The Pirate Bay's Oldest Torrent Is Revolution OS 130
jrepin writes "After nearly 9 years of seeding The Pirate Bay's oldest working torrent is still very much alive. Interestingly, the torrent is not a Hollywood classic nor is it an evergreen music album. The honor goes to a pirated copy of Revolution OS, a documentary covering the history of Linux, GNU and the free software movement."
Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? (Score:5, Insightful)
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TPB _HAS_ older porn (and other stuff) than this movie.... The truth is just not as interesting as this story. And the movie is also not the truth but a spiced up political anti MS version of it. Linus wrote Linux because of the high price of the Unixes at the time (his own words at the time); Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
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Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
Apart from spending decades trying to kill it.
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"decades" is a funny term to use when Linux has barely been around for "decades", and MS certainly hasnt been trying to kill it for its entire life.
"Decade", maybe.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? (Score:5, Informative)
"TPB _HAS_ older porn (and other stuff) than this movie"
Citation required. Please provide links so I may satisfy my academic curiosity.
Seriously I can find porn several decades older than the said movie, but TFA is talking about the torrent file itself. You might upload your VHS rip of Deep Throat today but that won't make it older than the torrent of this movie.
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Linus wrote Linux because of the high price of the Unixes at the time (his own words at the time); Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
And just for fun [amazon.com]. The relaxed social safety of Nordic countries allows you to screw around a bit and try interesting things (which might lead to innovation, as in the case with Linux...or Pirate Bay).
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? (Score:5, Insightful)
I was under the impression that Linus was inspired to "scratch his own itch" by creating Linux not because of "relaxed social safety" but because he had just gotten a new i386 computer and he wanted an OS that would take full advantage of all the features in the chip, and his then-current OS (MINIX) wouldn't do that, so he set about to implement a 80386 version of MINIX.
Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] supports this idea, and it is curious to note that he made his famous announcement on comp.os.minix, not, comp.os.look.at.what.i.can.do.because.of.our.relaxed.social.safety newsgroup...
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Well, let's just say that there was multiple reasons.
What I find interesting is the passion that Linus had to make lots various core system tools (editor, assembler, kernel) completely from scratch. Like to his Sinclair way before Linux. Back then you had to make your tools, as there was not many available, but still.
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More like Linus got a fancy i386 computer and wanted access to netnews, which his computer did not have at the time (he used to use univers
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And Oddly, you must have never seen the movie because Linus says exactly that IN THE MOVIE....
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm more impressed by the torrent of the whole geocities webpages (600GB+) with only one seeder.
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I'm tempted to download just the torrent file and see if I can find a friend's page from '97 or so, then leech that part of it.
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Porn-specific streaming websites (redtube etc.) are much better at serving porn than torrent trackers.
It's a good documentary (Score:5, Informative)
Very outdated, but still incredibly interesting and didactic. Oh, obligatory link [youtube.com] in case you want something even easier than torrenting.
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:5, Informative)
Very outdated, but still incredibly interesting and didactic.
Thanks for the new word. First time in a while I had to head to the dictionary. A Wikipedia snippet for others that don't know this word:
Didacticism is a philosophy that emphasizes instructional and informative qualities in literature and other types of art. The term has its origin in the Ancient Greek word (didaktikos), "related to education and teaching", and signified learning in a fascinating and intriguing manner.
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, I'm sorry, sir. I'm anaspeptic, phrasmotic, even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation.
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well fuck me drunk over a bar stool sideways
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:4, Funny)
You promised to never share our secrets in public.
It's over.
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Sausage? SAUSAGE?!?!?!?!
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A, B ( a sort of buzzing thing )
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I'm Greek, you insensitive clod!
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I'm Greek, you insensitive clod!
No need for anguish. I won't hold it against you.
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:5, Funny)
Unless English isn't your first language, you're a fucking retard.
Oh, my very own troll. Can I keep it?
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:4, Funny)
You wont want to, they smell bad and have no imagination at all. They tend to repeat the same thing over and over like a broken furby.
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YYEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
(insert cheesy glam-rock music here)
(cut to shots of places you'll never go and boats you can't afford crewed by women you can't have)
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YYEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
(insert cheesy glam-rock music here)
The Who are "cheesy glam-rock" to you?
THE WHO?!?
No, seriously, THE WHO are cheesy glam-rock?
Tommy would be ashamed.
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The Wikipedia quote is from Didacticism, the term the OP used is Didactic. While they share the same roots - they aren't the same word. (And didactic usually used as something of a pejorative.)
Re:It's a good documentary (Score:5, Interesting)
Quite sure.
Mostly because, in America, anything to do with thinking is somewhat frowned upon....
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And here I thought it was the xbox dashboard.
I remember getting that from TBP around the time.
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It's interesting to be able to put faces to names. But I've always had the nagging suspicion that the producers started out making a film about something else, ran out of money, and edited what they had in to Revolution OS.
