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Teacher Suspended For Reading Ender's Game To Students

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the it's-the-teachers,-they're-the-enemy dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Forbes reports that a middle school teacher in South Carolina has been placed on administrative leave for reading sci-fi classic Ender's Game to his students. According to blogger Tod Kelly, '[A parent] reported him to the school district complained that the book was pornographic; that same parent also asked the local police to file criminal charges against the teacher. As of today, the police have not yet decided whether or not to file charges (which is probably a good sign that they won't). The school district, however, appears to agree with the parent, is considering firing the teacher and will be eliminating the book from the school.'"

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"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (5, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416433)

Well there was that scene where Ender shows up at Petra's dorm wearing a sleeveless jean jacket with a utility belt and says that he heard the cable was broken ... or wait, am I confusing Ender's Game with Logjammin'? I mean, clearly, they're basically the same thing.

Re:"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416515)

He fixes the cable?

Re:"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416581)

cable is another sleazy metaphor.

Re:"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416777)

Don't be fatuous Jeffery.

Re:"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (5, Insightful)

DrGamez (1134281) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416525)

They are ok with literal genocide committed by a child soldier, but the moment the kid has to take a shower (and fight a bully), NOW it's pornographic?

I don't want to live on this pl- no. I don't want THESE people to live on my planet anymore.

Re:"I Heard Your Giant's Drink Game is Broken?" (4, Funny)

chispito (1870390) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416799)

They are ok with literal xenocide committed by a child soldier, but the moment the kid has to take a shower (and fight a bully), NOW it's pornographic? I don't want to live on this pl- no. I don't want THESE people to live on my planet anymore.

FTFY for all nerdkind.

Put them to work (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416455)

We need to find something to do for these people who just sit at home waiting for things to get outraged at (a.k.a. the “volleyball is exclusionary and tag promotes violence” types).

Some probably poses at least basic intelligence and education. Surely there is some way they can be made a useful part of our society. I think if they had something productive to focus on, we wouldn’t hear about stupid shit like this as often.

On a more serious note, I get that some people get off on being outraged/protesting/fighting something. We all know people like this. In a lot of cases they aren’t even really into the cause, they just like being behind something. When they have kids, it’s like a whole new world of stuff to complain about is opened up.

I’m sure this isn’t the first time the school has heard from her (ok, I’m gonna be sexist.. but this _has_ to be the Mother (Mother with a capital "M".. you know the type..)). You don’t go from 0 to this. I just wish these people would think about everyone else they hurt when they indulge their need to whine and at least try to put that energy into something more helpful to the world.

Re:Put them to work (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416517)

The problem isn't the outrage, it's that it's aimed at useless targets. By and large, the bigger problem with our society is complacency. When we really need outrage, e.g., to put bankers in jail for their crimes, the same busibodies are nowhere to be found.

Re:Put them to work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416659)

That's a really good point, actually.

Re:Put them to work (4, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416725)

The thing about protesting that kind of thing, is you put yourself at risk. This is largely why I am part of that complacent mass. I have a job, a home, a bright looking future. I think there's lots of problems with the world that should be fixed, but I sure as hell am not going to risk losing what I have. The only people who can protest this stuff are people who don't have much to begin with, and they just get shrugged off as "jobless hippies". It's actually a suspiciously well engineered little system.

Calling up the school in a huff because the cafeteria serves junk food on the other hand.. very low risk for the bored stay at home mom..

Back to the Future (3, Insightful)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416457)

I'm glad to see "book burning" is alive and well in America. I guess that's what the conservatives mean by restoring America. Now we just need to find some really cheap labor.

Re:Back to the Future (5, Funny)

getto man d (619850) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416493)

Now we just need to find some really cheap labor.

Think of the children!

Re:Back to the Future (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416575)

How ignorant.. Not one mention of political side and you just jump right on the bandwagon.

With people like you, cheap labor will be easy to find.

Re:Back to the Future (0)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416649)

Deserves moderation.

Re:Back to the Future (1, Redundant)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416637)

The European Union isn't any better when it comes to censoring books or the teachers. See my sig:

Heh, I just recommended this book (2)

wjhoffman1983 (1145155) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416465)

to my 55 year old mother in law. I hope she doesn't go in to cardiac arrest.

Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416471)

I'm drawing a blank here but about the only thing I can think of that would qualify as close to pornography is the part where Ender beats the shit out of that bully and the book talks about how his medical sheet reads "bruised testicle." Which, if two adolescent boys bruising up each other's private parts arouses you in anyway, you are probably the one that needs help.

The other possibility is that the book is too descriptive in some parts (maybe when Ender burrows into the giant's eye in the simulation?). And they're in ye olde Southern Cackalacky where the definition of pornography is just anything that gets too descriptive for their comfort. So, you know, like anything that's written well.

Or perhaps one of the parents caught wind that Orson Scott Card is Mormon and different and therefore evil. And then they looked up the White Horse Prophecy and put ... wait, that's already far more reading and research than this individual is capable of.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416511)

If that's the complaint, then good thing the teacher didn't read Ender's Shadow, with its visions of a naked kid crawling around in the station's ventilation system. That would warrant at least 25 to.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416641)

At one point two naked boys crawling around, one ending up in a position of obvious (to religious idiots) homoerotic bondage.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (5, Funny)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416697)

"Remember, the enemy's pants are DOWN!"

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (5, Informative)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416541)

As usual, this case has been discussed in other places first. IIRC the "bruised testicle" was part of what the bitching is about.

We're in a bad spot in our society when these idiots aren't laughed out of the office. Let the freak homeschool her precious snowflake and stop being a burden on us.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416571)

My guess is it was the scene where Ender and another bully at battle school are fighting in the hot, steamy showers in all the soapy, naked goodness that god gave them.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416605)

again you are asking for reason. Don't do that. It's unfashionable.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

rcuhljr (1132713) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416585)

I followed three links deep and couldn't find anywhere that actually said what the 'pornography' claim is based on. I haven't read it since college but I can't think of anything that would fall under the term pornography.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

HeckRuler (1369601) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416587)

My memory is only so so, but there's also the bit about Ender complaining about the order not to wear "skins" (ie, run around in the nude) because one of the team members is female. The leader is a traditional Spaniard guy and Ender complains that everyone there isn't sexualized yet so it shouldn't matter.

And remember, ANYTHING can sound dirty with the right inflection. Good luck proving it without a recording though.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416609)

When ender first gets to his dorm one of the boys is using his tablet to create a holographic genetalia.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416621)

I agree, I have been wracking my brain to think of anything that could possibly be pornographic. It's possible that the parent is threatened by the thought of an alien species that is not "life as we know it" or "made in the image of god" or some other retarded bullshit but man really, it seems like this person should have bigger fish to fry than whether their kid is learning a little about science fiction.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

yodleboy (982200) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416651)

yeah, i'm at a loss here. The only one that comes to mind is when Ender get's put in Bonzo's army and shares a shower with Petra (and the rest of the army). However, he's told not to do it again and that's it from then on. Jesus, Ender even says it's a stupid rule, she still looks like a boy.

If you find their chit chat during a shower, or any of the dialogue after that as "pornographic" then you should not have nor be around children because you are a perv. Seriously, these kids are what, 7 or 8 at this point in the book? I really think some people are afraid to walk by the mirror after getting out of a shower because they might see "pornography".

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416657)

I have not read it in a number of years but there is the fight scene in the showers, where they kids would be naked. Which is a fight, its not a sex act, so I would say its not pornographic. I do think there are some other references to nudity in the dorms at Battle School, again only pornographic if you already have a pretty perverse imagination about what say takes place in a mens locker room normally.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (2)

i_ate_god (899684) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416661)

Wasn't there a lot of child nuditiy in Ender's Game?

I haven't read the book in a while, but I remember thinking "that's going to be... a tricky movie to make" when there was news of a possible Ender's Game movie.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

mikeru22 (1222780) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416673)

Well, Ender sleeps naked and is described as taking his clothes off to go to bed. That's obviously what PORN is, right?! Some housewife needs something more productive to do with her free time...

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

dubbreak (623656) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416701)

Or perhaps one of the parents caught wind that Orson Scott Card is Mormon and different and therefore evil.

That was my guess. "Hey the guy that wrote that is a Mormon! Whatever he writes must be trying to convert our precious Christian children!!"

Of course anyone who has read the book knows it doesn't have a Mormon perspective (let alone push one).. actually I don't remember any religious references, themes or any particular religious viewpoint.

Re:Good Ole Southern Cackalacky (1)

Peter Simpson (112887) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416781)

I wonder if the book is in the school library?

if this... then whats next (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416485)

if this, then Shakespeare has got to go as well.

