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Armed Man Takes Hostages At Discovery Channel HQ

samzenpus posted about 4 years ago | from the man-vs-channel dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The manifesto of the man holding the Discovery Channel hostage with a bomb has been released. He has fired shots and taken hostages. His main complaints are about overpopulation, religion and civilization. He wants them to avoid encouraging people to produce more 'disgusting human babies,' to get people to accept 'Malthus-Darwin science,' reject civilization and its 'disgusting religious-cultural roots,' and to stop 'ALL immigration pollution.'" The man has now been shot by police, and the hostages have been freed.

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Get Hell off the Planet!!! (0)

CommieLib (468883) | about 4 years ago | (#33441716)

A new meme is born...

Re:Get Hell off the Planet!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442054)

Hmm. Seems like a teabagger to me. I'm sure he really hates asians, as well.

It's always refreshing (4, Insightful)

gameboyhippo (827141) | about 4 years ago | (#33441732)

It's always refreshing when Atheists are the psychos. I'm mean, c'mon! This guy is a representation of all atheists, right? :)

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33441844)

Every last one. ;)

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

TheDarkNose (1613701) | about 4 years ago | (#33442076)

Wow, did you RTFA? his nutsoism was OBVIOUSLY caused by his use of "WTF." Everyone knows that's a slippery slope...

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

blair1q (305137) | about 4 years ago | (#33441882)

Him and Stalin.

Two peas in a pod. Just like all the other peas.

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

jpapon (1877296) | about 4 years ago | (#33441994)

Don't forget Chairman Mao. Pretty sure he wasn't too keen on religion either.

Re:It's always refreshing (4, Insightful)

Cruciform (42896) | about 4 years ago | (#33442172)

They made Communism their religion.

Dogmatic faith is a monster, whatever guise it wears.

It is the enemy of reason. As soon as people tell you to stop questioning an idea, beware their intentions.

Re:It's always refreshing (5, Informative)

Peach Rings (1782482) | about 4 years ago | (#33441910)

He's not completely psycho. Discovery's (TLC's) support of Jon and Kate Plus Eight, 19 Kids and Counting, etc is disgusting. Those parents should be in jail, not rolling in money.

Re:It's always refreshing (5, Insightful)

Doctor Morbius (1183601) | about 4 years ago | (#33442002)

TLC is the freak show network. All these ridiculous shows about dwarves, women with giant legs, women with no lower body, and families with too many kids are stupid.

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

Cornelius the Great (555189) | about 4 years ago | (#33442026)

While Discovery Channel is paying these families, I really don't feel encouraged to have a lot of children. In fact, because of those shows I'm becoming more supportive of forced sterilization. Starting with the Duggars...

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

Nadaka (224565) | about 4 years ago | (#33441972)

<joke>Not me. I find human babies to be delicious, not disgusting! </joke>

Re:It's always refreshing (2, Funny)

IICV (652597) | about 4 years ago | (#33442004)

No no no, you don't understand. Most atheists are totally for TV shows like Jon and Kate - I mean, where else are we going to get a steady supply of fresh babies?

Next you're going to tell me that I should be barbecuing some cute cows or something. Disgusting.

On the other hand, if you're dealing with an atheist vegan, that's when you have problems.

Re:It's always refreshing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442022)

Let's face it, the guy makes some good points re. immigration.

On the other hand, he misused an apostrophe in point 1, which made me wince.

Re:It's always refreshing (1)

Jartan (219704) | about 4 years ago | (#33442124)

He's obviously a member of the environmentalist religion.

Re:It's always refreshing (4, Insightful)

SpeZek (970136) | about 4 years ago | (#33442188)

He might be an atheist, but he definitely has some very strong religious convictions regarding nature. I wouldn't be surprised if Mother Nature was his deity, in fact.

Wanted... (1)

ShaunC (203807) | about 4 years ago | (#33441738)

Dead or alive!

