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Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the joe-pesci-is-angry dept.

Government 845

stereoroid writes "As of January 1, it is a crime in Ireland to commit Blasphemy. The law was changed in July 2009 to fill a gap in the Irish Constitution, which states that it is a crime but does not define what it is, an omission highlighted in a Supreme Court decision in 1999. To mark the occasion, Atheist Ireland published a list of 25 blasphemous quotations on the blasphemy.ie website, from such controversial figures as Bjork, Frank Zappa, Richard Dawkins, Randy Newman, and Pope Benedict XVI. (The last-mentioned was quoting a 14th Century Byzantine Emperor, but that's no excuse.)"

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I can't blaspheme?! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617474)

God damn it!

Re:I can't blaspheme?! (1)

dwywit (1109409) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617524)

<Brogue>Jesus, Mary and Joseph!</Brogue>

Re:I can't blaspheme?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617548)

Neither of you are ever welcome in Ireland again. You probably weren't welcome there in the first place though really, so it's little loss. Plus their weather sucks ass.

well god dammit (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617484)

jesus fucking christ you have got to be kidding me

Re:well god dammit (5, Funny)

dronkert (820667) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617828)

Yes. Also, a google image search for "jesus fucking christ" is instructive.

Catch me now! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617486)

fuck catholics, fuck protestants, fuck jews, fuck muslims

Atheists Unite... as a religion (5, Interesting)

devnullkac (223246) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617514)

If atheists in Ireland really want to stir up trouble, a group of them should formally recognize that atheism is itself a form of religion, register with the government (or submit whatever paperwork is necessary to make their beliefs protected under this law), and then ask that the law be used against priests who advocate that those who do not believe will burn in Hell, since it's a pretty abusive thing to say about a person and surely shouldn't be allowed.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617542)

Mod +1 Pretty good idea

No, it's a stupid idea... (5, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617614)

...because atheism isn't a religion. Being atheist is simply the state of being without a belief in a god or gods. There is no dogma, no canon, no "book of how to behave", no punishment, no reward. It's just a lack of belief. Atheism doesn't define a person's outlook, behavior, morals or ethics. Atheism is the condition of trundling forward in life without said beliefs. That's all it is. So you can, and you will, encounter atheists who despise theism, atheists who don't care about theism, and atheists that are very interested in it for any number of reasons. Each will have their own way of dealing with life, because, and I am really repeating myself here, atheism contains no instructions of "how to" anything.

As some (very clever) wag has said: If atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (3, Interesting)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617650)

'No it's not! said Constable Visit. 'Atheism is a denial of a god.'

'Therefore It Is A Religious Position,' said Dorfl. 'Indeed, A True Atheist Thinks Of The Gods Constantly, Albeit In Terms of Denial. Therefore, Atheism Is A Form Of Belief. If The Atheist Truly Did Not Believe, He Or She Would Not Bother To Deny.'

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (1, Informative)

stereoroid (234317) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617804)

Who wrote that - Dostoevsky? If you want to know what atheists actually think - as opposed to the BS that religious types tell about them - why not ask them? [asktheatheists.com]

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (4, Informative)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617874)

Terry Pratchett. It's from the novel "Feet of Clay."

Only the view of a theist. (5, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617852)

I don't deny anything. I simply don't believe, because I've never seen anything that has even the slightest weight in favor of the various claims of theism. The only thing I object to is the imposition of religious behaviors upon me by the religious. For instance, if they don't want to drink beer on Sunday, then by George, I think that's just fabulous. However, if I wish to drink beer on Sunday, and they move to stop me - for instance by forcing stores not to sell beer to me - well, now we have a problem, and they have just become my enemy by stepping on my liberties. You'll note this opposition arises without any attempt by me to deny the religious their beliefs, or the truth of them, etc.

Religion, like any other highly personal set of choices, should remain between one's self and other consenting adults. As soon as you force it, or material consequences of it, upon someone else, you're pond scum. And that's being unkind to pond scum. Irish lawmakers have today joined this damp, respect-free group.

