose is to fuck naive users over and I will hate you for life.

I deal daily with people who simply do not know how they got 5 toolbars and 3 browser hijackers installed on their devices. Each one slowly reducing their security, injecting ads into search results, until finally they click on something really bad like a cryptolocker or FBI virus installer.

I do not know if the real shame is that there are companies that willingly feed this market, and accept its money, or that our government would rather spend billions tracking phone calls then preventing its citizens from getting assraped by con artists.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45744887)

If they don't get better about providing documentation for their stuff, the only people willing to use any of their products are the developers that are already using their products.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742971)

Microsoft.

Are the Android OEMs banned from shipping CM? (2, Interesting)

mystikkman (1487801) | about 10 months ago | (#45743035)

I remember when Google threatened Acer with losing the Play Store and all Google app to stop Aliyun, claiming that the secret rules of the "Open" Handset Alliance prevented Acer from shipping Android forks.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/3 [arstechnica.com]

Anyone know if the same rules prohibit all the major OEMs from shipping CM or Jolla(which has Android app support via a third party Dalvik implementation) phones?

The major OEMs include Acer, Asus, Dell, Foxconn, Fujitsu, HTC, Huawei, Kyocera, Lenovo, LG, Motorola, NEC, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, Toshiba, and ZTE.

Re:Are the Android OEMs banned from shipping CM? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743599)

But how does Amazon then ship android-based tablets?

Re: Are the Android OEMs banned from shipping CM? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743841)

They do not have access to the google APIs and stuff. They pretty much have to reimplement many things that google makes available to compliant companies. Location services is one that I remember specifically. There was a good article a few weeks ago regarding how everytime google put something on the play store it meant they were close sourcing that app and abondaning the AOSP counterpart.

Re:Are the Android OEMs banned from shipping CM? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743693)

So you couldn't spare the 2 minutes to do a Google search? You just decided to talk out of your ass instead? When you join the OHA you agree not to participate in creating an incompatible version of Android. It kind of contradicts what the OHA stands for so it was stupid of Acer to even attempt to do so. CM is fully Android CTS compliant otherwise they would never be granted the ability to install Google Apps and Services.

Re:Are the Android OEMs banned from shipping CM? (1)

mystikkman (1487801) | about 9 months ago | (#45744933)

They don't have the ability to install Gapps and Services. People download them from other sites that are committing copyright infringement and which can be taken down by Google.
http://phandroid.com/2009/09/25/cyanogen-gets-cd-from-google/ [phandroid.com]

Re:Cyanogenmod, (2)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#45743383)

Red Hat? They seem to make their money on support. I can see manufacturers paying Cyanogen to support their devices and keep them up to date.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 9 months ago | (#45744483)

I can see manufacturers paying Cyanogen to support their devices and keep them up to date.

That's a good joke. Keeping a phone up to date means being unable to upsell the newest model with the newest OS.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

S.O.B. (136083) | about 9 months ago | (#45744769)

Typical MBA-speak.

If I'm forced to buy a new device because a manufacturer can't/won't keep the OS up to date what makes you think I won't purchase from a better manufacturer next time.

You don't cultivate brand loyalty by screwing over your customers. At least not in the Android world where there's competition.

Re:Cyanogenmod, (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 9 months ago | (#45744861)

Typical MBA-speak.

Duh? That was sort of my entire point...

If I'm forced to buy a new device because a manufacturer can't/won't keep the OS up to date what makes you think I won't purchase from a better manufacturer next time.

Because all of the major Android manufacturers are pretty much the same in this respect?

You don't cultivate brand loyalty by screwing over your customers. At least not in the Android world where there's competition.

So outside of a few niche brands, which of the major Android manufacturers don't have the same issues of abandoning phone updates?

Sold down the river... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742629)

I can't wait to see the advertising embedded in the O/S...

Re:Sold down the river... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743697)

Why do Microsoft shills think Android is bombarded with ads? I realize you congregate in a cesspool known as Windows, but you should really try and use the platform before displaying your ignorance. Speaking of cesspools, have you seen the windows phone store lately? It's really one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.