THAT's the Deadliest catch! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441878)

Forget about the Cornelia Marie captain, this is better than the Alaskan crab seasons! Let's see who can catch the most bullets!

Well... (4, Interesting)

u38cg (607297) | about 4 years ago | (#33441744)

I guess he did his bit for over-population.

Re:Well... (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 4 years ago | (#33441974)

I guess he did his bit for over-population.

China calling... I hear you have radical atheist baby hating wackjob. Discovery...Yes. China ...send him right over.

Re:Well... (1, Offtopic)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33441988)

So did Ingrid Newkirk. She had herself voluntarily sterilized in her 20s.

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442216)

Thank god!

Why discovery channel (4, Funny)

0racle (667029) | about 4 years ago | (#33441746)

Seriously, who holds the people at the Discovery Channel hostage for anything?

This won't affect shark week will it?

Re:Why discovery channel (5, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | about 4 years ago | (#33441900)

Seriously, who holds the people at the Discovery Channel hostage for anything?

People looking for their hostage situation to become a long-running reality series.

Re:Why discovery channel (1)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33441912)

I thought shark week was over.

Re:Why discovery channel (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about 4 years ago | (#33442058)

Rule 1 at Discovery channel:
Shark week is NEVER over.

Re:Why discovery channel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441918)

Seriously, who holds the people at the Discovery Channel hostage for anything?

A disgruntled American Chopper fan?

Re:Why discovery channel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441984)

They are showing too many re-runs of "How it's made", also the annoying Intel sponsorship.

Re:Why discovery channel (1)

Somewhat Delirious (938752) | about 4 years ago | (#33442224)

Suspect indeed. I think this is just a setup to enable them to film their next new series of Most Dangerous ~ in the Discovery studio...

Ok you first... (3, Insightful)

thejuggler (610249) | about 4 years ago | (#33441752)

eliminate yourself first and maybe others will follow.

Re:Ok you first... (1)

matt_hs (1252668) | about 4 years ago | (#33441826)

Indeed. He feels human beings are a problem. Okay, first thing you do is stop contributing to the problem. Ergo, take care of yourself first.

Re:Ok you first... (0)

thejuggler (610249) | about 4 years ago | (#33441866)

Oh well, the police got him first "3 hostages safe, gunman shot, killed at Discovery"
  • http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=2042177
  • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Left Wing Envrion"Mental" Nut
"Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans."

Al Gore's scare and doom movie caused this.
Lee said at the time that he experienced an "awakening" when he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."

Re:Ok you first... (3, Insightful)

jpapon (1877296) | about 4 years ago | (#33442024)

I can understand. An Inconvenient Truth made me want to kill myself too.

Re:Ok you first... (0, Flamebait)

amn108 (1231606) | about 4 years ago | (#33442128)

Yeah well, truth hurts.

Re:Ok you first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442174)

I experienced an awakening reading your post too. Oh, wait, it's just gas.

It's your fault that the room reeks now though.

Re:Ok you first... (1)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33441926)

Ingrid Newkirk first. :p

the manifesto (5, Informative)

Joe Snipe (224958) | about 4 years ago | (#33441754)

is cached. [googleusercontent.com]

It's a good thing... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441760)

... this guy was against religion. We all know how crazy religious people are!

Well... (1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | about 4 years ago | (#33441766)

However crazy he has acted or he sounds, he has some valid points.

Re:Well... (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 4 years ago | (#33441876)

If you take hostages and demand the the UN condemn Hitler, you're still going to be hated and reviled for threatening innocent lives. That is just the way it is and probably the way it should be.

Re:Well... (1)

mike260 (224212) | about 4 years ago | (#33441880)

World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

And made so eloquently [googleusercontent.com] too.