Re:if this... then whats next (5, Insightful)

Jawnn (445279) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416639)

if this, then Shakespeare has got to go as well.

Not to mention several books from The Old Testament.
Idiots...

Re:if this... then whats next (1)

228e2 (934443) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416775)

+1 Insightful . . . .

For the Children (5, Funny)

TemperedAlchemist (2045966) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416487)

The school district reports that the letters E, I, N, P, and S have been removed from the school curriculum after a parent complained her son was being exposed to gateway pornography.

Re:For the Children (5, Insightful)

robably (1044462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416709)

So no more penis, but also no spine.

WE HAVE GONE (1)

DrGamez (1134281) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416489)

TOO FAR.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD TODAY?
Please someone give this teacher a prize for reading Ender's Game to children, it was my favorite book and it brought (to my life) a way of thinking critically about my actions that I've never had cross my mind until reading it.

There's this little problem with Ender's Game (2, Insightful)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416495)

Ender is a school child who kicks another school child to death in the school bathroom. Nobody has any question that it's happened, but not much seems to happen to Ender because of it.

Because of this particular scene in the book, I've always felt that it should not have been promoted as a children's book. I have also felt that Orson Scott Card is, IMO, unsavory for cooperating in promoting it as a children's book.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416555)

Good lord, it's not a childrens book at all, no one's arguing that. The students being read to weren't exactly second-graders though.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (1)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416597)

Anonymous Coward wrote:

Good lord, it's not a childrens book at all, no one's arguing that. The students being read to weren't exactly second-graders though.

Go look in your bookstore children's section. Or even on lists of science fiction books recommended for children. I'm not kidding.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (1)

rcuhljr (1132713) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416669)

Because it's a great children's book? I read it in third grade the first time.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416733)

I read "1984" in the fifth grade. Is it a kid's book?

You're right (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416787)

Good lord, it's not a childrens book at all, no one's arguing that. The students being read to weren't exactly second-graders though.

It's a book written at a fifth-grade reading level for illiterate /man/children. Clearly, this is literature's deathblow.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (5, Insightful)

ScuzzMonkey (208981) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416577)

Hansel and Gretel shove a little old lady into on oven and broil her, and that's been broadly accepted as children's fare for two hundred years. A little justifiable homicide shouldn't be a big issue all of a sudden.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (5, Interesting)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416739)

I remember reading "Lord of the Flies" as a school assignment, as well as "The Jungle", and "Jude the Obscure".

If those aren't banned yet, then I don't see why they would bother with such a tame offering as "Ender's Game".

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416815)

The GP is forgetting that violence is A-OK, it's sex -- or even just sex organs -- that are going to bring the downfall of society should children ever find out about them.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (1)

Saphati (698453) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416595)

Perhaps we should black list Orson Scott Card and prevent him from being with 10 meters of a child. Let's prevent him from being alone with his grand children. Hey! This is America! We can just lock him up! Let's do that.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416599)

BULLIES SHOULD DIE, ON THE MOMENT OF ATTACK.

The story tells of a bullies tries to kick down another student.

If USA had more cases of Bullies die on there attack, USA would be a better place. MUCH BETTER!

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (2)

BagOBones (574735) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416607)

That makes if violent, not pornographic.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (2)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416613)

I was thinking along the same lines, the violence in the book between school kids makes the book inappropriate for children. I can not, however, think of any scenes that qualify as pornographic. It may be that the school district does not consider it pornographic, but agrees with the judgement that it is inappropriate for children and suspended the teacher for that reason.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (4, Insightful)

AshPattern (152048) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416619)

The bully was already dead when kicked. He hit his head accidentally on a knob.

Time to read the book again :)

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (2, Insightful)

Niris (1443675) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416643)

In middle schools all over California children are reading Of Mice and Men. The characters in that shoot a guy in the back of the head, fight, and drink. They also introduce Shakespeare during freshmen year of high school. We might as well ban reading and literature so that we can sink all types of education in America, not just math. WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416653)

When I was in middle school, we watched movies like the Patriot as part of class and we read books like Weasel... there's a lot more violence and fewer consequences in those than in Ender's Game. I thought Ender's Game put that scene, and Ender's own feelings about it, in a fairly realistic light.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (4, Insightful)

Xeth (614132) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416687)

Card is certainly unsavory, but I am curious why you think it shouldn't be promoted as a young adult book. Many of those books involve violence, often without consequences (e.g The Lottery short story). I personally think that scene makes a great discussion point; people should understand why Ender wasn't punished, and that could frame an interesting ethical discussion. I think the target audience for Ender's Game is old enough that they can understand that not everything that happens (in a book or reality) is just.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (4, Informative)

chispito (1870390) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416749)

Ender is a school child who kicks another school child to death in the school bathroom. Nobody has any question that it's happened, but not much seems to happen to Ender because of it.