Re:Sold down the river... (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about 10 months ago | (#45744027)

Because they are. One of the reasons for cyanogenmod's existence is to cut down on the "ad bombardment" through reduction of data collection and implementing privacy control and limited ad blocking.

What about contributers? (4, Interesting)

CryptoJones (565561) | about 10 months ago | (#45742657)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

Re:What about contributers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742719)

greed

Re:What about contributers? (1)

jrumney (197329) | about 10 months ago | (#45742777)

They get a full time job contributing to the code base. That's usually how open source going to a "for-profit" (which is usually non-profit - maybe "funded" is a better word) model works.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 10 months ago | (#45742795)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

Why not? Open source has nothing to do with software cost and they can't just create a closed source derivative. That said I'm not sure what their monetization plan is, but maybe that was your point.

Re:What about contributers? (2)

exomondo (1725132) | about 10 months ago | (#45742869)

hrm...actually it seems that's perhaps what they are planning to do, by re-licensing GPL components. Interesting Google+ post [google.com] from the developer of Focal about Cyanogen Inc.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

wolrahnaes (632574) | about 10 months ago | (#45743539)

hrm...actually it seems that's perhaps what they are planning to do, by re-licensing GPL components. Interesting Google+ post [google.com] from the developer of Focal about Cyanogen Inc.

And to do so they need to get the permission of the contributors, because copyright still applies and that's how copyleft licenses work. Thus the answer to "what about the contributors?" is "whatever the contributors agreed to."

If they contributed code under an open source license that allows relicensing like BSD, that was their choice and it means that either they implicitly approved from day one or didn't bother to understand the license they chose and screwed themselves.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#45742859)

anyone who manages to get someone else to pay him is the one making money for it.

if they contributed under the rules, they might not get anything. that's the rules they contributed under. of course they can make a demand to get money or else they'll stop contributing. if they're a good enough contributor they'll get money then.

now.. open-source and for-profit are not mutually exclusive at all(heck, see linux kernel for a good example).

basically you can still stay open source while being "for profit". of course now they are not yet making actually profit as far as I know, so it's more like "how can one find someone to pay him to work on an open source project?" and this model is one answer among many.

Re:What about contributers? (2)

turbidostato (878842) | about 10 months ago | (#45742903)

"What do people that have contributed to the code base get?"

Whatever they negotiated whenever they engaged their contracts.

Re:What about contributers? (4, Interesting)

thisisauniqueid (825395) | about 10 months ago | (#45742973)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

They get nada. I implemented one of the features that caused CM to explode in popularity very early on, and cyanogen did very well out of donations from it, but I never saw a cent of it. I gently raised the issue one day, and he made it pretty clear that he had no intention of divvying up the wealth. Granted, he has put a heckofalot more time total into hacking on CM than I have, but actually, I would have spent a lot more time hacking on it if it weren't for that experience. That was the last code I wrote for CM.

Re:What about contributers? (4, Insightful)

thisisauniqueid (825395) | about 10 months ago | (#45742983)

PS granted, Steve is a very good hacker and a generally all-around good guy, the only thing I'm pointing out is that, at least at that point, he wasn't about the Utopian ideal of sharing around the wealth with the commoners that work in the fields. But maybe not being a communist is a good thing, or he may not have landed the most recent round of funding.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

Pigeon451 (958201) | about 9 months ago | (#45744645)

I thought people generally contributed to open source to help everyone out and get a better product, not to share potential revenue. Cyanogenmod is open source and must remain so. Now that the maintainers have raised funding to really get Cyanogenmod into the mainstream, you're backing off? Sounds a bit backwards to me. If you really want some cash, maybe see if you can get hired by them...

Re:What about contributers? (1)

JanneM (7445) | about 10 months ago | (#45743085)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

With open source you let people use your code, and they let others - including you - use their code in turn. That's the payment, if you will. If you contributed to CM, then the availability of the rest of the CM codebase under a compatible license is what you get.