Re:Well... (1)

HungryHobo (1314109) | about 4 years ago | (#33442120)

Even the craziest people generally do.
There's no shortage of simple and correct points which never the less aren't or can't be acted upon because people tend to act in their own short term best interest.
Things like

"there and inconveniently large number of people" true.
"war is bad for people and the environment" also generally true

but then there's problems like the fact that both euthanizing large sections of the population and forced sterilization can cause people to become prone to starting wars to stop you from euthanizing and sterilising them.
Even taking the non-violent approach and simply starting a massive add campaign to get people to sign up voluntarily runs into the problem that pretty soon your entire audience will be made up people who's parents for one reason or another were unwilling to sign up and are so less likely to sign up themselves.

a 5 year old could probably solve half the worlds problems if everyone were willing to actually follow advice like "be nice to other people" or "don't dump poison in other peoples drinking water" and other naively simple yet also technically right advice.

Really? (2, Funny)

KillaGouge (973562) | about 4 years ago | (#33441772)

If he has all of these complaints, he shouldn't have wanted to blow things up. More pollution would have been created by the clean-up and re-building had he blown the building up. I think these crazy people need to think before they engage in their crazy plots. That way, we might listen to them.

This guy... (1)

clo1_2000 (1790952) | about 4 years ago | (#33441776)

needs to take his own advice and remove himself from the gene pool.

re: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441780)

dear crazy guy,

we stoped producing babies (or even trying to) years ago.

the slashdot readership.

Re: (1)

melikamp (631205) | about 4 years ago | (#33441966)

But the work is underway to produce babes [blogspot.com] , right?

Sure fire way (1)

Rijnzael (1294596) | about 4 years ago | (#33441788)

Lashing out in violence is a sure fire way to turn away people sympathetic to your cause and make it easy to label anyone with your beliefs "extremist" and marginalize them. Committing violence is never the way to gain true followers.

Re:Sure fire way (1)

melikamp (631205) | about 4 years ago | (#33441822)

May be gaining followers was not his point. Looks more to me like he punished the Discovery channel, successfully.

Re:Sure fire way (5, Funny)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | about 4 years ago | (#33441942)

Committing violence is never the way to gain true followers.

Violence is like XML -- if it's not solving your problem, you're not using enough of it!

(See, naysayers! We can turn anything into News for Nerds.)

Slashdot/CNN (0, Troll)

Matt Perry (793115) | about 4 years ago | (#33441790)

Is Slashdot trying to turn into CNN now? This isn't news for nerds.

Re:Slashdot/CNN (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441818)

Yes it is. You goddamned moron.

Re:Slashdot/CNN (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441874)

Is Slashdot trying to turn into CNN now? This isn't news for nerds.

...unless it affects Mythbusters

Re:Slashdot/CNN (1)

Cornelius the Great (555189) | about 4 years ago | (#33441952)

I think this being the Discovery Channel has a lot to do with it. It's interesting to me anyway.

Re:Slashdot/CNN (3, Funny)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | about 4 years ago | (#33441958)

But he took over the Discovery HQ! Think of the sharks!

Think of the Froggies! (3, Funny)

srobert (4099) | about 4 years ago | (#33441796)

Won't somebody please think of the Froggies!

Re:Think of the Froggies! (2)

magunning (1177371) | about 4 years ago | (#33442202)

And, of course, the Squirrels.

Thanks a lot, Jackass (3, Insightful)

StefanJ (88986) | about 4 years ago | (#33441836)

This disturbed jerk has provided the Pave the Earth right wing with a new Emanuel Goldstein.

"SEE? We told you all the environmentalists hated humanity! This is all the proof we need that global warming is a hoax and that Yellowstone Park should be sold off to create timeshare resorts!"

Re:Thanks a lot, Jackass (4, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | about 4 years ago | (#33442008)

Now you understand how Right-wingers feel at being labeled 'The American Taliban.'

Seriously, judging any movement by it's most extreme elements is silly.

Re:Thanks a lot, Jackass (5, Insightful)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about 4 years ago | (#33442098)

They'll have to work a lot harder to undo that one as long as the tea party is around.

Re:Thanks a lot, Jackass (1)

jeff4747 (256583) | about 4 years ago | (#33442226)

I didn't realize all of your movement's leaders were the extreme elements.

