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Canonical Announcing Ubuntu Tablet Tomorrow?

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the tomorrow's-tech dept.

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hypnosec writes "Canonical has a countdown on its site that indicates a possible tablet announcement tomorrow. With the Ubuntu Touch developer preview launching this week, the announcement about a tablet or at least an operating system for a tablet from Canonical has, it seems, taken a backseat. From the countdown that reads "Tick, tock, tablet time!" it is evident that Canonical is going to make some announcement about tablets tomorrow."

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$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939773)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

Disproof of all apk's statements: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043 [slashdot.org]
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719 [slashdot.org]
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*http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832417
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http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229765&cid=41872927 [slashdot.org]
AND MANY MORE

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

That's the kind of martial arts I practice.

The TRUTH about "APK" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939965)

Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed.

Facebook's global tentacles stretch throughout the arsenic industry, even in Russia.

Corporate interests are preventing us from getting the truth out.

On more than one occasion, the US government has forbidden travelers from Russia from flying to Kurdistan, without ever giving a cause.

Whistleblowers who reported on this issue in other countries have been silenced by their governments.

It's a little-known (but widely-suppressed) fact that APK has invested heavily in Facebook.

Is this really the world we want our children to grow up in?

Stop relying on the Mainstream Media for information about these critical topics, and seek the truth out for yourself.

Will they just go away? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939775)

They're giving linux a bad name.

Re:Will they just go away? (5, Insightful)

SerpentMage (13390) | about 2 years ago | (#42939813)

I have mod points, but dude you are a bonafide coward! Why are they giving Linux a bad name? I use Ubuntu all the time, and if anything they are making Linux usable. If you don't like that, fine, don't like it. Use another distribution. What is wonderful about Linux is that you don't have to like Ubuntu, because there is CHOICE! Think about that! Choice! Do we have choice with OSX? Windows? NO, NO and NO!

Re:Will they just go away? (3, Insightful)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#42939891)

I have mod points, but dude you are a bonafide coward! Why are they giving Linux a bad name? I use Ubuntu all the time, and if anything they are making Linux usable.

Does "usable" have to mean "shady invasive crap"?

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/02/18/1652242/mark-shuttleworth-addresses-ubuntu-privacy-issues [slashdot.org]

I used to appreciate Ubuntu (well, Kubuntu), but I really just wish another powerhouse distro would come along and take the banner for awhile. Preferably still based on Debian, but not necessary.

Re:Will they just go away? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939929)

Does "usable" have to mean "shady invasive crap"?

Google does pretty much the same thing across almost the entire web thanks to google analytics and nobody cares.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

Garridan (597129) | about 2 years ago | (#42939985)

Not nobody. My firefox accepts cookies and run scripts only if they're whitelisted, precisely to defeat google analytics (and a few others). I use gmail (and nothing but gmail) in Chrome, and otherwise stay logged out of google. If I really need to go to a website with a malware-capable browser, I use a guest account.

Re:Will they just go away? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939987)

In fact, contrary to your claim many people care. This is why Ghostery/NoScript/etc exist. Nice deflection though, shill.

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941393)

i care. none of my sites use any trackers

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

LurkerXXX (667952) | about 2 years ago | (#42941653)

None of my websites use google analytics. None of my computers accept cookies for them, and I block them in my hosts files.

There are people who care.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 2 years ago | (#42942921)

Annnnnd that is the reason you don't get any traffic.

Re:Will they just go away? (4, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42939931)

wish another powerhouse distro would come along and take the banner for awhile

You speak of Mint.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#42940125)

Which will work up until Mint needs funds to continue its existence.

Re:Will they just go away? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940165)

Mint has a pretty decent income, they bring in thousands every month and publish their incomes and amounts on their website. Mint is financially supported and probably wouldn't exist if it were not a commercial distribution.