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (2, Interesting)

zill (1690130) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617694)

s/atheism/Pastafarianism/g

Just claim that in the Irish denomination of Pastafarianism, "God" is the name of the devil and its utterance is blasphemy.

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (5, Insightful)

spottedkangaroo (451692) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617722)

You can't have ethics without believing in a faerie?

Re:No, it's a stupid idea... (1, Troll)

athlon02 (201713) | more than 4 years ago | (#30618030)

atheism is more than simply lack of belief in a deity. consider some definitions:
atheism - assertion that no deity exists ( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism )
agnostic - the existence of a deity is unknown and unknowable ( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnosticism )
skeptic - i doubt there is a deity ( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skepticism - see #3)

therefore, atheism != agnosticism && atheism != skepticism.

atheism is simply the assertion of a universal negative. such an assertion is both unproven and unprovable. therefore, atheism is a religion ( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion - see #2 and #4). atheism is a religion of blind faith. the sooner mankind learns to accept it, the better off we'll all be.

While I am a Christian and do not accept atheism, agnosticism, or skepticism... I at least have more respect for an agnostic or skeptic. why? they are wise enough not to assert a universal negative, which is logically indefensible. I would still argue that an agnostic's claim can be disproved and that a skeptic's beliefs are unwise, but I can at least respect the wisdom not to make the leap to atheism.

And yes, I realize quite a large number of slashdotters do not believe in God, but before you post "yeah, but prove God exists," or "and do you belief in the tooth fairy, big foot, flying spaghetti monster, etc." please consider my argument. I did not say my post PROVES God exists, only that atheism CANNOT disprove it and is foolish to assert there is no deity. the positive argument/assertion for the existence of God is another post/discussion entirely. this post is merely to point out the fallacy of atheism as a doctrine.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617586)

Atheism isn't a religion though. It's like saying not owning a dog is a form of dog ownership. The big argument that religious people use against atheism is that it's a religion that worships science. You know full well how much religious folk like pointing at things and shouting 'See! See! I told you so! I told you so! I was right and you were wrong! I'm going to sing the I was right song!'. We don't need to give the kooks anything else to gum on.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (1, Troll)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617622)

Atheism is a religion. Atheism has everything in common with other religions. Set beliefs, morality, purpose in life, etc. Agnosticism is not a religion because it has no definite beliefs, morality or purpose. Atheism does.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617710)

Please.... this piece of broken logic should then hold that communism/marxism is a "religion" as are any ethical systems. Religion has supernatural components - atheism doesn't.

Next we'll redefine "science" to include Creationism as part of the circus act.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (4, Informative)

decoy256 (1335427) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617826)

Not to be argumentative, but communism was actually preached as a kind of religion with all the religious fervor trappings that go along with.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617854)

In Soviet Russia the god's blaspheme you!!!

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30618010)

this thread has reached it's pinnacle, it's all downhill from here.

you know hitler was an athiest

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30618000)

Communism is a form of statism which is a religious idea that replaces God with the State. Instead of God you pray to the State, and it listens, and it takes care of you. Statism is the religious belief that the State can do good. You will be expected to worship the State with symbols, slogans, statues, meetings and parades. Questioning the State is blasphemy and is punished with a lifetime in the gulag, or execution on the spot. It was proven by von Mises in the 1920's that communism could not possibly work, but this is also blasphemy. You need to have faith in the leaders, and if the system fails, it was because someone didn't believe hard enough.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (5, Insightful)

millennial (830897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617712)

Please outline the beliefs of atheism. Please outline atheistic morality. Please define the atheistic purpose for life. If you can't do these, you're spouting bullshit and really out to shut up and let the adults talk.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (1, Flamebait)

millennial (830897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617780)

Flamebait? Really? OP makes a bunch of assertions without defending them, I call his bluff, and I'm marked flamebait. Awesome. Unless, of course, it was for misspelling 'ought'. I blame that on tainted coffee beans.

Mod parent up (0, Troll)

SwedishPenguin (1035756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617840)

Religious fanatics misusing their powers to moderate...

