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Jono Bacon Talks About Ubuntu Phone Progress (Video)

Roblimo posted about a year ago | from the my-phone-is-smarter-than-yours dept.

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Timothy Lord caught up with Ubuntu's Jono Bacon at OSCON and got a nice update on the state of the Ubuntu Phone, which Canonical first announced in January, 2013. Tim interviewed Jono about it on camera at CES in February. Look at the "Related Stories" attached to this intro and you'll see a bunch more Ubuntu phone stories. DISCLOSURE: At least two Slashdot editors currently run Ubuntu or Kubuntu, so we have at least a mild pro-Ubuntu bias. Bias or no, It's interesting to watch the Ubuntu phone development process, even as those who are satisfied with Android phone or iPhones, ask, "Why?" We could ask the same about the Firefox OS Phone, too. Maybe the most realistic answer in both cases is, "Because we could." But who knows? These new phone operating systems might turn out to be more useful than Android or iOS. We'll see.

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Years after the Debian phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44438943)

An Ubuntu phone isn't groundbreaking considering the Nokia N900 phone has been running on Debian for years (with an alternative UI).

Re:Years after the Debian phone... (2)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44439167)

Nothing about it is groundbreaking. Everything about it is either evolutionary spec bumps and cobbling together features from prior phones. Docking a phone and having it change GUIs or change to a desktop OS is not a Canonical innovation despite all their back patting.

Re:Years after the Debian phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439621)

That's great. I was aware that I can plug my current phone into a TV. I didn't know that they had full pc desktop apps for it. I'm off to Google Play to go get them.

Re:Years after the Debian phone... (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44444071)

That's great. I was aware that I can plug my current phone into a TV. I didn't know that they had full pc desktop apps for it. I'm off to Google Play to go get them

you're probably a ubuntdroid being sarcastic, but yeah, full debian was there(android app market) almost two years ago or so..

Re:Years after the Debian phone... (1)

dos1 (2950945) | about a year ago | (#44439215)

...and Openmoko phones (and recently OpenPhoenux), which can run OpenEmbedded, Debian, Slackware, OpenWrt, Android and many many more. Some of those distros are even usable as a phone. Heck, you can even use Emacs as phone interface!

Re:Years after the Debian phone... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439715)

Heck, you can even use Emacs as phone interface!

But what my phone really needs is a good text editor.

*ducks*

Re: Years after the Debian phone... (2)

Miamicanes (730264) | about a year ago | (#44440899)

The difference is, a Debian phone would probably be able to save camera images in every meaningful format to have existed since 1980 *EXCEPT* Jpeg unless you rebuilt the whole thing from scratch for some *unfathomably* stupid & pedantic reason (install ImageMagick under Debian sometime, then go through hours or days of pain getting Jpeg support to work, and you'll know what I'm talking about).

Re: Years after the Debian phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44442239)

Basic multimedia formats work out-of-the-box in Debian 7. It really isn't an issue anymore.

Some nerds don't have sufficient bandwidth... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44438959)

So let's get some transcripts!

Re:Some nerds don't have sufficient bandwidth... (1)

Arkh89 (2870391) | about a year ago | (#44439057)

And a WebM/MP4/Downloadable material too, please...

Introducing the new SlashPhone! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439023)

Get hourly updates featuring
-Vague laws misinterpreted by engineers to be threats to privacy/civil liberties
-The latest release of every obscure Linux distro and its shortcomings compared to 10 other distros
-Factually spurious articles about the death of the IT industry
-Philosophical flame wars about the validity of alternative energy/electric cars
-Mental masturbation regarding drones/macs/climate change
-Hypothetical discussions of Rasberry Pi created by Arduino driven 3-D printers purchased with BitCoins
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*Unicode support included in a future update

Re:Introducing the new SlashPhone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439119)

Vague laws misinterpreted

If the law is vague, then I'd say any interpretation that fits is correct.

Did you know? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439055)

"Ubuntu" is an anagram for "Nub Butt".

Re:Did you know? (1)

hendrikboom (1001110) | about a year ago | (#44442361)

No, I didn't. And after counting the letters, I realize that I still don't know that.

How shocking!! (3, Funny)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44439089)

DISCLOSURE: At least two Slashdot editors currently run Ubuntu or Kubuntu,

How shocking! You guys are total rebels!

Re:How shocking!! (1)

ogar572 (531320) | about a year ago | (#44439375)

No wonder every Canonical press release is front page on Slashdot. Ubuntu fanboys are almost as bad as Apple fanboys.