Re:Will they just go away? (3, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42940187)

When that time comes, I would hope they do what Ubuntu started to do and ask for donations. I think it would have worked pretty well for Canonical if they hadn't killed any good will with the Amazon crap. I'd actually be quite interested which approach got them more money. Long term, I would think donations would win out.

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42942337)

You speak of Mint.

This is where I get my panties in a knot. If you can't tolerate an option that can be disabled easily because of some assumed ethical concerns, then WHY THE BLOODY HELL would you then choose a distro based on that, in your mind, abomination in the first place?

Ubuntu is getting waaay too much hate on here for privacy reasons that are moot and dwarfed the moment you open up a web-browser.

Remember back when we had to worry about real concerns like Novell being in bed with Microsoft? This, by comparison, is nitpicking, and more likely a result of nerdish fanboyism exhuming their hidden disgust with the mainstream not choosing their favorite distro.

Just turn the effin' thing off, how frickin' hard is it?!

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 2 years ago | (#42942909)

You have to realise that this is all about moral purity, which is why Richard Stallman is treated like royalty and entrepreneurs like dirt.

Re:Will they just go away? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940307)

I used to appreciate Ubuntu (well, Kubuntu), but I really just wish another powerhouse distro would come along and take the banner for awhile. Preferably still based on Debian, but not necessary.

So how about something like, uhhhh, Debian?

Re:Will they just go away? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940517)

Even better: based on Slackware, but with a well flushed out package base. The Slackware system is very nicely designed for noob or expert alike -- however, the lack of packages beyond a few hundred (perhaps thousands if you count slackbuilds.org) leaves plenty of people still scared off from Slackware. It's a shame; few systems leave things standard enough to not have to worry about nightmare tarball compilations for those packages you may still have left to compile by hand.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

GPLHost-Thomas (1330431) | about 2 years ago | (#42942347)

Exactly what in Debian is non-standard?

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#42939923)

I have mod points, but dude you are a bonafide coward! Why are they giving Linux a bad name?

Because they think that including spyware is a good business plan. Now ask how.

Re:Will they just go away? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939933)

Canonical is looking very desperate right now with all of this phone/tablet/tv stuff that nobody wanted or asked for. Plus, selling user's eyeballs to advertisers is about the scummiest thing you can do.

It's very likely Canonical will fold within the next year. Despite their efforts, Desktop Linux just never caught on.

If you are currently an Ubuntu user, it would be a good idea to start planning to move to a community-maintained distribution.

Timba his arms wide. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940013)

Tell me more about these "community-maintained distribution"s.
What ones are best?

Re:Timba his arms wide. (1)

BanHammor (2587175) | about 2 years ago | (#42941387)

Deeeebian. Mageia's good too.

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939953)

You're absolutely right. In the case of Ubuntu, I can "choose" to use another distribution, one that doesn't have spyware integrated into its own desktop UI.

Mark Shuttleworth seems to think that we "trust [Canonical] with root..." That may have been the case -before- you decided recording my keystrokes and sending them off to Amazon was a good idea, Mark. As it stands now I wouldn't trust you to take care of my privacy -or- my security.

Re:Will they just go away? (2)

theVarangian (1948970) | about 2 years ago | (#42940003)

I have mod points, but dude you are a bonafide coward! Why are they giving Linux a bad name? I use Ubuntu all the time, and if anything they are making Linux usable. If you don't like that, fine, don't like it. Use another distribution. What is wonderful about Linux is that you don't have to like Ubuntu, because there is CHOICE! Think about that! Choice! Do we have choice with OSX? Windows? NO, NO and NO!

Sure there is choice, I can for example abandon OS X for Windows OR Linux (Hint: That's two choices). There is a world outside Linux-land there is a world outside Wiindows-land and there is a world outside OS X land and you are allowed to travel between them.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

islisis (589694) | about 2 years ago | (#42940257)

Travel great distances, you mean. There is no other intraconnected, uniformly expanding 'land' like Linux.