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617920)

Atheism postulates that gods do not exist, which is certainly not provable. Therefore they follow arbitrary belief, same as all other religions. Agnosticism postulates that you can neither prove nor disprove the existance of gods, therefore you should ignore them, same as all the other things it is impossible to reason rationally about. This is the closest to the scientific method, because it does not impose beliefs based on just faith and therefore is the opposite of religion.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (1)

millennial (830897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30618016)

If you are not a theist - that is, a believer in a god - you are, by definition, an atheist - a non-believer in a god or gods. It's a dichotomy. Agnosticism is about knowledge, not belief.

Atheism postulates nothing. And, actually, you *can* disprove some gods. Logically self-contradictory gods, for example, cannot exist.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (2, Interesting)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617960)

Atheism states that there is no higher power in the world. That there is no god, gods or any higher form of life. And such gods cannot exist based on a few arguments.

As such, its a natural conclusion based on scientific evidence that if there was no god, gods or higher forms of life other than man, that the existence of man is to benefit the species of man. To carry on the normal functions of life, to help others of the same species, to then die. Those are the logical conclusions.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (4, Insightful)

millennial (830897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617998)

"Atheism states that there is no higher power in the world."

Atheism states no such thing. It is the rejection of a claim, not a claim of its own.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30618004)

No they're not the "logical" conclusions. They're just conclusions that you've made. Show how they are logical.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617932)

...and not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (2, Interesting)

mog007 (677810) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617950)

Name a single precept or belief or moral that you can say with absolute certainty that all atheists have, non-atheists do not have, that doesn't involve the disbelief in a deity.

Atheism is simply a response to the position of theism. Is "theism" a religion? No. It's an adjective with regard to belief.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617638)

Everyone knows it is not a religion, but in terms of legal recognition it can be. That is to say, it is included as a form of religious belief for things like government census information, in anti-discrimination laws etc.

So, Ireland may already have laws in place to prevent "blasphemy" against atheism. I can guarantee there are already plans in place by some clever atheists/agnostics to start legal complaints against the more vocal religious leaders.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617598)

But to condemn a priest is blasphemy!

Wait...

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (5, Insightful)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617686)

What I don't understand about the blasphemy laws in general is how do religious people get around committing blasphemy against other religions just by pretty much quoting from their holy books whenever they contradict other holy books. Every Muslim will tell you that Jesus is not really a son of God, hence the Bible is full of lies. Isn't that blasphemy against Christianity?

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (5, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617846)

In terms of a strict reading of the text, that is exactly how a blasphemy law would work. Pretty much all religions are, at least to some degree, contradictory to all the others, and so to practice one is to blaspheme against the others. The only groups that could actually function under a strictly applied blasphemy law would be agnostics and the purely apathetic. Obviously the supporters of blasphemy laws(who tend either to be fanatically religious, or strongly of the "Aw, can't we all just get along and never say mean things about each other" camp) don't actually intend this outcome.

In practice, though, that isn't how they are used. In practice, anything that enjoys the sanction of tradition and/or substantial popular support, even if formally blasphemous under the text of the law, will not be charged. Anything that is legally blasphemous and arouses public or state ire will be. Depending on the character of the state and the people, this can either involve fairly vicious crackdowns on minority religions and atheists, or the occasional takedown of fringe leaders within generally accepted religions.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (1)

Bacon Bits (926911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617994)

No, that would be heresy.

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (4, Funny)

Totenglocke (1291680) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617842)

then ask that the law be used against priests who advocate that those who do not believe will burn in Hell, since it's a pretty abusive thing to say about a person and surely shouldn't be allowed.

Except atheists don't believe in heaven or hell, so how can you threaten them with going to hell? That's like threatening me with sending me to the Phantom Zone - since I don't believe it exists, why would I be afraid of you trying to send me there?

Re:Atheists Unite... as a religion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617866)

Is it now a crime to speak of Irish Catholic Priests bumming underage boys and girls? Bending them over and bumming them? Is that a crime?

This should be good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617528)

Okay, an article about a law against blasphemy. I'm guessing we'll see at least 100 posts of blasphemy in this one article now. I'm going to get out the popcorn. This should be fun. Try and be inventive!