Because of this particular scene in the book, I've always felt that it should not have been promoted as a children's book. I have also felt that Orson Scott Card is, IMO, unsavory for cooperating in promoting it as a children's book.

Spoiler alert: it's a pattern that foreshadows what happens at the end of the book. He lashes out in self defense against threats to his survival (or perceived threats) and immediately regrets it. It's not his fault that he kills. It is the fault of those who manipulate him and his peers so that these life-or-death conflicts keep occurring, without outside intervention.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416761)

What will you do if all your problems aren't solved by the time you die?.

Don't forget the violence.

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (2)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416801)

Let's also Ban Moby Dick, because the title has profanity!

Re:There's this little problem with Ender's Game (3, Informative)

Zak3056 (69287) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416819)

Ender is a school child who kicks another school child to death in the school bathroom. Nobody has any question that it's happened, but not much seems to happen to Ender because of it.

Nothing happens to Ender, legally--he's a child, and has been placed in that situation by the authorities, who are pretty much hoping for the response that they get. Later on (either at the end of Ender's Game, or in Ender's Shadow) it's revealed that Graff was indeed court-martialed for the deaths of both Bonzo and Stilson, though he is acquitted because of his statements that the war would have been lost if not for his actions in turning Ender into the weapon that humanity needed.

Graff aside, Ender did most certainly suffer for those deaths, and the billions more that he caused. Mentally, emotionally, and, later, being equated to another Adolf Hitler by the very people he saved.

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416499)

Pornographic? Ah. I must have skipped that scene when Sasha Grey was killing the Bugs. Maybe the Mother confused the Starship Trooper movie with Ender's Game? Look, let's all just ban Huckleberry Finn and be done with it. Also, all the references to Fahrenheit 451 can suck my big left one. That was a boring movie.

What. The. Fuck. (5, Insightful)

Iamthecheese (1264298) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416503)

People who try to ban things "because someone might be offended" are themselves the problem. And it is a wide-spread and serious one.

I only hope we can get over this state of permanent panic before it kills us.

Pornographic? (0)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416513)

I finally got around to reading Ender's Game a few months ago. I don't remember anything remotely pornographic in it. Besides, it's middle school... around the same time most schools start sex ed anyway. At any rate, firing the teacher would be more than sufficient if the school decides it was a major no-no.. criminal charges is beyond ridiculous.

Re:Pornographic? (5, Insightful)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416623)

At any rate, firing the teacher would be more than sufficient if the school decides it was a major no-no.. criminal charges is beyond ridiculous.

Firing the teacher would be absurd, criminal charges would be truly insane. The former only seems in any way legitimate because of the total insanity of the latter - not for one second does a teacher deserve to lose their job for reading a perfectly innocuous (and pretty damn good, IMO) scifi novel to a class of 14 year olds.

The USA is broken. It can't be fixed. (3, Insightful)

Saphati (698453) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416527)

The USA is pathetic. I am glad I emigrated.

It IS pornographic and should be BANNED (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416531)

It shows society naked. That IS pornographic.
It talks about relationships between siblings, teaches children to think critically, demonstrates adults can and do lie, shows how society is and can be manipulated by media and wont some please think of the children harmed by the reading of this terrible book !!!!

'Murica.. fuck yeah!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416535)

WTF is wrong with people? Are we going to have to resort to some sort of white list that kids will be able to read from?

The school district's response: the customer is always right...

Porn? (4, Insightful)

Sperbels (1008585) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416537)

There was some violence in that book, yes. But was there anything sexually graphic? I can't think of anything. I don't even think there was an profanity. Can anyone think of anything that even comes close to being pornographic?

Good times. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416543)

And the public school system continues to show itself more and more worthless by the day... even to the point of actually becoming detrimental to your children's education. Good times.

When I was in High School... (5, Interesting)

tekrat (242117) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416551)

We read Candide. That's gotta be way more "pornographic" than Ender's Game. What is this country coming to?