©anoni©al won't work, they're still FOSS (4, Insightful)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 2 years ago | (#42940085)

To be honest, I'm not much of a fan of Ubuntu anymore and that for many of the standard reasons cited here on Slashdot. That being said, I do not understand the ire which comes out every time anything is posted about Ubuntu. I dislike Shuttleworth as much as the next guy, and I think they deserve criticism for the recent privacy issues, but lately it seems like they receive the sort of comments here that used to include "M$". I keep waiting for someone to start complaining about anonial.* I guess it just doesn't look as cool.

*(Ah. I see. When I clicked preview, I discovered that the cent signs I used for Canonical don't display on Slashdot. Having tried to use other unicode characters, I should have known better. That explains why people who enjoy making a sport of hating Ubuntu haven't used it.)

Re:©anoni©al won't work, they're still F (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941967)

I keep waiting for someone to start complaining about anonial.* I guess it just doesn't look as cool.

*(Ah. I see. When I clicked preview, I discovered that the cent signs I used for Canonical don't display on Slashdot. Having tried to use other unicode characters, I should have known better. That explains why people who enjoy making a sport of hating Ubuntu haven't used it.)

I think Niggerbuntu is starting to catch-on.

Re:©anoni©al won't work, they're still F (2)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about 2 years ago | (#42942659)

Whatever Shuttleworth does now, however shitty Unity is right now, I'll always remember my amazement in winter 2005 when I first tried Hoary Live CD.
That was the first Linux i tried where sound/network worked out of the box.
This guy invested millions in this cool project, and I had a blast using Ubuntu Desktop/Server/JeOS during many years.
Linux Mint wouldn't be exist without Ubuntu.

So thank you Mark!

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 2 years ago | (#42940349)

Well you're right in one aspect.
Ubuntu gave me the choice to run fast away to Linux Mint.

In all seriousness. 'having choice' in general is something
that is supposed to be BENEFICIAL to a customer in such
a way as to keep that customer and keep them happy.

Ubuntu is one of the execptions where 'having a choice',
as you so obligingly put it, means a kick in the groin.

Thanks for your time.

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940535)

Jesus Christ, check the slashdot front page sometime.

Re:Will they just go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940995)

Now that MSFT may finally be seeing its fall from consumer grace, perhaps we are seeing the rise of distro fanboys. There are enough fanboys. Religion, politics... You become an idiot to the fanboy with an opposing view.

Even Windows 8 has its good points... So does Ubuntu... So does Mint.. etc...

I wish this community would pride itself on objectivity, and tout the good points, as well as the bad.

Personally, now that Steam has gone Linux, I think I'm ready to use it as my main OS. I just hope people won't act like snobs over which future distros I prefer.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#42941031)

Ubuntu put a useless GUI on the main distribution, out-pacing even Microsoft Windows 8 in the race to the bottom, and also invasive crapware adware spyware. They put untested bleeding edge crap into their works.

Re:Will they just go away? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939881)

They're giving linux a bad name.

Oh fuck off.

Re:Will they just go away? (4, Insightful)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42940019)

They're giving linux a bad name.

And accelerating FOSS adoption in a huge rate.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940107)

Yeah, Linux market share has gone from .8% in 2006 to .95% in 2012. OMG!!!!

Re:Will they just go away? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941473)

those are bullshit numbers

Re:Will they just go away? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941979)

Go to hell you nigger.

Re:Will they just go away? (1)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 2 years ago | (#42942981)

This is completely true. Ubuntu should not be a vanity project and Mark Shuttleworth should not have to pay out of his own pocket to keep it relevant. Ubuntu needs to find ways to make consistent cashflow while remaining free-to-use.

All of this snidery is coming from people who don't understand that not everyone want to hand compile their own OS and don't think Richard Stallman is the Second Coming.