Re:This should be good (2, Funny)

Narcocide (102829) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617564)

Wait we have to establish a grading scale first. Most points for the biggest Blasphemy in the least amount of words. How does this do?

Jesus was Buddhist.

Re:This should be good (1)

serene_byte (1187541) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617708)

I'll see your three words and raise you two.... Jesus lied.

Re:This should be good (1)

hannson (1369413) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617734)

How about: Holy shit!

Re:This should be good (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617788)

JFC

Re:This should be good (1, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617764)

I fucked Jesus and the bitch loved it.

Also, the "virgin" Mary loved to fuck horses. Jesus was born in the very manger that Mary used to lie on before the horse entered her.

Also, Vestal Masturbation. [metal-hammer.de]

Re:This should be good (1)

Larryish (1215510) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617956)

Vishnu a Mormon-Muslim Jesus hybrid.

Re:This should be good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30618038)

Fuck God!

Not as bad as it sounds (3, Informative)

jtobin (988724) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617530)

The law was just brought in so that the law matches the constitution (and this was acknowledged by those that passed it). It's written in such a way no one will ever be prosecuted. The only alternative would be a referendum to change the constitution, and what politician wants to seem like they support blasphemy? As well as that, when the law was passed the next referendum was for the Lisbon treaty, and the government wouldn't have wanted to hold the two referendums together (as it'd make the Christian Right more likely to vote, and so possibly sink the Lisbon referendum).

Re:Not as bad as it sounds (4, Insightful)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617620)

what politician wants to seem like they support blasphemy

Hopefully all of them?

Re:Not as bad as it sounds (1)

schon (31600) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617640)

what politician wants to seem like they support free expression?

There, fixed that for you.

Re:Not as bad as it sounds (2, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617668)

I recall that one Christian leader here in Australia opposes laws against blasphemy because to be implemented properly they would have to protect all the religions we currently recognise. And that a lot.

Ireland and Saudi Arabia don't have the same problem of course.

Re:Not as bad as it sounds (1)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617676)

It's written in such a way no one will ever be prosecuted.

That's what they all say... until someone is arrested for it.

Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617532)

God damn it.

Re:Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect (2, Funny)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617988)

More like Damn God!

BTW: Fuck the virgin mary in the ass and cum in her mouth, while jerking off on top of a cross.

yet (4, Insightful)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617534)

another nail in the coffin of the corrupt and incompetent Fianna Fail government (yes the leading party in Ireland has word fail in its name) who voted this in

never will forget what they have done to this country

Re:yet (1)

c0mpliant (1516433) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617658)

I think that the people who would be offended by this are not the people that voted for Fianna Fail in the first place.

Re:yet (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617714)

the leading party in Ireland has word fail in its name

Doesn't it mean something different in Gaelic?

Re:yet (1)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617786)

Doesn't it mean something different in Gaelic?

yes it means "soldiers of destiny" more here [wikipedia.org] which is rather ironic considering that they resided and caused (via policies that made construction industry 25% of the economy, and now its almost wiped out) the terrible economic downturn that Ireland is in now

Re:yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617836)

Loosely: "Warriors of Fal." They call themselves the Republican Party of Ireland -- conservatives, similar to the American duality.

Re:yet (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617924)

Fear, cause they might never leave, and show that everlastingness with a change of their name to: Epic Fail. ^^

This has to be... (4, Insightful)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617962)

The most appropriate story for me to post in, if only for my sig.

It's all about efficiency (3, Funny)

exley (221867) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617540)

Apparently the new "laws" actually just prescribe getting blasphemous sites Slashdotted instead of actively taking them down.

Slashdot... A tool of the oppressor(?)

Attention, religious folks. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617544)

There is no god, and Mohammed is his prophet.

(Awesome, my captcha is "opiate.")

Re:Attention, religious folks. (1)

millennial (830897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617762)

That's nothing. My YouTube captcha was once 'atheist'. And I am. I almost became a believer again, until I realized that YouTube seems to have a tendency to make captchas that are at least partly based on the keywords for the videos.