Between Santorum, Limbaugh and the rest of those jokers bible thumping their way into our bedrooms but refusing to even tax one cent of a rich person's income (because that's government intrusion), this country is really and truly fucked.

We're going to be like Argentina, and the shooting in Florida is proving that there are now only gated communities and trailer parks -- and if you're the wrong color in a gated community, you are a target.

Re:When I was in High School... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416765)

>> Between Santorum, Limbaugh and the rest of those jokers bible thumping their way into our bedrooms but refusing to even tax one cent of a rich person's income (because that's government intrusion), this country is really and truly fucked.

You realize that Santorum and Limbaugh have never tried to "thump their way" into anyone's bedrooms. You made that up because you thought it sounded smart...

And NOBODY is "refusing to even tax one cent of a rich person'd income."

Even a cursory look at IRS data shows that to be a false paradigm.

Do you always post nonsense and lies to Slashdot posts?

Pornographic? (1)

Narnie (1349029) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416561)

I recall violence and genocide but I can't recall anything pornographic. Unless reading shower scenes about soapy kids getting into bloody fist fights does it for you.

I wish this woman bothered to read the book before ruining the teacher's life.

Re:Pornographic? (2)

NEDHead (1651195) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416789)

ASSUMPTION ALERT! As if we believe she can read. Actually raises the bigger question - middle school and the teacher was reading to the students? Can't they read yet themselves?

Total failure in so many ways (5, Interesting)

jcrb (187104) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416563)

I think this is one of those things for which there is a simple solution, find name of parent, all Ender's fans call parent and explain what a complete and colossal idiot they are. Problem solved. News report of parent explaining how their phone didn't stop ringing for several months convinces all future such parents to just keep their opinions to themselves.

"Pornography" is supposed to be judged by the standards of the "community", I think its time or the community to judge the standards of those who wish to judge the community.

But the Murdering is fine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416569)

There is asexual nudity, but nothing that could be called pornographic. If I were a parent I might complain about the mass genocide or repeated hand-to-hand murders of and by children, but hey, people will complain about anything given the chance. (PS Im a big fan of the book, just pointing out the warped priorities of some parents.)

Support the teacher (4, Insightful)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416583)

No wonder the educational system is going to shit since any parent can bully teachers. Seriously, if you're so annoyed about the teacher asking your kid to read any specific book then ask the teacher for an acceptable replacement (for your kid only of course). Or take your kid somewhere else. Or accept an F for that specific assignment.

I wish principals grew a spine and supported their teachers on this kind of stuff.

I haven't read it (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416591)

I can't imagine what the problem could have been. I've only read one of the books in the series (Shadow Puppets) and that was tame to say the least. Anyone know for sure what could have been construed as pornographic? If it is a bit more 'grown-up' in general I might consider giving it a try!

Wow (4, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416617)

Bet this kid is popular.

He's 14 and running home to mommy because a book had naughty words in it..

I can see a parent running across the book and going full on "I'M A MOTHER, AND AS A MOTHER I FEEL.." mode while the kid stands there horribly embarrassed .. but for the kid to be the one who started it all... kid must be living in a bubble.

Re:Wow (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416791)

By 'naughty words' do you mean cursing/swearing? Some people seem to think swear words are pornographic despite the fact that they are not.

RE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416627)

Too many uptight parents ruin things for other people.
It's not like the kids are being indoctrinated.

OSC Opinion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416633)

I'm just curious to see if Orson has anything to say about this in his column this or next week... http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-Columns-c-2012-03-14-211324.112113-John-Carter-Cowfish-Lights-ToshO.html

I'll get flamed for this, but . . . (0)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416645)

I came across Ender's Game at a used collectibles place and started to read it. Maybe it's just me (yeah, go ahead and say it), but I read the first several pages and just couldn't get into the story. My interest wasn't piqued.

Having said that, I picked up Ringworld at a library sale (50 cents) and it took until page 68 for me to get involved with the story.

Maybe the same thing with EG. Comments? Suggestions? Flames? Heresy attacks?

Re:I'll get flamed for this, but . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416745)

It does start out admittedly slow, if you are expecting more of an action story. But its really a Tragedy/Drama type story, rather than the bug space epic you might expect at first.

Maybe he wasn't really reading Ender's Game (5, Interesting)

cicatrix1 (123440) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416663)

Check out some of the comments on the source article [aikenstandard.com] . There are claims he was not really reading Ender's Game, and that the school is covering it up.