As for profits - nothing stops you from taking the rest of the CM code base and trying to make it a business, in the same way the CM devels are doing now. And if you do, you won't have to pay the CM developers (or the kernel devels, or user-space tool developers and so on) any more than they have to pay you.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45743931)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

You, too, can download the sources and fork CM. Have at!

Re:What about contributers? (1)

JanneM (7445) | about 9 months ago | (#45744837)

You, too, can download the sources and fork CM. Have at!

Why? I'm not the one who has a problem with people making money off of it. And I certainly wouldn't want to take on the enormous workload that a business takes. I have a day job, and don't need a second one.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 10 months ago | (#45743403)

What do people that have contributed to the code base get? Who is getting money for this? I don't understand how you can go from an opensource project to a for-profit project.

Open-Source and For-Profit are not mutually exclusive. See every commercial Linux project currently on the market. Plenty have contributors, and plenty have managers who make money from it.

If you're contributing to open-source with the expectation of getting paid then you're in for a rude surprise.

Re:What about contributers? (1)

Eunuchswear (210685) | about 10 months ago | (#45744023)

CDDB

Been there, seen that.

All The best! (0)

monzie (729782) | about 10 months ago | (#45742681)

I installed cyanogenmod on my Samsung Galaxy S3 [google.com] and I've been pleasantly surprised by the changes (go thorough the screenshots that I've posted - they are all of my phone running CM 10.2) . The phone performs better in every way ( my only gripe is that HDR mode is missing from the camera )
The installation might be a bit tricky ( since Google removed CynaogenMod installer from the Play Store [cyanogenmod.org] ) . I downloaded the installer from the CM Site [cyanogenmod.org] , ran the app, followed the instructions and then it installed CM 10.2 ( Android 4.3 ) on my GS3.
I hope with additional funding, CM can come pre-loaded on more devices - a lot of Android devices are being held back by their software. ( cartoonish TouchWiz and LG's even-more-cartoony skins are at the forefront here ). Not only is it aesthetically pleasing, it is more secure, gives more choices to the user and generally makes your phone a better phone.
I hope CM gets more funding and does a stellar job - there is not reason it shouldn't - CM team have already been doing a stellar job :)

Re: All The best! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742693)

slashvertising at its best

Re:All The best! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742741)

Oh come on! Quit with the slashvertizing. You can't be that desperate, you just raised $23 million.

Oh, great. (5, Insightful)

geminidomino (614729) | about 10 months ago | (#45742683)

So either CM goes to shit, full of advertising and scumware, like pretty much every other commercial OS, or they don't, founder, and fade away.

Either way, it was nice while it lasted, I suppose.

Re:Oh, great. (1)

jbeaupre (752124) | about 10 months ago | (#45742937)

I'm hoping they become a third party software and support house for phone manufacturers. Obviously the manufactures don't want to be bothered keeping software updated, but might be willing to offload the work to CM. CM then gets a lump sum to provide OS and updates for x number of years and the manufacturers get to look like heroes to their customers.

Alternately, they become the equivalent to after-market car parts source. For a low cost, you get the replacement parts/software you need soup up your stock car/hardware.

hoping. I said hoping.

Re:Oh, great. (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | about 10 months ago | (#45744299)

Unlikely, as that would mean sharing hardware specs and drivers, which isn't something hardware companies like to do, ever.

Re:Oh, great. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743049)

This happened many months ago when the lead developer sold out, updates became slow, then stopped supporting major but older devices. This has been coming for a while, anyone could see it. Money is as money does. Affluenza indeed.

It's so stupid. This is exactly what I said would happen when jackass sold out yet everyone said I was crazy... bunch of morons

Re:Oh, great. (1)

Pigeon451 (958201) | about 9 months ago | (#45744615)

Google has full control over android. ALL purchases and a lot of activity is "logged" by Google. You don't think a more transparent OS would be beneficial to the community? The OS would have to remain open source also. Look at what canonical has done for Linux in the past 10 years...

git (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742685)

Just fork it

Re:git (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742763)

The development resources needed to maintain it would be enormous.