Perhaps you should do something about that.

Re:Thanks a lot, Jackass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442016)

(Replying AC (and in another browser) to keep the moderations I've already made to this thread.)

You DO realize that you've just countered your preception of the right's ad hominem with your own straw man, right? You think they (we) will equate all environmentalists with this nut job in an attempt to discredit them so that we can pave over Yellowstone? Uh, ok.

You may be surprised to know there are nature-loving conservatives.

By the way, I didn't and will not moderate you. Any moderation that happens to your post is someone else. But, I guess you just have to trust me on that.

Solution is simple (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | about 4 years ago | (#33442154)

You too have to right to speak with tinfoil hat mode so you can say _THEY_ brainwashed the guy/programmed the guy to change public opinion. I mean, who knows?

'disgusting human babies' (4, Funny)

Gorimek (61128) | about 4 years ago | (#33441838)

Invader Zim is back!

Was he a practising M*m? (0, Troll)

bogaboga (793279) | about 4 years ago | (#33441846)

Was he from that religion? Seriously...I wanna know.

Malthus Primer (5, Informative)

CommieLib (468883) | about 4 years ago | (#33441856)

We're talking 19th century economist Thomas Malthus here. His main point was that the food supply only grew linearly, while the population could grow exponentially. Thus, there were only three restraints on population growth:
  • Misery, i.e., war, plague and starvation.
  • Vice - birth control - Malthus was Catholic,
  • Moral Restraint - keeping it in your pants.

Millibrain here seems to have got it exactly backwards (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0901_demands.pdf):

Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race.

I was wondering for a while whether this dumbass was going to make an unexpectedly personal contribution to the zero population growth movement with the help of the local police. At any rate, "Malthusianism" is a perjorative in economics, as in "that's nothing more than warmed over Malthusianism". Where Malthus got it wrong was in not forseeing the economics pressures that drove innovation that in turn increased crop yields so that food supplies could indeed grow exponentially. His reasoning, per se, isn't wrong - but he starts from a false premise.

Re:Malthus Primer (1)

locallyunscene (1000523) | about 4 years ago | (#33442104)

Yeah, given the context I'm guessing his reference to Darwinism is Social Darwinism which has even less credibility than Malthusianism.

Re:Malthus Primer (1)

shoehornjob (1632387) | about 4 years ago | (#33442130)

Somebody mod this guy up because he obviouslt knows what the hell he's talking about.

food supplies could indeed grow exponentially (1)

flaming error (1041742) | about 4 years ago | (#33442142)

...for a while. There are a finite number of atoms on earth, and exponential functions have a nasty habit of approaching infinity.

Re:Malthus Primer (5, Insightful)

Nadaka (224565) | about 4 years ago | (#33442180)

The food supply curve is not exponential. It has exceeded exponential growth for a century, but only by consuming ever increasingly scarce resources to do so. Soil quality and aquifer levels are dramatically declining, soon even oil based fertilizers (that will become prohibitively expensive with peak oil) won't be enough to keep up production.

Malthus was failed to account for technological advances and declining human fertility. But he also failed to account for destruction of the soil and irrigation systems from over production. His ideas were far from perfect, but they do have merit.

His website's text (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441860)

The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:
1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

 

Re:His website's text (1)

SheeEttin (899897) | about 4 years ago | (#33441990)

Jeez, that guy's almost as bad as Gene Ray's Time Cube [timecube.com] . :\

Re:His website's text (4, Insightful)

marcmerlin (48598) | about 4 years ago | (#33442086)

well, obviously the guy was deranged, but some of his points are valid.
The problem is that most countries rely on ever increasing population for their economy to strive and the politicians to do well (starting with social security that is not funded by people other than the ones who get the money).

The world clearly could do better with a decreasing population, but most governments encourage exactly the opposite, so indeed right now humans are going to spread until they've taken over all the resources available and at the expense of pretty much all other lifeforms on the planet.