Re:How shocking!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439423)

Actually Ubuntu fanboys are worse. Apple actually delivers. Ubuntu is, at best, a YMMV situation and at worse it's a trainwreck with hollow promises. That's fine in and of itself but it's the endless cawwing of fanbois claiming that it's the next coming of Christ that burns me so bad.

where'd all the gentoo trolls go? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44440269)

why no kickstarter for gentooPhone?!
I need to be able to emerge -atv lphone --USE 3G 802.11 KDE

Re:where'd all the gentoo trolls go? (1)

dos1 (2950945) | about a year ago | (#44440339)

I think there was Gentoo for Openmoko Neo Freerunner at some point. Never tried it though.

open firmware or its pointless (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439127)

i really dont feel i need to elaborate on this anymore.

Crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439217)

I've tried ubuntu on my nexus 4 twice now and its complete shit .. it locked up and froze on me within 4 minutes .. CM10 was put back onto it within 5

Why (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44439277)

Great! The sound worked for the ad, but not the actual video :(

Re:Why (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44439321)

Isn't the ad the only important part to Dice?

Baiting readers (4, Funny)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44439313)

That headline has to be one of the starkest attempts on Slashdot to bait potential readers for a story that I've seen for a very long time. Look at that headline! Linux and Bacon!! Why it's enough to .... mmmm ... bacon. Excuse me....

Desktop Replacement? (1)

Miros (734652) | about a year ago | (#44439347)

It seems to me like the real purpose of a device like the edge is to replace your desktop hardware. Is that really possible yet?

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44439385)

If all you do is web browsing, sure.

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

Miros (734652) | about a year ago | (#44439587)

Sure but this is supposed to be targeted at power users (the whole F1 metaphor). How do the specs of the Edge compare to your current or even last primary workstation?

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44439613)

Even a dual-core Atom can best a Krait or a Cortex-A15. An i3 totally embarrasses them.

ASICs can do the trick (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about a year ago | (#44441943)

Most of the time probably. But ARM SoCs have an advantage over even an i3 that tries to brute force every operation. ARM SoCs have special chips to do certain tasks (ASICs). So I wouldn't be too surprised if a high-end smartphone can actually encode certain videos faster than an ATOM. I know, for one thing, that my dual-core off-brand China tablet can play h264 videos smoother than my ATOM-based "HTPC".

Re:ASICs can do the trick (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#44442115)

i3s since Sandy Bridge have had QuickSync Video which does both encoding and decoding. Welcome to 2.5 years ago.

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year ago | (#44440867)

My laptop is a work-supplied core i7. The phone has better battery life.

My home desktop is a dumpster-dived 2004 era P4 3GHz, adequate for most tasks. A modern phone's internal storage would better a 4200rpm drive and its GPU would spank 9yo intel graphics and decode video in hardware.

So the answer is, on raw computing stick with Intel/AMD. For everything else, the day is fast approaching. But how does docking work? Micro-USB is hardly convenient if, heaven forbid, you want to use the device as a phone (sans headset) or leave it in your pocket for bathroom/smoking/coffee/lunch breaks throughout the day or meetings. Perhaps it's the era of thin clients where the computing power is now one's smartphone over wifi.

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#44439393)

Yes, I have used machines weaker than my current phone in the past. I have tried it today and again it is reasonable as long as you move the heavy lifting to another machine. 90% of the time my laptop only shows webpages and xterms. My phone can handle that job just fine.

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

Miros (734652) | about a year ago | (#44439611)

Fair enough. I would buy the argument that it will be 'soon.'

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about a year ago | (#44442033)

I'm sure this phone can be a desktop replacement for computers older than, say, five years. So if you happen to be jumping from Windows XP, this should meet the criteria of desktop replacement. The only problem with high-end Android phones as a desktop replacement is the touch-based input system. Now if Canonical has really figured out how to make the Gimp, LibreOffice, maybe even Steam run smoothly on ARM hardware then UbuPhone will be as good a desktop replacement as any mainstream Linux distribution. Of course if you're a hardcore gamer, nothing short of an i7 running Win 7 would fit your definition of a desktop computer.

Re:Desktop Replacement? (1)

sethotterstad (2947867) | about a year ago | (#44449569)

Of course it is possible. 2.4ghz processor, 4gb ram, and 128gb hard drive. Those are laptop specs.

60 second commercial? (1)

iamthetru7h (782302) | about a year ago | (#44439629)

Somebody should have listed that there was a minute long advertisement before you even get to SEE the interview. Closed it, sorry. Not wasting time on that.

