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Geeks On a Plane Proposed To Solve Global Tech Skills Crisis

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the smart-flight dept.

The Almighty Buck 303

judgecorp writes "British Airways' Ungrounded project proposes to shut 100 Silicon Valley 'gamechangers' in a trans-Atlantic plane and ask them to solve the world's tech skills crisis during a 12-hour flight to London. On arrival, the passengers will head into a conference where they will present their ideas to, among others, the UN. From the article: 'Ungrounded, as the project is called, will bring 100 “innovators” (Silicon Valley CEOs, thinkers and venture capitalists) on a private BA flight from San Francisco to London. During the flight, they will take part in a “global hack” run by Ideo, a design firm which has made mice for Microsoft and Apple.'"

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Don't forget the free and open source people too (5, Funny)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300441)

Put at least Stallman, ESR and Torvalds on that plane.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300505)

Two things wrong with that idea: Firstly, it would put people that actually matter there, making it a high risk operation. Secondly, they don't want people who care about contributing to society interfering. By the way, what bloody crisis? There are plenty of people with skills, just recognize them and people will aspire to acquire skills too (because what we need is access and personal motivation). It still annoys me that Gates got the wrong honorary doctorate (technology, should have been business).

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (1, Insightful)

garaged (579941) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300701)

Just remember how much money Gates spent on a self declared failed education project....

They might be damn good at making money, but they are not as good or dont even care wellbeing for the majority... After all they are represent the best of what is making the world be as it is, socially speaking.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300851)

it would put people that actually matter there, making it a high risk operation

only in the case of torvalds... the other two are just hacktivists

they don't want people who care about contributing to society interfering

actually torvalds would fit quite well... he cares about engineering, not people

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (5, Informative)

MareLooke (1003332) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301135)

it would put people that actually matter there, making it a high risk operation

only in the case of torvalds... the other two are just hacktivists

Classifying RMS as "just a hacktivist" only highlights your ignorance. I suggest you read up on everything he's achieved (he started emacs, gdb and gcc to name a few) as a hacker before making such an unfounded claim.

The fact that RMS also cares about people and not just about sating his own technological cravings is a positive point imho, whether I agree with him or not (and I often don't)

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (4, Insightful)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301113)

Good that you mention aspiration. Today, our brightest kids are thinking about the career to pursue, and are faced with the following choice: coast through law school and get a job that pays well and is well-respected (I meant by regular folks, not us). Grab a masters in business school and be a high earning manager or hot shot consultant. Or slog your way through a masters in tech, which is generally far more difficult and often takes longer as well, after which you'll have a job that earns you little respect and pay to match (that's not a coincidence, by the way). The find out that companies mostly offer only sucky career progression, often having no way up except going into middle management, where you end up at a level which your buddy who went to business school got right out of the gate, more or less. What the hell kind of choice is that?

Back when I was deciding which uni to go to (in the late 80s), people already said you'd have to be mad to pick a career in tech, and since then things haven't improved any. I went anyway, as I prefer to do the things I love doing.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (1)

kasperd (592156) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301105)

Put at least Stallman, ESR and Torvalds on that plane.

I think it is quite limited what you can get all three of them to agree on. But once they do agree on something, chances are it will be a really good idea.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (5, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301159)

Uh. No. I'm kind of hoping that plane crashes.

Thing is, what made silicon valley what it was is a bunch of people trying all new things without the encumberance of a colon-full of patents and lawyers to spread them around. (See what I did there? It was intentional... let the image sink in.)

Want the "good old days" back? Remove the kings of the hill and let's see a new scramble to the top. It wasn't WHO got us there as much as that there was a place to go. In the race to the top, there was less effort in trying to keep everyone else down and more into trying to rise to the top.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301303)

+1 Insightful

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (5, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301427)

When were these 'good old days'? There's a story from shortly after the founding of Sun. They got a visit from IBM with a set of patents that they claimed Sun infringed. They sat the patent lawyers down and explained why for each patent it was either invalid or didn't apply. The Nazgul replied that they were probably right, but they could come back with another seven patents that Sun did infringe, and fighting them in court would be far more expensive than Sun could afford. Sun signed a cross-licensing agreement with IBM. This was the early '80s.

Re:Don't forget the free and open source people to (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301181)

scratch stallman. That man can't get along with anybody

My own personal hell. (1)

phase_9 (909592) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300447)

All fun and games until the guy in front decides to fully recline and you no longer have space to open your laptop. Aside from the usual 'hackathon' merits and drawbacks (personally, I'm not a fan of working flat out over my weekends); why on earth would you want to do this on a plane, in a noisy, cramped environment where you get to breathe in the same recycled air for 9 hours of pure mystery... I mean "fun".