Re:Attention, religious folks. (1)

dwye (1127395) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617818)

> There is no god, and Mohammed is his prophet.

Beware, for Odin will get you for that comment.

Re:Attention, religious folks. (2, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#30618006)

Yeah, but with just one eye his depth perception is for shit and you can avoid him pretty easily in low light.

This is one of occasions wher... (5, Insightful)

mrphoton (1349555) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617562)

This is one of occasions where the French have it about right, they have separation of church and state. They do not even allow religion in schools in any form. I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617698)

You unholy bastard! They're not forcing their beliefs on you, they're simply trying to "safe" you from eternal burning in hell....

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617742)

I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.

Because your beliefs (or lack thereof) scare them.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (0, Troll)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617746)

This is one of occasions where the French have it about right, they have separation of church and state. They do not even allow religion in schools in any form. I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.

I am all for the separation of church and state. I believe we should start with Saudi Arabia and Israel. But why should you not teach religion in schools? Belief systems are knowledge are they not?

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (4, Insightful)

node 3 (115640) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617858)

But why should you not teach religion in schools?

For the same reason you don't teach astrology.

Belief systems are knowledge are they not?

Almost by definition, they are not.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617908)

I am an agnostic myself but I fail to see how you could teach the history of Europe while ignoring religion.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1)

mrphoton (1349555) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617958)

Sure, I would acknowledge that may be a few lessons on religion would be fine. Much the way sex education is taught. But I think any more than that and it risks turning in to indoctrination. There are so many wonderful and useful things our kids should be learning about, that there is no way to justify spending more time on it. I find the growth in state sponsored religious schools (in the UK) a very worrying trend.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617964)

Religious beliefs are purely faith based. IE; humankind came from Adam and Eve... A Big Flood... This crap does not belong in our schools. They are much like fairy tales.
However, what should belong in our schools is how and when these mythological gods and/or beliefs came to be. Learning the history of these myths will certainly make individuals more aware of how outrageous all these claims are. Education is the key. Not story telling.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617758)

I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.

And yet they're building a massive citizen assisted censorship blacklist for the internet...

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617860)

Funny how everyone forgets the US from the beginning separated church and state. In fact blasphemy is protected by law. France restricts the use of foreign words on signs but the US has no such restrictions. I often hear the US attacked but few acknowledge that we rank high up in personal freedoms even among first world countries. We get a lot of things wrong but many things we get right as well. Odd that Ireland passed an anti blasphemy law given how much church attendance has fallen. The church has far too much influence here but far less than they seem to in Ireland. A stunning country but they do need to rethink church influence in government. Freedom of speech should always trump church wishes.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1)

Totenglocke (1291680) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617912)

I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.

Well, you do realize that by banning it, you're forcing YOUR beliefs on others. No matter how you do it, someone is going to be upset and be forced to do something they don't want.

Re:This is one of occasions wher... (1)

Emphron (658969) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617944)

Well the intent of the new law is to outlaw: "publishing or uttering matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion, with some defences permitted". So the stated objective is not to require you to believe anything, but to require us all to treat other people's beliefs with respect. But whatever the stated intent, it is a very silly law. I am a Christian, in fact, an unpaid minister in the Anglican communion. But I do not want this law, I do not need its protection - and neither does my faith community. I am not even sure that I would not be breaking this law every time I went to Mass, because my recitation of the creed could be considered deeply offensive to Jews and Moslems. The point is, I think, that whatever people may or may not say, the choice about wether I am outraged remains entirely mine. If you speak things about Jesus that I consider offensive, it is up to me to decide whether I am outraged, or whether I react with compassion and understanding. Since Jesus famously forgave the people crucifying him, I am fairly sure what reaction He would expect of me. This legislation seeks to penalise *you* for any immaturity in *my* response to your speech. That seems absurd and utterly unworkable. If a prosecution is ever brought, it will play out in the European Court of Human Rights.

Another step backwards (5, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617572)

...and Ireland joins other butt-ignorant countries like Saudi Arabia, while here in the USA, freedom of speech reigns paramount.