I'll be dead before then, but thinking about it makes me sad.

But... (4, Funny)

ScentCone (795499) | about 4 years ago | (#33441864)

If we don't have any more disgusting babies, how will we get people to work the boats on Deadliest Catch, or drive the rigs on Ice Road Truckers?

Why didn't he just jump off the building, and then make an immediate appearance on Ghost Lab? He would have had all the air time in the world to rant about "parasitic human infants" if he could make the first ever actually non-BS appearance on an idiotic cable ghost hunting show.

Anyway, let's hear it for the Montgomery County PD for taking care of this clown. Alas, we'll now get to listen to him rant in court, too.

About the Ugly (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 4 years ago | (#33442084)

A funny thing about the Ugly. Many women I've talked too don't view another man as "ugly" in the same way men look at each other. It sounds strange, but it's not so much. What matters to women is that men (any man really) are confident, kind, and authoritative at the same time (charisma). It's a sign of being able to raise and care for children properly. Looks OTOH are nice to have, but low on the priority list of what women want in a man. Perhaps that's why the human race continues to have "ugly" people.

Re:About the Ugly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442196)

I've seen plenty of confident douchebags get shot down repeatedly

Re:About the Ugly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442214)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan#Descent

Genghis Khan is a reason there is "ugly" people. You should realize that sometimes women don't have a choice?

Re:But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442094)

Yeah, if we don't have more disgusting babies, just how will we get people enough to endure the day to day tedium of a meaningless, insignificant existence?

Why, we simply must continue needlessly forcing sentient beings to exist! To the fuckening fields, comrades! We have poppin' wild yeasties to thrust!

Re:But... (4, Informative)

machxor (1226486) | about 4 years ago | (#33442144)

Alas, we'll now get to listen to him rant in court, too.

Only if your Ghost Lab option comes true... Oh and the court decides to start trying ghosts...

The gunman, identified as James Lee, was killed by police following four hours of negotiations but the hostages are all safe, said Montgomery County Police Chief J. Thomas Manger.

Re:But... (1)

ScentCone (795499) | about 4 years ago | (#33442192)

The gunman, identified as James Lee, was killed by police

Excellent. As a resident of the county in question, I'm thrilled to not have to pay for trying and jailing that jackass.

eco-terrorism (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 4 years ago | (#33441890)

I'm sure he would love to set off a few nukes to "save" the planet from humanity. Irony knows no bounds with zealots.

Of only it was for a good cause (4, Interesting)

Daimanta (1140543) | about 4 years ago | (#33441892)

Like making Discovery Channel an interesting channel to watch again. I am not interested in (*City) Ink or in a cake-baking italian. No more seasons of crab/lobster/nessie fishing. I want the interesting stuff back again, learning things I wouldn't have learned otherwise. I will tolerate endless Rex Hunt reruns if this would be the case.

But no, mister hostage taker has some sort of higher goal here. Typical.

Re:Of only it was for a good cause (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 4 years ago | (#33442182)

Hey, just a couple days ago I saw The Last Day of the Dinosaurs followed immediately by Bad Universe talking about actually realistic methods of averting catastrophic meteor impacts. Both were awesome.

There's a lot of crap on Discover these days, but they still have interesting shows.

Busted... (5, Funny)

bugs2squash (1132591) | about 4 years ago | (#33441898)

Jamie Heinemann shot the perp with a potato cannon and knocked him into a tank full of sharks.

A true bipartisan (1)

homer_s (799572) | about 4 years ago | (#33441916)

Well, at least you can't accuse him of being left or right wing:

people to accept 'Malthus-Darwin science,'
don't know what he meant by the 'Darwin' part, but the Malthus part will get him a job in any university

'ALL immigration pollution.'
and this qualifies him to run for governor in any southern state

Did they (0)

SnarfQuest (469614) | about 4 years ago | (#33441928)

Did they shoot him with a shark-mounted laser?