Re:My own personal hell. (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300751)

where you get to breathe in the same recycled air for 9 hours

not really

http://www.askthepilot.com/questionanswers/cabin-air-quality/ [askthepilot.com]

just sayin

Re:My own personal hell. (1)

Lincolnshire Poacher (1205798) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301281)

http://www.askthepilot.com/questionanswers/cabin-air-quality/

That site is PR for airlines. In that one article alone there is one half-truth and one lie.

The half-truth is that the pilots / crew are powerless over the work of the aircon system It states: "pilots cannot tinker with a plane’s air-conditioning systems to modify the ratio of fresh to recirculated air". They can and do. For example, on the 737 Classic and NG there are two recirc fans. Disengage the left system and the forward cabin will receive 100% fresh air and this leaks to the aft cabin ( fed from the right-hand pack ).

The lie is that the pilots breathe the same air as the passengers. They do not, there is often a separate aircon feed to the cockpit which runs with a higher fresh air ratio ( in some cases 100% ).

Re:My own personal hell. (1)

isorox (205688) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300959)

All fun and games until the guy in front decides to fully recline and you no longer have space to open your laptop. Aside from the usual 'hackathon' merits and drawbacks (personally, I'm not a fan of working flat out over my weekends); why on earth would you want to do this on a plane, in a noisy, cramped environment where you get to breathe in the same recycled air for 9 hours of pure mystery... I mean "fun".

I suggest you fly in an appropriate class. On BA WTP removes that problem, obviously CW and F dont get it either.

suckers (4, Insightful)

eviljav (68734) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300465)

They'll be great at brainstorming innovative ways of suckering gullible investors out of money, not sure what else "Silicon Valley CEOs, thinkers and venture capitalists" can do though.

Re:suckers (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300821)

It will be a 'mile high' orgy.. with coke and blackjack

Re:suckers (2)

hughbar (579555) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301383)

Agree, this is dot.froth to coin a new phrase and tld isn't it? Important problems aren't solved by 12 hour hacks even using 'world class experts'. If things [world hunger, war, disease, space travel] were that easy, we'd all have our togas, flying cars and vacations on the moon now. Get over it.

Isn't that a bad idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300467)

Might be too many people that want to bring that plane down ....

Sung to the tune of bye bye miss american pie ... "I can remember the day the internet died"

no tech skills crisis (5, Insightful)

dredwerker (757816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300469)

I can solve this on ten seconds. Stop asking for every stupid little skill on the job ad and people would match. A good programmer is a good programmer.

End of rant :)

Re:no tech skills crisis (5, Insightful)

preaction (1526109) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300509)

To expound on this:

Stop asking for 100% demonstrable skills up-front. You may need to spend some time on-the-job training.

Stop paying executives so much so you can afford better workers.

Old people are not outdated. Experience is actually worth something. Use some of that money you're saving by not having golden parachutes for C-levels.

This entire crisis is manufactured.

Re:no tech skills crisis (2)

dredwerker (757816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300629)

To expound on this:

Stop asking for 100% demonstrable skills up-front. You may need to spend some time on-the-job training.

Stop paying executives so much so you can afford better workers.

Old people are not outdated. Experience is actually worth something. Use some of that money you're saving by not having golden parachutes for C-levels.

This entire crisis is manufactured.

Thanks for the expound :)

Re:no tech skills crisis (4, Insightful)

Internetuser1248 (1787630) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301053)

Don't forget education. The solution to any skill shortage is usually education. You are of course right though the hiring practices and working conditions play a big part in this particular one. Well that didn't take 12 hours.

Re:no tech skills crisis (4, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300719)

Exactly. There are plenty of people with plenty of skills out there. If they accept the simple logic that unless they are willing to hire some people with less than X years experience in ABC, there will eventually be no people with X or more years experience left, they can make sure there will be plenty of skilled people for the future as well.

The final bit is that they'll have to understand the old adage that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

If there was REALLY a serious shortage, they would either raise pay or offer better conditions (like 40 hour max weeks in the contract w/ more vacation time).