And the mentioning of Slackware just goes to show that Ubuntu is being treated like a pariah. Slackware is out-of-date shit and if Ubuntu and Mint and quite a few other distributions had not taken up the challenge of a FOSS desktop to compete with Windows and OSX we would have never seen Libreoffice or OpenOffice or Steam for Linux or quite a few other things. Slackware is a bastard to virtualize in an age of cloud computing - but perhaps being the perpetual outsider is the whole pose of Slackware purists.

Bring on the Ubuntu tablet just so long as it doesn't suck, Because with a Linux tablet we might just see mainstream FOSS apps being used by people who would never have touched a friggin' command line nor needed to.

Hooray! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939787)

Now you can have your privacy violated on the move!

It is medication time! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939791)

When they say "Tablet" they mean "Pill".

Re:It is medication time! (0)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#42939859)

Suppository.

Excellent News! (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#42939793)

Since the Ubuntu tablet will not have 'keys' in a physical sense; being a largely featureless slab of glass on the front just like everything else on the market, Canonical is pleased and proud to announce that 'keystrokes' will not be transmitted directly to valued advertising partners!

Re:Excellent News! (2)

Chewbacon (797801) | about 2 years ago | (#42940345)

Just like everything else: everybody's doing it!

Canonical (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939831)

go s*ck a f*ck...

Unity? (-1, Redundant)

ericcc65 (2663835) | about 2 years ago | (#42939833)

If it runs Unity then run for the hills. Seriously, how many users did they lose with that ugliness?

Re:Unity? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939849)

If it runs Unity then run for the hills. Seriously, how many users did they lose with that ugliness?

Not me. It's still Linux and I can still install window managers on top of Unity.

Re:Unity? (2)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42940221)

... unfortunately many of us had to. The good news is that I finally got around to devoting attention to setting up KDE the way I like it. That's the nice part about KDE; you can make it it perfect.

Re:Unity? (1, Interesting)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about 2 years ago | (#42942669)

I totally agree, and I loved my customized KDE 3.5.
But right now, with a job and a kid, I'm just not going to invest countless hours (days?) trying to make sense of every menu entry in KDE 4.x.

Re:Unity? (1, Flamebait)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#42939869)

Unity already supports linux as of version 4.0.

Oh -- you mean that shitty flashy interface thing; not the game engine.

Re:Unity? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939901)

Your mom supports 10 black cocks in her orifices at once as of 10 years ago.

Re:Unity? (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 2 years ago | (#42940939)

"If it runs Unity then run for the hills. Seriously, how many users did they lose with that ugliness?"

All the users who didn't know how easy it is to have more than one Desktop Environment on Linux

Re:Unity? (1)

ericcc65 (2663835) | about 2 years ago | (#42941165)

"If it runs Unity then run for the hills. Seriously, how many users did they lose with that ugliness?"

All the users who didn't know how easy it is to have more than one Desktop Environment on Linux

Yes, I know you can run other Desktop Environments and have used multiple ones. But the point is that the poor decision making and general direction of the project made me look for another distro that better matched what I wanted.

Re:Unity? (1)

SteveFoerster (136027) | about 2 years ago | (#42941415)

Zero in my family, actually. My Mom, son, and I still use Gnome (with Gnome panel), and my wife thinks Unity is great. (Then again she married me, so you already know she has strange preferences.)

Debian (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939855)

Can it be stripped and installed with Debian Linux?

Re:Debian (1)

zoward (188110) | about 2 years ago | (#42939951)

Can it be stripped and installed with Debian Linux?

...and will we want it to? I wasn't aware of Debian having resonable touch support (but TBH, I really don't know). How are the specs? How open is the hardware? Assuming reasonable specs, and open hardware drivers (and that's assuming a LOT), I'd like to see KDE Plasma Active on it.

I'd also like to see if Canonical can produce a usable tablet. I'm not a huge fan of Unity, but I'm willing to be impressed if they can make something impressive. Ball's in your court, Canonical.