...laura
Tautology Club (Score:5, Funny)
The Pirate Bay's oldest working torrent is still very much alive
In other news, the oldest living man is still alive, and the oldest standing structure hasn't yet fallen down!
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Oh lordy, welcome to the Department of Redundancy Department.
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There's a legend about the oldest living man: whenever one dies, another will immediately take his place. There can only be one oldest living man alive.
Twins?
Re:Tautology Club (Score:5, Funny)
The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club!
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"What is Tautology?" is a rhetorical question.
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Well, if you want to be technical, none of those are tautologies. They each fail to be true if there are no working torrents, living men, or oldest structures, or if these exist but there isn't a unique, maximally old one. (For example, perhaps several torrents were added simultaneously.)
HTH, HAND, YANAL (You Are Not A Logician)
Pirated copy? (Score:3)
Why would you need to pirate it? Shouldn't a documentary about free open source movement be.... free?
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Why would you need to pirate it? Shouldn't a documentary about free open source movement be.... free?
Just because the website's named "The Pirate Bay" doesn't mean everything there is pirated. The same goes for the protocol.
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Why? It's the owners choice as to whether or not something will be free. Making a documentary about something does not automatically mean having the same beliefs.
Re:Pirated copy? (Score:5, Funny)
Just a documentary about the moon landing should land on the moon?
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How DARE someone make a living off of OSS; and how dare Red Hat be responsible for most of the OSS presence in the business world!
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I think it was a double dog dare, so they couldn't just say "no".
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Swing and a miss (Score:3, Informative)
This was posted yesterday on Reddit, and refuted there as well; a couple of porn torrents are older.
Link: After nearly 9 years of seeding... [reddit.com]
[QUOTE] The Great Philosopher (Score:2)
"Think of Richard Stallman as the great philosopher and think of me as the engineer." -- Linus Torvalds
Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. (Score:2)
The irony is staggering.
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The GPL isn't about Digital Rights(/Restriction) Management, it's about Legal Rights Management. That is; it doesn't actively try to prevent you from breaking the license, it just describes consequences for doing so.
Piracy isn't generally an intellectual philosophy for the abolition of copyright; it's a pract
No the real irony is... (Score:4, Insightful)
it's in a patent encumbered, non-open format! Even worse, it's inside of an AVI container. :)
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Would of been better if it was a pirated copy of, "don't copy that floppy".
Unfortunately, they do not even have a copy of that film.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI [youtube.com]
streamed (Score:1)
Sounds Interesting. (Score:2)
I might have to pirate that latter.
Its is really still alive? (Score:2)
Or are people just seeding 99.98% of the thing and nobody knows how it ends?
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Slow news day? (Score:2)
No matter, just drop a headline on Slashdot thats only barely news but talks about { Religion | P2P | Politics }, and watch the page hits roll in!
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you forgot to add your posts to your logical-OR'd list. thanks for providing positive reinforcement to slashdot's behavior by posting and keeping the article threads alive.
Re:still a crime (Score:5, Informative)
Re:still a crime (Score:5, Funny)
Not everyone lives in California.
Okay, see, right there? You just lost 90% of Slashdot, either to blowing their minds out of their ears or to complete stodgy disbelief that the world ISN'T split into exactly four areas: California, Flyover Country, Japan, and Miscellaneous.
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you forgot unimatrix zero and endor... this is slashdot after all
Re:still a crime (Score:5, Funny)
You just misspelt USA, USA, USA and USA.
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You just misspelt USA, USA, USA and USA.
Actually, the spelling is correct.. Unfortunately for the nitpickers.. Usa, however, is in Japan, and had a strong manufacturing base in the 60s for products "Made in USA"
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Oh this garbage again? [snopes.com]
Re:still a crime (Score:5, Funny)
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Not everyone lives in California.
Okay, see, right there? You just lost 90% of Slashdot, either to blowing their minds out of their ears or to complete stodgy disbelief that the world ISN'T split into exactly four areas: California, Flyover Country, Japan, and Miscellaneous.
So it's not just between My Culture and Insensitive Clodistan?
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Not everyone lives in California. Downloading is legal in Switzerland for example (and there's other places where it is).
But is it moral or immoral, that's the actual question.
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But is it moral or immoral, that's the actual question.
It's amoral, so there is no question despite the best efforts of many to categorize it wrongly.
cheers,
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That sounds like the old "two wrongs make a right" argument.
Explaining why the opposition is wrong does not make you right.
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The Fox and the Stork: http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/19.html [bartleby.com]
Some people do think two wrongs do make a right, for instance, death penalty supporters think this way.
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What if no one has the file anymore? Didn't read the article, but off the top of my head I'd measure something like this by seeing if the possibility of getting the full file (in case no one has a full, but fragments on multiple systems put together would change that) becomes available within a certain time frame, maybe a week.
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It works, I saw a legal copy years ago and lost it in the meantime, but I wanted to show my wife something of what I do all day, so I downloaded that torrent a few weeks ago to watch with her.