Re:no tech skills crisis (2, Informative)

bzipitidoo (647217) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301359)

offer better conditions

Yes! We don't mean silly little perks like free snacks, we mean fair management. Something superficial like free snacks sours real fast when crony packed bad management chooses and guides projects poorly, falls for the bullshit artists' cons, hires incompetents instead of good job candidates over stupidly discriminatory reasons such as age, demands death marches in a desperate attempt to get back on the insane schedule they created and should have discussed more before committing to it, then successfully blames the mess on the super smart techies they wouldn't heed because, well, those guys are smart and should have known better.

If there was REALLY a serious shortage, they would...

Stop screwing over US college students with bad student loan deals? And actually offer free college education. Scholarships are something, but I think that college should be paid for in the same way high school is. Stop looking at college as some sort of privilege that students ought to pay for, when the truth is that we need all those educated people to run our democracies. Instead, we've seen the forces of anti-intellectualism and greed enjoy too much success at dismantling public spending on college, out of some moral notion that people should pay their way on this matter, and for the sake of balancing budgets that are not in crisis. We don't ask high school students to pay their way, why is college so different? We are amply repaid whenever we invest in education. Asking those who have nothing to pay their way, who can't be reasonably expected to have yet held a job that pays enough to afford college, is just plain greedy, and very unfair to those who come from poor families. I hear tuition has taken quite a jump in recent years.

Re:no tech skills crisis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301005)

They list so many skills that no one can fill the job so they can avoid hiring locally and outsource the staff and save money to pad the bottom line and increase their own bonuses. There isn't a tech skills crisis.

Re:no tech skills crisis (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301419)

Save the money on the flight, I have the solution. BAN MBAs & so-called "efficiency experts" from High Tech Companies

History will show MBAs will be the downfall of Western Civilization. 500 Years from now, MBAs will be known as a bad idea / colossal mistake.

In essence their problem is sacrificing long term health of a company for short term profits so they can get their over-sized bonuses.

Every high tech company I have worked for, these types have crippled / damaged the effectiveness of these companies.

XKCD had a better idea. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300471)

Put the world's leading scientists in a locked room for a year and tell them to solve one of the world's most pressing problem. Mention that if they can't do it in a year, they get executed.

If they fail, it'll give more motivation for the next group.

Re:XKCD had a better idea. (1)

CommanderK (1078087) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300853)

Mention that if they can't do it in a year, they get executed.

And what if they spend that entire year thinking about how to execute you before you get them first? Second problem: since these are the leading minds and you execute them, the next batch will necessarily be dumber (or at best equal) than the current one.

Re:XKCD had a better idea. (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300857)

for programmers to solve problems under pressure you just need a gun and a hooker

Re:XKCD had a better idea. (2)

Xugumad (39311) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301127)

As a recent ex-scientist (hint; I moved to software developer for the shorter hours and better pay), if we only had one problem to solve at a time, it would be much easier...

Re:XKCD had a better idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301329)

Wtf are the scientists going to do to the worlds problems? The big problems are pretty much solved from the technical side. It's the human nature that needs to be changed. Politicians and business people are the ones that need to locked into a room. That even has an added bonus of them being locked in a room. Just that might solve several problems.

Re:XKCD had a better idea. (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301355)

Human nature is a technical problem.

Puke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300473)

Make sure to stock enough puke bags onboard.

Re:Puke (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300827)

and condoms...

Re:Puke (1)

Noughmad (1044096) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301137)

Condoms? No, I think they're just trying to get geeks to breed.

maybe they could come up with a way to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300475)

Maybe they could collaborate and come up with a way to collaborate without having to get on a fucking airplane.
Oh wait you mean the entire article is a giant sales pitch about trying to get more people to fly more often instead of using a conference call?
Maybe they could have a co sponsor like Yahoo. Maybe they could talk about how they have to change their poorly managed business, make people accountable for their job tasks, and above all else... buy a kids program for an obscene amount of money. End of rant.

Re:maybe they could come up with a way to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300881)

Maybe they could fly the plane into the new World Trade Center & then the mighty US military could go to war with the country that harbored the new terrorists.

Oh hang on.

THINK !! OF !! THE !! STINK !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300483)

P !!
U !!

Cabin air bleeds you !!

Re:THINK !! OF !! THE !! STINK !! (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300833)

wonder if there's a cabin air source switch in the flight deck to change from compressor bleed air to turbine bleed air

"Thinkers?" (5, Insightful)

Stiletto (12066) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300485)

What do venture capitalists and CEOs know about innovation?

Re:"Thinkers?" (1)

Alex Belits (437) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300495)

What do venture capitalists and CEOs know about innovation?

Pronunciation.