OpenBSD + Truecrypt +Rip Anywhere Mp3 player (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742697)

give me an mp3 player which has the following features:

1. OpenBSD
2. TrueCrypt - choice of encrypting all of device with 1st run and in settings
3. Rip from any device - an extension to the device (like the front part of ST:TNG ship's dish which separates for example) which allows CDs to be inserted and ripped on the fly without a computer connection, and the ability to plug into, scan for, and rip any audio files - all with the option to convert them to a format of your choosing

Re:OpenBSD + Truecrypt +Rip Anywhere Mp3 player (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742921)

Make it yourself

Enterprise edition? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742711)

I love their mods, but the one thing that held me back years ago was the lack of umm... credibility. But for my higher-ups, it's an issue of liability/ accountability/ warranty.

But these days, I'd just get a Nexus - go straight to the Android source.

Mediatek - the new dominating chipset... (1)

GrpA (691294) | about 10 months ago | (#45742721)

This is why a lot of us are buying the Faea F2S already - it's going native Cyanogenmod and fully open-source with factory assistance, now that Cyanogenmod and Faea have teamed up and released the F2S source code.

Given that something like the F2S only costs around $250 and has pretty much every feature that the current bleeding-edge phones have, it's going to be interesting to see how this affects the other phones on the market.

Mind you, emphasis on the bleeding there. It really is at the edge of technological development - and isn't the sort of phone you buy if you don't enjoy tinkering, frequent reboots and weekly flashing the firmware :)

GrpA

Re:Mediatek - the new dominating chipset... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742797)

You had me. I looked at the specs and then............... blah.

Basically quadband GSM. Ok I can place a call most everywhere for the next couple of years (if I'm lucky). Networks are dismantling 2G GSM in all but the most remote of areas, where it's long reach is a good tradeoff for its crap spectral efficiency...

But the. 3G GSM (UMTS/WCDMA). 1 Band listed, 2100. Today, that's not even good enough for europe, nevermind the US where it means you have a 2G GSM phone that is going to stop working with TMO and ATT start to tear down 2G GSM.

And in Europe (and asia, and everywhere else that supports 2100 - which isn't actually everywhere), you'll see that 2100 limits your options since some carriers don't even operate on that band.

Basically, anything less than pentaband WCDMA is crap in this day and age.

Re:Mediatek - the new dominating chipset... (1)

GrpA (691294) | about 10 months ago | (#45743137)

LoL! I did say bleeding edge with emphasis on the bleeding. And the older models supported multi-band 3G as well. This is the result of moving to a modem chipset for that model that only supports 2100 and it's generally considered a poor move. ( Same circuit board as the cheaper F2 model but a different modem chip ). It also has problems in 3G, but for those who can use it, we're hopeful that moving to Cyanogenmod will get the problems out of it. In the mean time, check out their forum if you want details of the problems their users are getting.

But overall, it's still a pretty positive move and will be the first Mediatek 6589T chipset with native Cyanogenmod. Only a fool would rush in at the moment, but there's no shortage of us fools on their support forum. :)

GrpA

Re:Mediatek - the new dominating chipset... (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 10 months ago | (#45743563)

You had me. I looked at the specs and then............... blah.

Yeah, I'd love to support the underdog manufacturer, but I live in the 50% of the country (geo. not pop.) where only Verizon has reasonable coverage.

I know, Qualcomm is the evil, but being able to make calls is worth something.

Re:Mediatek - the new dominating chipset... (0)

Eunuchswear (210685) | about 10 months ago | (#45744061)

Mind you, emphasis on the bleeding there. It really is at the edge of technological development - and isn't the sort of phone you buy if you don't enjoy tinkering, frequent reboots and weekly flashing the firmware :)

Android is a joke.

"flashing the firmware".

WTF.

Don't they have a package manager? What's wrong with apt-get update/apt-get upgrade (or similar incantations for yum).