Well, except in theaters, and near funerals, and at political rallies (unless you're in a "free speech zone" some distance away)...

And some art, well, we just can't have people looking at (or even creating) that...

It'd be nice if congress fixed these things. But of course, we have to wait for them to finish their prayers before they can get started. Oh, and the blessing. By a preacher paid for with tax money.

Re:Another step backwards (2, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617646)

We in the US have corporate censorship rather than political censorship. The RIAA, DRM, DMCA, and their likes are pretty powerful tools. Witness Scientology's use of them to remove stuff they don't want out there.

this will be fun (4, Interesting)

DMoylan (65079) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617574)

they banned life of brian making it one of the most pirated films in the 80s in ireland. every body i knew had a copy.

banning something in ireland automatically encourages it.

we'll probably need a blasphemy per comment counting system.

the first person to try and prosecute somebody with this will be the laughing stock of this country for quite a while.

Re:this will be fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30618020)

banning something in ireland automatically encourages it.

At last. An explanation for the rampant buttpiracy committed by papist turdburglars.

As atheistic... (0, Troll)

faragon (789704) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617602)

... I don't care about Gods, but this is a weird thing, trepassing the censorship line (in my opinion).

So: Fuck that Irish law and fuck that Irish fucking God (I apologize for the inconvenience, I'm just Breaking the Law [youtube.com] ).

capacity problems... (1)

ei4anb (625481) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617634)

The server of "blasphemy.ie" has already been smitten by a bolt of lightning, or perhaps it has just been slashdotted. "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."

They should have quoted the Spanish Inquisition (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617642)

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition quotes.

Good work Ireland... (0, Troll)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617656)

Luckily, raping altar boys is arguably nonblasphemous, so this shouldn't affect business as usual too much.

I blaspheme (0, Flamebait)

eclectro (227083) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617672)

How exactly is this "news for nerds" again, and not "news for atheists?"

Re:I blaspheme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617738)

How is this "news for atheists" and not "news for people who don't like their freedom of speech taken away"?

Re:I blaspheme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617820)

I'd say that it's because a disproportionate amount of nerds are atheists, compared to the general populace.

One could say that is because they have thought on it objectively, but I can't say I wouldn't be biased by stating that.

No more blasphemy? (0, Troll)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617718)

Holy shit!

This is blasphemy ! (0, Redundant)

melf-san (1504607) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617736)

This is blasphemy !

Bork quotation? (1)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617796)

"I du nut beleeefe-a in releegiun, boot iff I hed tu chuuse-a oone-a it vuoold be-a Booddheesm. It seems mure-a leefeble-a, cluser tu mee I'fe-a beee reedeeng ebuoot reeencerneshun, und zee Booddheests sey ve-a cume-a beck es uneemels und zeey reffer tu zeem es lesser beeengs. Vell, uneemels ereet lesser beeengs, zeey're-a joost leeke-a us. Su I sey foock zee Booddheests. Bork Bork Bork!"

So since Jedi is a religion over there... (1, Interesting)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30617888)

To come to the end: Can I sue any religion-infected idiot out there who dares to insult the holy flying spaghetti-monster? (E.g. by eating spaghetti in a non-ceremonial way.)

Oh boy... oh boy... ready the lawyer army! :D

P.S.: What happens, if all ceremonies in one religion involve actions that are “blasphemous” in another one? Because my religion involves pissing on every religious symbol out there. It’s called a “healthy brain”. ^^

I'm all for laws forcing me to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30617936)

.... not kill, or rape, or rob people. Stuff pretty much all of us can agree on.

I just don't understand the idea of making laws that are akin to forcing belief in the tooth fairy; or better yet, how it will make the country a better place for everyone. But I'm an American, and so I have a Bill of Rights to protect me from an oppressive majority of faithful people.

Re:I'm all for laws forcing me to... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30618002)

An easier way of stating it would be that laws are meant to protect people's human rights. I don't see how not being offended is a right of any sort.

Jehovah! (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 4 years ago | (#30618012)

Did someone just say "Jehovah"?
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