Re:Debian (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about 2 years ago | (#42940271)

Plasma Active, Nemo, Cordia HD etc are all just touch screen environments running on top of the ruins of Meego.

There's nothing stopping anyone repackaging those rpms as debs. Which is probably Canonical's starting point, plus a Unity skin.

As for hardware, aren't they using the Google Nexus devices for developer images, i.e. Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 for phones and Nexus 7 for tablets?

Re:Debian (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939957)

Can it be stripped and installed with Debian Linux?

Can what be stripped and installed with Debian Linux?

This is why... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939875)

people blast "aggregators" like Slashdot. The submitter didn't even bother to make it clear that, except for a couple of words, the whole summary is copied from the source.

There's a difference between quoting and copying, heed it.

Re:This is why... (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#42939909)

ParityNews is just a regurgitation blog, anyway.

Ubuntu Unity worst phone/tablet OS alpha test ever (-1, Flamebait)

leftie (667677) | about 2 years ago | (#42939927)

Mark Shuttleworth wanted to develop tablet & phone OS with touch. He didn't have any way to get that built and tested, though. Shuttleworth just lied and said he wanted his "desktop of the future" to have huge buttons on it. Sure he did.

I can't believe so many people defended Unity as a desktop OS. Can't believe so many suckers bought it.

Re:Ubuntu Unity worst phone/tablet OS alpha test e (2)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about 2 years ago | (#42939955)

Five minutes using unity and I was sure that the ONLY way it made any sense was as a tablet interface.

Re:Ubuntu Unity worst phone/tablet OS alpha test e (3, Interesting)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#42939995)

And yet when people used it on the Nexus 7 it was horrendous as a touch interface.

The question is.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42939937)

Will it run Linux?

Re:The question is.... (2)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 2 years ago | (#42940369)

Actually, that's pretty funny.
Because when you visit the Ubuntu sites,
you'll be hard pressed to find any mention
of (the word) Linux.

Re:The question is.... (2)

GPLHost-Thomas (1330431) | about 2 years ago | (#42942381)

Or Debian... Even though more than 80% of all packages are coming from it.

Dead last (4, Interesting)

tftp (111690) | about 2 years ago | (#42939949)

I hope they will come up with some reason for the consumer to go out and buy an Ubuntu tablet. As things are, the competition is pretty strong. Android and iOS have all bases covered, with hundreds of thousands of applications, and with several years on the market, and with millions of deployed devices, and with the user base trained.

Sight unseen, I'd say that an Ubuntu tablet may not even win against a Windows 8 tablet. It still may be that Ubuntu people have some bright idea that hasn't occurred to Apple and Google, but that is not very likely. Price-wise, they are competing with a free OS (Android) that Google spends millions on in R&D, and with finished tablets that can be had for under $100.

Re:Dead last (3, Interesting)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about 2 years ago | (#42940119)

That's true if we think of the market in terms of dollars, everyone who's prepared to pay $499 for a tablet already owns one. If we look at the market in terms of number of users and potential users I think we'll find that more than 95% of everyone in the world does not yet own a tablet. Even if we limit ourselves to the 2.5 billion or so people who have a high enough income that they could potentially invest in a cheap tablet I bet more than 2 billion of them don't yet own one. All those people have yet to be trained to use iOS or Android on a tablet, and most of them probably don't even own a smartphone yet.

Mark Shuttleworth has said that they're primarily targeting consumers in the developing world and corporations/organizations in the developed world, which sounds like a viable plan to me if they can execute it. My doubts revolve around Canonical's ability to deliver a decent version of their OS (both from a consumer perspective and from an app developer perspective) in a timely manner, before the market has been completely saturated by cheap Android tablets and perhaps a cheap version of the iPad. I think it's more likely that it will take them several years to get to where the OS is competitive with Android and by then it will surely be too late.