$23 Million makes you a major player? (1)

John Stock (3421943) | about 10 months ago | (#45742737)

In this day and age isn't that a drop in the ocean, especially when some competitors have up to 3 order of magnitude more cash?

Re:$23 Million makes you a major player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742879)

Cyanogenmod has 23M in cash but make up for it in users. Microsoft, for instance, is the opposite - they have the cash but no users.

then, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743073)

how did they get the cash?

why, where do you think? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743747)

Royalties from Android of course.

Re:$23 Million makes you a major player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743151)

Actually Microsoft's Windows Phone (which these days is closer to iOS than iOS is to Android) has a lot more users than CyanogenMod. That said the 80% market share of Android means the potential for Cyanogen is huge.

$23M USD is all it takes (1)

turkeydance (1266624) | about 10 months ago | (#45742771)

to be a MAJOR player? Cano got $240M and the Yankees didn't want him.

I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (-1)

Trax3001BBS (2368736) | about 10 months ago | (#45742825)

I have a rooted Motorola Xoom (Googles own), for the longest time I would bypass the Gmail log-in to go
to the settings and block a message to Cyanogenmod that the ROM had been installed.

As time passed I figured they deserved to know it was being used and by what system, so would
set it up correctly the first time through then disable the Cyanogenmod status checks.

Twas the 9-26-13cm-10.1-20130922-NIGHTLY-wingray update. There's a pattern or sequence I go through
when I install a new Rom the first is to sign in to Google, The 9-26-13 social engineered my Gmail account from me.

The first thing differed in you were to log into Cyanogenmod, I kept using my gmail address until I gave it a moments
thought. Logged into Cyanogenmod then continued into setting up the ROM, I've no reason to of logged into Cyanogenmod.
The signing into Cyanogenmod wasn't necessary to install the ROM but I didn't know at the time, you can/could just skip past that part.

As for my the Gmail account it's only used with my Xoom, with an identity from http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ [fakenamegenerator.com] so no big deal.

But that signing into Cyanogenmod, was a sign things had changed, so back tracked a version and am staying there.

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (4, Informative)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about 10 months ago | (#45742897)

If I'm reading this correctly - you stopped trusting Cyanogenmod because you apparently accidentally tried to use your Gmail credentials to log at the Cyanogenmod account login prompt? That's like accidentally putting in your Gmail login info at the Facebook login screen. Why would that make you trust CM less?

For anyone who's interested, here's a rundown on the Cyanogenmod account stuff:

http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-account [cyanogenmod.org]

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (2)

rueger (210566) | about 10 months ago | (#45742929)

If I'm reading this correctly

You're doing better than me - I read that three times and still have no clue what he's saying. And yes, I've installed CM a few times on various phones.

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (1)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about 10 months ago | (#45742949)

Yeah, that's pretty much just my best guess...

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (1)

Trax3001BBS (2368736) | about 10 months ago | (#45742987)

If I'm reading this correctly

You're doing better than me - I read that three times and still have no clue what he's saying. And yes, I've installed CM a few times on various phones.

My bad, my grammar gets heck, yet try hard to make it presentable, then leave out the point, I guess figuring it's a given.

I block tracking, I've been at it so long it's second nature, the link given as a replay states "* We have no interest in selling your data", well I keep that to myself.
or try to.

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743313)

Read the post above in the voice of Frank Reynolds, from It's Always Sunny. It makes more sense that way.

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45743937)

All I got out of it is that he was disturbed by CM asking him to use a CM account, with a big fat "Skip" on the screen so you don't have to. Then he says he didn't know you could do that at the time. I presume it's because he can't read, because Skip means skip.

Re:I quit trusting Cyanogenmod 9-26-13 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45744713)

From what I gathered it's more so that there even is a "Cyanogenmod Account" system in place. I've installed CM on multiple devices (daing back to my Droid Eris) and only fairly recently had this happen to me, I gotta say it makes me a bit skeptical about CM. The quality of the builds has been getting worse, which I attributed to just the devs not doing that well porting to whatever device I had moved to. Some features seemed to go missing, which I had no explanation for. Then I tried AOKP, and (aside from their unicorn fetish) it looks to me like that is basically everything CM should be doing but isn't. CM is trying to compete with Sense and TouchWiz but with much less bloated theming, this is not what I want.