Re:"Thinkers?" (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300837)

they know how to rip it off

Re:"Thinkers?" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301075)

They know how to block innovation by filing patents.

Re:"Thinkers?" (3, Insightful)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301081)

A hell of a lot... provided you get the right kind of CEO and VC, some of them are good thinkers. Good ideas are only a small part of innovation; implementing those ideas, scaling up, and fitting the idea with the culture around it (or the other way around, in other words selling the idea) comes next, and that is where a lot of start-ups fail, even though their ideas are first rate. These people know more about the markets (and its problems) than techies, and are used to think in terms of money and organisations, useful stuff if you already want to explore the feasibility and implementation of your ideas. You wouldn't want only CEOs and VCs though.

The issue I have with this is not the qualifications in general of CEOs and VCs for this sort of gathering. It is that they are part of the problem: paying techies on a decent pay scale, offering viable career paths, getting more tech savvy people into management... this stuff always comes up when companies discuss attracting more tech workers, but when they look at the bottom line they always ditch this in favour of outsourcing more stuff to India, and a few years later they're left wondering why there are so few actually capable techs left, and why so many of their projects fail. It can be incredibly hard for people to think outside the box, the danger is that the wrong kind of ideas get generated. More immigrant worker visas for example, they'll love that sort of thing.

What a reference... Mice for MS? (1)

dragisha (788) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300527)

Those are some great people. Good thing they built this think tank and thank God we have such great people to rely on!

Global crisis? (4, Insightful)

wirehead_rick (308391) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300531)

The only global crisis I am aware of is the desire for western companies to drive down tech engineering and programmers wages.

What else could they be trying to solve on a freakin' plane?

There is no tech skills crisis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300537)

Increase wages
Improve working conditions (starting with hours)
Stop flooding the market with cheap imported labor (it creates uncertainty in the labor pool)
Start training your hires and stop playing resume keyword bingo with applicants
Start investing in your people and stop looking to jump on the next "superstar"

Seriously... you get 150 applicants, and not a single one is qualified? That's a problem with your job, not with the labor pool.
And who in their right mind would go into this field knowing that firms would prefer to hire an H1B over you.

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Re:Younger Women Looking For Older Men Dating Site (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300569)

Wer's glaubt, wird selig.

Ugh, horrible idea (1)

jfern (115937) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300541)

Of course they'll want unlimited H-1Bs since that's what the Harvard Business school taught them to say.

They'll monetize the world's problems... (4, Insightful)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300545)

What is it they think SV CEOs and VCs really know how to do well actually?

It isn't solve the world's problems, it's monetize them.

It's more along the lines of turning what used to be a one-time $35 dollar product you purchase into a $8/month for-the-rest-of-your-life monthly service fee.

Re:They'll monetize the world's problems... (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301149)

How do you expect to solve the world's problems, if your solution isn't profitable or even feasible? Assessing that is what those people are good at.

By the way, no profits mean can still be successful but you'll have to go after government cash. Which is fine, but if there's profit (or mutual benefit) to be had by all parties involved, there's a much greater chance of success.

Is this the 'B' Ark? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300547)

The rest will follow, right?

(Captcha: wartime)

Prank time! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301405)

I'd love it if someone would pull a hack (in the MIT-prevalent sense) and make that plane actually say "B" Ark, at least on touchdown in London.

I for one (3, Funny)

codeButcher (223668) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300557)

100 "innovators" (Silicon Valley CEOs, thinkers and venture capitalists)

How glad I am they put innovators in quotes.

They should have done the same to geeks in the heading.

technocracy (1)

scum-e-bag (211846) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300579)

implement a global technocracy
that is all we need

Wrong approach (1)

ElGanzoLoco (642888) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300591)

They'll just spend the better part of those 12 hours to get WiFi on board.

Re:Wrong approach (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300609)

Which all know the wifi will cause the plane to have a catostrophic failure and crash to the ground in a wifi erball.

WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300595)

seriously, WTF?! Is our goverment structure so fucked up that a plane full of random people can solve their problems in 6 hours without access to additional data over what they already know?

Jet lag! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300619)

That is one slow flight. SFO to LHR usually takes no more than 9.5 hours.

Also, has no one taken the 8 hour jet lag these people will be suffering into account?

Tech Skills Crisis Solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300621)

You can start by reversing the trend of dumbing down user interfaces (GNOME 3, Windows 8 I'm looking at you), and make GUI's where the person using them has to actually understand what is going on with their computer.