Damn good that it is banned.. (1)

CaptainOfSpray (1229754) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416665)

especially for being pornographic. That guarantees lots of kids will read it. Since it's slightly better written than most other trash kids read, maybe the ban will have a [slight] positive outcome.

My, how things have changed... (1)

GlennC (96879) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416667)

I recall reading the original short story in middle school. It was in one of those "Weekly Reader" type magazines that apparently aren't around any more. Then again, I grew up in suburban Chicago, which is definitely different from the South.

As a sixth grader, I found the story interesting. When I read the novel as an adult, I was rather less impressed. I think that Card is much better with short stories than with novels.

Law of Unintended Consequences (5, Interesting)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416679)

Not too long ago, we had a similar issue here when a local religious fanatic [usatoday.com] (who home schools his children, BTW) demanded the local high school ban, among others, Kurt Vonnegut's classic Slaugherhouse V, claiming it too was pornographic in nature.

The school ended up bowing to the holier-than-thou asshole and banned the book; however, doing so had the unexpected side effect of Slaughterhouse V becoming the most read book in the city of Republic. The Vonnegut Library even donated several hundred copies of the book to the local library, all of which were swiftly checked out.

Experience tells me Ender's Game is about to become the most read book in Shofield, SC.

It must be . . . (1)

baudilus (665036) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416683)

. . .the shower fight scene - that's the only point in the book that could be construed as even remotely pornographic. The word itself means 'designed to arouse lust.' At any rate, I think the parents in this case should justify their complaint with the offending excerpt from the book and explain why they think it's worthy of jail time. I just can't imagine that the school board and / or police department wouldn't do their due diligence.

Cmon, what would anyone expect? (0)

E_Ron.Eous (2521544) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416691)

It's in South Carolina, reading isn't nearly as important as football.

Obligatory (3, Informative)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416703)

"Das war ein Vorspiel nur, dort wo man Bucher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen."

"That was but a prelude; where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people also." - Heinrich Heine "Almansor" 1821

--
BMO

Was there 3 books or one? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416727)

Read an artice about this here http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2012/03/15/geek-news-classroom-controversy-of-the-day/, and it said there was three books that were read and the Enders Game was the only one that was known that the teacher read. So it's possible that something inappropriate was read to the children if that story wasn't off.

Ban Biology Class Too (1)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416737)

We all know that there is some partial nudity in Biology Class, so might as well go across the board and ban half of what the schools teach!

The day cannot get any weider (1)

djl4570 (801529) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416743)

Sometimes you see or read something that you just know will be the weirdest thing that you see all day. The mention of Enders Game and Pornography in the same sentence did this for me today. I'm having flashbacks to my c1970 ninth grade science teacher dismissing Life Magazine as pornography. I suspect this is a tactic used by religious kooks to suppress anything they don't understand. Since they understand almost nothing the rest of the world becomes a pornocopia.

AwEsome fp (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416757)

As punishment for supidity -- (1)

RichMan (8097) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416759)

The parent should be required to read Lady Chatterly to class of 16 year olds.

They are old enough to legally have sex, they should certainly be able to read about it.

(( on another argument thread why are we so okay with violence (without the red stuff please) but not with sex which is required for out existance))

Agatha Crhistie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416767)

That prurient Agatha:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/20/south-carolina-teacher-suspended-for-enders-game-also-read-students-agatha-christie/

Old News (1)

prodigyx (1829004) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416795)

This is almost a week old. Oh slashdot, how far you have fallen....

teacher read to students? (1)

pinkfalcon (215531) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416797)

I agree - Teacher should get reprimanded for reading that book to the students - middle school students are perfectly capable of reading on their own..

On a serious note: The local High School Honors English class required the students read this book over summer break before school started. I gave my son the book and told him to read it even though it looks like he will be going to different school.

Poor kid (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39416811)

I feel sorry for the kid. I remember what it was like having an ultraconservative parent who launched a Christian campaign against the school librarian. I didn't want to be in the center of that. I just wanted to get something interesting to read. Thankfully, I didn't shy away from my interests or libraries. I just learned to keep my books away from my idiot parent if I didn't want to be humiliated.

google to the rescue (2, Interesting)

buddyglass (925859) | more than 2 years ago | (#39416823)

Here's one guy who thinks Ender's Game is porn [plover.net] , just not the "sex" kind.
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