OpenBSD + Truecrypt + Rip Anywhere Mp3 player (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45742909)

OpenBSD + Truecrypt + Rip Anywhere Mp3 player

#

Give me an mp3 player which has the following features:

1. OpenBSD
2. TrueCrypt - choice of encrypting all of device with 1st run and in settings
3. Rip from any device - an extension to the device (like the front part of ST:TNG ship's dish which separates for example) which allows CDs to be inserted and ripped on the fly without a computer connection, and the ability to plug into any electronic device which has the ability to contain audio files, scan for, and rip any audio files - all with the option to convert them to a format of your choosing

Will it Update? (1)

rueger (210566) | about 10 months ago | (#45742955)

Of late I've been thinking that Android is probably the biggest security nightmare around.

Not because there's anything intrinsicly wrong with Android itself, but because (my guess) at least 50% of all Android phones will never see an update of any sort.

Regardless of how secure your device may have been out of the box, the first time that there's a security weakness you have to trust that a) Google will fix it in Android or b) The manufacturer will fix it in their modified version of Android, or c) The wireless carrier will fix it in their even more modified version of the manufacturer's modified version of Android.

Right now I'm running with a six month old Samsung phone. Running ICS! I am certain it will never get JB, much less KitKat, and I'm certain that it will never see any kind of security fixes. I think this is true for at least half of all phones out there today.

These are small computers used for social networking, banking, and all manner of highly important tasks. Tasks that involve highly personal information. How long will it be before we see a massive disaster when someone figures out how to game all of the ICS and older Android phones? Or the hundreds ir thousands of oddball Chinese variants over there?

Re:Will it Update? (2)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about 10 months ago | (#45743063)

Heh. Gotta ask... have you looked into putting CM on it? Because I'd wager that 80% of people that use Cyanogen are those who can't wait for official updates.

Re:Will it Update? (1)

rueger (210566) | about 10 months ago | (#45743569)

Problem is that probably 60% of phones don't have a CM version available.

Re:Will it Update? (1)

TClevenger (252206) | about 10 months ago | (#45743511)

The iPhone 3GS got its last update six months after they discontinued selling the phone. I don't see a lot of support from any smartphone manufacturers.

Re:Will it Update? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | about 9 months ago | (#45744789)

There are nightly updates, http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/ [bbqdroid.org]
Also, reading your post was painful.

Article Summary (0)

Goody (23843) | about 10 months ago | (#45743031)

Someone with $23M just gave their money to some open source circle-jerk that has no chance of making any money.

And what of the hidden strings attached?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45743379)

Many, probably most funding companies find a company with valuable assets. They fund with the intention of bankrupting and acquiring the assets in bankruptcy court. The easiest way to do this is to short the stock thought there are tricks to be played by buying up debt and demanding repayment, lawsuits, and other dirty tricks.
Funding corps have one mission, making money, not giving the customer a great OS; easy money is stripping a company of assets and quickly selling them, think Bain capitol.
Taking payout in appreciated stock or interest over time is for chumps.

A little scared but not much (3, Interesting)

WaffleMonster (969671) | about 10 months ago | (#45743675)

Here is the deal as I see it yes I'm worried all of this money will erode the point of cynaogenmod (e.g. selling-out) yet when you look at it most of the value of cyanogen is bottled up in their amazing build platform which is open source and actively used by other competing mods. If cyanogen gets too far off the rails or is perceived as such it will be forked and that will be that.

Bad News (2)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about 9 months ago | (#45744649)

Now that they've decided to become 'kept women' by investor money, forget about them being a continued source of freedom, rapidity, or actual innovation. Selling out to the 'man' means they will end up being just another awful corporatized Android skin chock-full of shovelware that can never be removed. Yay, greed.
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