Re:Dead last (1)

tftp (111690) | about 2 years ago | (#42940365)

Mark Shuttleworth has said that they're primarily targeting consumers in the developing world and corporations/organizations in the developed world

Android is free. The $99 that you pay for a low end tablet is all going to the manufacturer, to pay for the hardware. How will a different and less popular OS make it cheaper? What can you offer in UNIX/Linux that you cannot offer on Android? Why would you build a tablet application for Unity (using what?) and target hundreds of customers if you can build an Android application using an established and free Android SDK and target a hundred million customers? Why would you, as a customer, join a fringe group instead of a large community? (Well, some do, they bought WinRT tablets, after all.)

Nerdfest mentions below that there may be a market for Linux tablets, just as MS believes there is a market for PC tablets (non-RT.) Perhaps; there is a market for everything, as long as you don't care about its size. But there will be very few people - only some geeks - who'd want it. Professionals who need UNIX tools can get them on Android or iOS. Standard Linux applications (GIMP etc.) won't be very exciting on a tablet, considering that they aren't the easiest thing in the world on a PC. It can be even said that there are no killer applications on desktop Linux, such as those that would make you use Linux. On Windows they exist - QuickBooks, AutoCAD, SolidWorks, MS Office, etc.

It is not a viable business strategy to just hope that drinkers of your kool-aid will flock to the stores and buy your product. That didn't work for HP, and where is Canonical in comparison? Even Apple cannot go on blind hope; Apple sells because Apple's products work well, and they are worth the money to Apple's customers. If someone comes up with a Linux tablet (that has no other attractions except being Linux) then there will be just a handful of geeks who will buy it. The OpenMoko project proves this - geeks will buy everything, in small quantity. But that won't be enough to even keep the lights on. Every successful product has a good reason for its existence - it either does more, or it does it better, or it costs less. Canonical's tablet is not going to be cheaper; I am unsure how it can do more than competition, and the debate is open on whether it can do it better. A working AI who can sustain a long conversation would be a great example of such an improvement. But that has nothing to do with the OS; the code of that AI will be OS-agnostic. At this point, given that Android and Ubuntu run the same kernel, the only area of improvement is in the GUI. So the challenge is to make a GUI that is better than Android. That would be a trivial task for authors of Unity - unless they, for some reason, ask for the opinion of their customers :-)

Re:Dead last (2)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about 2 years ago | (#42940695)

In the low end market it's not the price of the OS that determines which phone is cheaper, it's how lightweight the OS plus apps are. If you can make an OS that runs better than the competition on last year's mid-range hardware you can deliver a fast and modern experience at a lower price. If you could deliver something as compelling as the Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 10 experiences (albeit with lower resolution displays) on last year's hardware you could begin to gain market shares in the low end market.

As I said, I doubt that Canonical will get there in time. It's not like Google will stop improving Android and wait for Canonical to catch up. All I'm saying is that there is a large market out there of people who will want to buy a tablet who haven't trained themselves to use Android or iOS yet, so theoretically speaking it's still possible to get a slice of that market.

Speaking of the UI, I can tell from watching their demo videos that they have gone completely overboard with all sorts of spacial navigation, left, right, up, down, swipe in from left, swipe down from top, seemingly all at once... Whew. I'm guessing most of the devs are high IQ people with genius level spacial reasoning skills who find that sort of thing super intuitive.course.

Re:Dead last (1)

Kjella (173770) | about 2 years ago | (#42940519)

Mark Shuttleworth has said that they're primarily targeting consumers in the developing world and corporations/organizations in the developed world, which sounds like a viable plan to me if they can execute it.

What part of that sounds like viable? To me it sounds like OLPC for tablets, except they think to make a profit on it. Is there any track record of a "poor man's device" succeeding in computers or small electronics? I'm thinking razor thin margins and extreme need for volume to drive unit price down, exactly what a large incumbent industry is made for like the dumb phones Nokia has been pounding out billions of. This is a lot more on the hardware side, a huge Android manufacturer thinking "If I order the cheapest parts I can find for 100 million tablets more, drop price another $10 and manage to sell them to new customers in developing countries at that price, do I make a profit?" than it is about software. I don't even think you'd need to be a Google partner, since it's about being as far away from the bleeding edge as possible.