Re:60 second commercial? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44441497)

You're not using a tabbed browser? If you were, you could just browsed elsewhere while the commercial was playing then returned once it was finished. Radical procedure, I know, but it works... fucking noob.

Problem is.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year ago | (#44439779)

the MOST IMPORTANT PART is not what they are working on.

It needs to be a phone and phone calls need to be the absolute most reliable part of the phone. The last tow attempts at this Open Source phone crap has yielded phones that barely work as phones.

I dont want a pocket tablet/PDA running linux, I can get one of those, I want a PHONE that the phone part works perfectly.

Re:Problem is.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44440057)

You can return it within 28 days for a full refund if you do not like it or if you have any issues with it. If the campaign does not succeed you also get a full refund. I really can't understand why people are so afraid of being disappointed, as this campaign is completely risk-free for the consumers.

Re:Problem is.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44441127)

Because all that return shit is annoying as fuck? Especially for something as likely to suck as a Canonical product.

Re:Problem is.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year ago | (#44441147)

Because unlike the unemployed street bum I make money with my phone. so every missed or failed call is lost money.

Re:Problem is.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44440251)

I dont want a pocket tablet/PDA running linux, I can get one of those, I want a PHONE that the phone part works perfectly.

Well, I want a PDA that runs linux, and I hate phones. It is a good thing that not all companies target only the biggest group of consumers.

Re:Problem is.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year ago | (#44441155)

They have been out for a decade.

Look for a used sharp Zaurus. there are tons of very killer models to choose from that are 100% open and run linux.

Re:Problem is.... (1)

Microlith (54737) | about a year ago | (#44441465)

I dont want a pocket tablet/PDA running linux, I can get one of those, I want a PHONE that the phone part works perfectly.

Then go buy one instead of commenting on an article about something that is of no interest to you.

Re:Problem is.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year ago | (#44447747)

Oh sorry, I thought this was about a PHONE.. Someone needs to contact the article writer and tell them to stop calling it a phone.

I'm sold (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44440085)

You had me at Bacon. Mmmm.

DISCLOSURE (1)

Computer_kid (996105) | about a year ago | (#44440411)

At least two Slashdot editors currently run Windows/OSX/DOS/OS2Warp/Dipswitches.

How about... (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | about a year ago | (#44441055)

...near-POSIX compliance, & real package management instead of this appstore bullshit?

How are they going to do this? (1)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | about a year ago | (#44441247)

With ~30% of the month over, they've raised less than a quarter of what they need. I don't see how this will succeed in getting funding, but I hope it works out. Although something about the way they talk about the goal tells me that it's not a serious roadblock if they don't make the $32M. Just a hunch though. Also I didn't realize until I watched the video that you can bring your own phone if you want, so probably lots more people will benefit from the software work they're doing than will benefit from the hardware work. And regarding the hardware, Jono did say, "it's got this...this angle at the top," which was the funniest comment on the hardware design I've heard so far ;-) (And come on, IBM--that commercial was torture. Liven it up a little.)

Doing it for the buzz? (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about a year ago | (#44441965)

I suspect they're doing it for the buzz. I mean, if they're really serious about meeting their financing goal why choose a lesser known crowd funding site like Indie Gogo? I won't be surprised if some mysterious "donor" suddenly doubles the pledged amount at the last minute.

Editors? (1)

wjcofkc (964165) | about a year ago | (#44442293)

DISCLOSURE: At least two Slashdot editors currently run Ubuntu or Kubuntu.

Slashdot has editors?

Ubuntu doesn't want to be Linux (1)

readingaccount (2909349) | about a year ago | (#44442605)

As a side note, it's been interesting to note how much Canonical wants to distance Ubuntu from being known as just-another-Linux-distro. Yes it's still Linux, yet it still runs Linux programs, but Ubuntu doesn't mention the word Linux at all in most of its literature unless it's of a technical nature (heck, the word Linux doesn't even appear on http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop [ubuntu.com] except as a keyword in the page's source).

This Slashdot article isn't even in the Linux category here, which I find telling.

this will be the year of the linux phone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44442915)

fuck me. i'm not puttin up with another 15 years of that bullshit.
I'll buy a nokia phone first. ya hear? A NOKIA PHONE!!!
you bastards... you're gonna do it are'nt you?

Doesn't it look just a bit like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44444207)

... this [1fotech.com]

Bring Back LUG Radio (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44445345)

Jono was fantastic on LUG radio. Everything since has been well... Ubuntu. Uninteresting, unwanted, etc...

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