We need to keep up the meme...

The Squirrels (1)

mike260 (224212) | about 4 years ago | (#33441938)

From his manifesto:

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

We must never forget the Squirrels.

That's right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33441944)

We have officially evolved to a time when manifestos regarding hostage situations not only advocate for furry forest creatures, but also contain the acronym "wtf" and employ copious use of the caps lock key. What has our civilization come to?
Also, I thought that Ishmael was *against* forcing people to follow your beliefs because you think they're right, but maybe that's just me...
And finally, I'm pretty sure that the word "oil" isn't a proper noun.

Good (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | about 4 years ago | (#33441968)

The man has now been shot by police, and the hostages have been freed.

Good just in time for Lock N Load with R. Lee Ermey

ROI (1)

strikeleader (937501) | about 4 years ago | (#33441998)

I wonder how much money that bullet saved the taxpayers.

His concerns are valid (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 4 years ago | (#33442020)

Overpopulation, indoctrination, complete lack of concern for other species or the environment, etc. These problems are very apparent and I can't see how some people don't realize this. They just keep having more babies, not questioning the government or authority, and trashing the environment without a care in the world. It makes me sick. I applaud this man for expressing his concerns in the very least.

Re:His concerns are valid (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about 4 years ago | (#33442112)

Overpopulation is a silly concern. The only reason why people starve is because of corrupt governments, otherwise the industrialized countries could easily, easily feed the poorer nations. When Africa and parts of Asia turn industrialized, it becomes apparent that children are more of a hindrance than a help, think about it, while its pretty nice to have 5 extra hands helping out on your tiny farm, it becomes 5 hungry mouths to feed when you become industrialized, 5 large college tuition bills, more clothing, etc.

Not to mention that if space ever becomes an issue people will simply have fewer kids to save themselves space in their house/apartment.

There are legitimate things to be worried about, but overpopulation isn't one of them.

When I don't like a show (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442030)

When I don't like a show, I generally just change the channel. I guess I'm funny that way.

In fact, I believe I speak for the majority when I say that... unless of course the majority of you are stroking your remotes, plotting revenge.

Ambitious guy (1)

cronius (813431) | about 4 years ago | (#33442096)

When Norway gained parliamentary system [wikipedia.org] in 1884, the Norwegian prime minister uttered some (now very famous) words: "All makt i denne sal," literally: "All power [lies] within this hall." The US equivalent seems to be ... at the discovery channel?

Look out Kate & The Duggars (1)

drumcat (1659893) | about 4 years ago | (#33442126)

I am guessing the guy would have had his head asplode had he been to China or India... it would have saved us the trouble. And yes, valid concerns, but a TERRIBLE way going about showing it.

dammit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442134)

He should have complained about their decline into the depths of reality TV. grr

Oh boy. (1)

jpapon (1877296) | about 4 years ago | (#33442146)

Not only was he anti-civilization, but he was also pro-immigration reform, and anti-anchor babies.

Not only that, but he DEMANDED that the Discovery Channel

Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy.

Not to be nitpicky, but I think if the Discovery channel could solve those problems, they would.

You first... (0)

Anomalyx (1731404) | about 4 years ago | (#33442150)

Personally, I think that the people who believe the population needs to be controlled should be the first to go. At the moment, there is no population problem. If it's crowded where you live, then move! There's plenty of space. Ever driven across Texas? Plenty of space there... nothing but space there....

James Lee killed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#33442200)

NBC4 is reporting the armed man James Lee has been killed and all hostages freed unharmed. I (barely) drove by there at 2pm and nearly all of downtown Silver Spring was closed to vehicular traffic. Things are still a mess down there.

He blocks what he seeks (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 4 years ago | (#33442222)

From his rant "There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore."

It seems like if you are all about wiping out humans weapons of mass destruction is certainly what you seek.

It would sure be a lot faster than broadcasting Discovery channels shows on home sterilization (which he also wanted) which seem unlikely to find a huge uptake.

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