The other part of it is that even if they're poor, they want a "normal" device like other people in richer countries have, if you look at use of Linux you'd think that'd rich countries use Windows and poor countries use Linux since it's free, right? That picture is at best mixed, many high-income countries like Germany are strong in open source while many if not most poorer countries have rampant Windows piracy and almost no open source culture at all because they want access to all the Windows software. So even if Ubuntu were able to put these low-end tablets on the shelves for equal or even slightly cheaper prices than Android tablets I think the market would overwhelmingly choose Android tablets. All around, Android is what Ubuntu would like to be and the train already left the station last year when Android wiped out pretty much everything that wasn't Apple.

Re:Dead last (3, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42940235)

I think there's a market for a 'real' Linux OS on a mobile device. The N800 sold like crazy for how available it was, and people still covet them. It's not a huge market, but I think it's there.

Re:Dead last (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941485)

There is a key difference. A good number of those sales were to nerds, geeks, and hobbyists. That is the market for old ones today, anyway. If nothing else, it was sold to people who are generally interested in new technologies.

The market Ubuntu is targeting now is much greater. It's everyone. Poor white trash with poor impulse control who can't buy an iPad but want something to browse Facebook on and watch YouTube videos of people hurting themselves. Housewives want to look up recipes and post pictures if their kids to Facebook. Mid level managers want something they can browse the web in and pretend they're doing something important, and also to post obnoxious comments to hide their insecurities about their accomplishments on Facebook.

As long as it has a decent price, decent hardware, has no command line EVER, and can run Facebook without crashing Ubuntu will do just fine in the marketplace.

Re:Dead last (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42942001)

The market Ubuntu is targeting now is much greater. It's everyone. Poor niggers with no impulse control who couldn't manage to steal an iPad but want something to browse Facebook on and watch YouTube videos of people hurting themselves. Housewives want to look up recipes and post pictures if their kids to Facebook. Mid level managers want something they can browse the web in and pretend they're doing something important, and also to post obnoxious comments to hide their insecurities about their accomplishments on Facebook.

As long as it has a decent price, decent hardware, has no command line EVER, and can run Facebook without crashing Niggerbuntu will do just fine in the marketplace.

FTFY.

Re:Dead last (0)

updatelee (244571) | about 2 years ago | (#42940297)

Im not really understanding all this effort going into the phoneOS.

I use Qt alot in my devel and love it, but QML only apps? theyve managed to build an OS that only can run Javascript and QML (another scripted language that still uses JS for the *heavy* processing) and cant run any existing Linux apps? It cant be just to create an open source alternative, we already got that.

Ubuntu shown that we can run Ubuntu on an ARM platform with the nexus 7 and run many existing applications. Why create a whole new OS with no user application base when there are already viable alternatives.

Dont get me wrong, Android is a great OS for many, phone, web surfing, video playing etc. But I want a standard Linux distro with all the applications were used to. Im stilling my old asus T101MT cause there just isnt another viable alternative.

UDL

Re:Dead last (0)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about 2 years ago | (#42940579)

The extent to which they lock it down and make a Canonical Store the sole vehicle for loading QML app$ onto the device will determine its appeal.

As long as it's a standard ARM-based distro that one can run, say, GIMP and emacs under E17 (via external inputs and display) then everyone should be happy. But if it's akin to Windows RT, where only store-purchased apps can run then it's appeal is limited.

if i wanted to be spied on... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940057)

i'd just buy a chromebook.

For the impatient ones (4, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42940059)

If you don't want to wait the countdown, there's already a high-res photo [hashemartworks.net] of the device available.