Flight redirected (4, Funny)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300625)

Flight redirected... to india!

Re:Flight redirected (1)

Prokur (2445102) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301347)

Flight redirected... to india!

and then hijacked by Chinese Hackers

Re:Flight redirected (2)

Prokur (2445102) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301351)

Flight redirected... to india!

and then hijacked by Chinese Hackers

Finally landed in North Korea

one single missile (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300635)

just think think what a single ground to air missile could accomplish - almost as good a start as 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean.

Re:one single missile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301073)

With some luck, the plane will fall on the building hosting a lawyer conference, solving two problems with a single hit.

What a stupid and potentially disastrous idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300647)

There's a reason some companies don't allow all their key staff to travel on one flight.

If (hopefully not) something happens to that plane, you've lost 100 game changers. I'm sure that'd benefit everyone.

Last time I checked, a lot of companies had policies against this kind of thing (hopefully it extends to this kind of stupidity as well)

"Ungrounded"? (1)

dutchd00d (823703) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300683)

Unhinged, more like.

But then any publicity is good publicity, right?

Geeks On a Plane (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300715)

I have had it with these motherfucking geeks on this motherfucking plane!

This could work (5, Funny)

sjames (1099) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300737)

As long as they also put plenty of venomous snakes on the plane. They'll need more than one flight to cut out all of the deadwood at the top, but it's got potential.

Re:This could work (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301065)

Your plan has but one flaw, unfortunately now that Samuel L. Jackson has decided to become a silicon valley entrepreneur(kickyourmotherfuckingass.com), those poor snakes don't stand a chance.

The wrong people (5, Insightful)

EdmundSS (264957) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300739)

CEOs and VCs are not necessarily the people who have ideas, and if they do, they *already* have the means to express them. I'd rather see 100 respected, talented, peer-voted if necessary, folks on the panel: *true* technocrats, true innovators, not financial folks; people with ideas, sometimes wacky ideas, rather than folks money; the people who turn down a promotion to management because it would take them away from the detailed problem-solving.

OK fine (1)

symbolset (646467) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300743)

Geeks on a plane. Great! Get back on the plane and fly to Haiti and figure out how to help those people. The $20B we sent them seems to not have arrived.

Skills Crisis ?... (5, Insightful)

OneSmartFellow (716217) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300755)

Bull$"/?

There's no skills crisis, there's a corporate unwillingness to pay for skill crisis.You want me, who has spent nearly three decades learning continuously, struggling to understand the latest IT technologies, some so bleeding edge that I helped form the damned standards, to work for the same amount of money I earned 30 years ago, while you, with your Business Administration undergraduate degree from Florida State take home nearly a million a year because you talk a maelstrom of bullshit every time you open your mouth.

F % ( # Y O U

Re:Skills Crisis ?... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300953)

u mad?

Re:Skills Crisis ?... (2)

Xugumad (39311) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301007)

Yes

their solution... (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300767)

...another tech bubble

Re:their solution... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300911)

this

How about solving Global Warming in the same way (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300771)

Yes, get as many people as possible crammed into as many aircraft as possible. It's the only way...

This is just airline marketing. Why give it any prominence at all ?

These aren't "geeks on a plane" (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300803)

It's just a bunch of rich bastards going on a junket dreaming up more ways to exploit cheap labor... and fucking the stewardesses

Fix the problem (5, Insightful)

stretch0611 (603238) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300815)

To fix the shortage, you can start by paying people what they are worth. IT work requires education (either college, on the job, and/or continuing education classes) This is not cheap, it is not easy to keep up with, and employers should pony up the funds to keep talent that can handle it, and help with paying for it (with both money and time off for classes.) If you look at the market, the places willing to pay for the top talent will get it.

Stop burn out... No one should ever be forced to work 50+ hour weeks on a regular basis. It may occasionally happen due to deadlines or support issues, but if it is a regular occurrence, there is a problem and it needs to be fixed. Many people leave the IT field due to stress, and this is a big reason.

End age discrimination... While fixing the above items can help this, and it does not happen everywhere, this is out there. A person doesn't go instantly dumb at 40... While there are exceptions, most IT people are willing to learn, if you are moving everything to the cloud and your entire department only knows COBOL, whose fault is that? A little training can go a long way. Re-training your IT department for your needs is a smart investment, if you are loyal to your employees, most will actually become loyal to you...

While I'm sure MBA's will disagree, if you change these policies, you will no longer have an IT shortage.