Re:For the impatient ones (4, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#42941245)

Uh oh. Problems.

It has rounded corners.

What's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940151)

The Ubuntu flamethrower?

/kick Unity (0)

Turmoyl (958221) | about 2 years ago | (#42940173)

If you think Unity is horrible on the desktop, just wait until you have to interact with it on a small screen. This is just one more nail in coffin of Ubuntu on anything other than servers, where there is no GUI or sound system for them to screw up.

Open hardware? (3, Insightful)

pr0nbot (313417) | about 2 years ago | (#42940261)

The most exciting thing about an Ubuntu tablet would be if it means open source drivers for all the hardware. A reference tablet that anyone can install OSS onto would be great for tinkerers. (Or is the Nexus 7 already this?)

Re:Open hardware? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940811)

The most exciting thing about an Ubuntu tablet would be if it means open source drivers for all the hardware.

It doesn't. It's gonna be a typical ARM SoC with blob drivers.

What keylogger? (0)

hduff (570443) | about 2 years ago | (#42940281)

What keylogger will they be running on this one?

It's one thing to have ubuntu on a tablet (2)

Duncan J Murray (1678632) | about 2 years ago | (#42940371)

but it's another thing to have an interface that will work on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen a style blueprint for ubuntu phones/tablets interface yet, only that it'll run on QT. Personally, I'd like a full gnu/linux stack on a phone (and I use the N900), but I just don't see how Canonical are going to compress the years of tinkering done by apple, android and maemo to make a consistent touch-friendly interface that works on a small device. I'm ready to be surprised, but I think most of us are going to be disappointed.

I think Jolla looks promising, although they've a lot to prove, and at the moment there is way more hype and vapour than substance.

HTC has same countdown (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42940409)

Re:HTC has same countdown (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42941439)

but one minute ahead?

Re:HTC has same countdown (1)

MurukeshM (1901690) | about 2 years ago | (#42942361)

Nope, shows the same time for me.

Re:HTC has same countdown (1)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 2 years ago | (#42943145)

Mine shows htc 3 minutes ahead of Canonical. WTF?

Re:HTC has same countdown (1)

CodeheadUK (2717911) | about 2 years ago | (#42942867)

Does the green '1' in the countdown have any significance?

Green makes me think Android.

Most Ubuntu users won't need it (1, Funny)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#42941037)

they already had their desktop crippled into a near-useless tablet by Unity

Re:Most Ubuntu users won't need it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42942355)

My mother said the same thing when they went from WordPerfect to Word...

Re:Most Ubuntu users won't need it (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 2 years ago | (#42943251)

You know, it is trivial to use something other than Unity on Ubuntu.

There are also kubuntu and xubuntu if you want to start with something else from the get go.

I use xfce myself.

Tablet (1)

jrumney (197329) | about 2 years ago | (#42941455)

Here I was hoping that it meant they were finally going to take their medication, and cure themselves of the disease that has given us Unity, Shopping Lens and other mistakes of the last couple of years.

So Ubuntu is trying to pull an Windows 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42942239)

And fanboys are too dumb to see it.

They are trying to do exactly what Windows 8 is trying to do (poorly) by unifying desktop an Mobile under the same crappy Window manager and bloated kernel.

Re:So Ubuntu is trying to pull an Windows 8 (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 2 years ago | (#42943241)

If you don't like Unity on the PC, you don't have to use it.

Unlock it, root it and install (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42942769)

CrunchBang and it will run several times faster. #!

Announcing tomorrow, question mark? (3, Funny)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 2 years ago | (#42943265)

Dear submitter,

Had you bothered to go actually look at the countdown timer, you would have seen the words "Tick, tock, tablet time!" in large print right there in front of your face, and you would have known to end the title of your summary with a period instead of a question mark, and avoided the whole "let me go make myself look like an ass on Slashdot" thing.

Thank you for your time.

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