And here is one more, this one is more the fault of education instead of corporations... (also, mostly about developers, but it might apply to other fields)
We need to teach people how to program, not programming languages. There are too many people that learn a language without learning any programming concepts. They end up googling even simple programming solutions and slap crap together that needs to be rewritten with every minor spec change. The people that learned how to program will write something that is flexible and can be modified as the system evolves. Over time this will allow for time savings which will translate into needing fewer developers.

The will call it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300841)

"Flakes on a Plane"

"Welcome to Big Talk" (1)

zedrdave (1978512) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300873)

I know single-video comment is bad form, but I cannot think of anything more fitting than this [youtube.com] .

Tech skill crisis? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300899)

"You have 10 years experience with Linux Visual Studio Distributed Synchronous Multithreaded Transactional Space Cloud Computing 2013. You will be responsible for mission critical projects and budgets 2M+. You are expected to be on call. We offer competitive compensation of up to $4/h."

We don't need that .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300915)

Plane anymore. That is the solution.

Another option (1)

Cornwallis (1188489) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300947)

In order to encourage innovation let's put the U.S. Congress on a similar flight.

With 11 hours of fuel.

Enough is enough! (1)

Renegade88 (874837) | about a year and a half ago | (#43300977)

I've had it with these motherfucking geeks on this motherfucking plane!

What if the plane crashes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43300991)

huh?

the solution is in sight! (1)

Titus Groan (2834723) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301023)

if you get all the SV CEOs and VCs onto one plane most of the tech world's problems could be eliminated with one well aimed SAM.

Don't put all your egg-heads in one aircraft. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301041)

> British Airways' Ungrounded project proposes to shut 100 Silicon Valley 'gamechangers' in a trans-Atlantic plane

There is no way this can happen. One plane? A single thunder strike, pilot error or an angry guy with a shoulder fired chimney tube tbe could literally decapitate Silicon Valley. You see, corporations anf govts are not stupid, they have very strict rules on who may travel with whom in a single vehicle of any kind, in order to prevent loss of leadership scenarios.

Crash plane... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301047)

crisis solved as people who know what the job entails are moved into management positions.

Pfft (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301157)

"100 Silicon Valley 'game changers' in a trans-Atlantic plane and ask them to solve the world's tech skills crisis during a 12-hour flight to London."

I'm sure they'll all agree that taxes should be lowered.

What could possibly go wrong (1)

gshegosh (1587463) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301161)

Put the best of your thinkers on a single plane and shout about it in all the media in advance. No way the plane could be targeted.

On the boarding pass... (1)

cardpuncher (713057) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301183)

...the letters "B-Ark" should be distinctly visible.

I turned them down (1)

stevegee58 (1179505) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301189)

I turned down their invitation when I found out it wasn't on a flight to Las Vegas.

Mandatory Bad Pun (1)

StoneyMahoney (1488261) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301219)

That many devs on one aircraft... makes on a plane.

wrong people (1, Insightful)

Tom (822) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301223)

Good idea, bad choice of people.

The real innovators and creative people are rarely the ones you see in the news or on the boards. More often then not, they are unknown.

It does take a visionary CEO or such to lead these people and to make their ideas into products, I do not want to diminish the skills of those people. Steve Jobs was one of them. But Steve Jobs did not invent the iPhone - he lead a company that did. The inspired the creative people within Apple that did. The created the environment in which they could.

Finding the really brilliant minds is no small task.

Ultra-Dumb Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43301277)

Bad idea to put 100 "gamechangers" in the same spot at the same time, especially on a plane.

CEOs are not "geeks" (1)

1u3hr (530656) | about a year and a half ago | (#43301431)

...which will put one hundred geeks on a plane for twelve hours to look for solutions to the global tech skills crisis. Ungrounded, as the project is called, will bring 100 âoeinnovatorsâ (Silicon Valley CEOs, thinkers and venture capitalists) on a private BA flight from San Francisco to London.

CEOs, venture capitlsts. To work in Silicon Valley they must be able to talk the talk, but I'll bet none of them is a "geek" as the word is used now. Though some might be adept at biting the heads off chickens.

Probably a good thing considering how clueless real geeks can be about how society works. They tend to be either libertarians, communists or anarchists. All equally unreal and unworkable philosophies in the real world.

Anyway, obviously the CEOs and venture capitalists will advocate importing cheap talent from poor countries to replace the expensive local workers. The only interesting thing is how they will present it to try to make it seem like a good thing for the first world workers. "You'll all be promoted to managers" maybe.

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