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Original Futurama Cast Seals Deal With Fox

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the good-news-everyone dept.

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Svippy writes "As we discussed earlier, 20th Century Fox Television was attempting to recast Futurama. As it turns out, this was just part of a big negotiation ploy, and the original cast have now completed their deals to return with the show's new episodes. For those of you who did not follow the story, a chronology of the events and reactions from the cast members are available at Infosphere and Voice Actors in the News. Series creators Matt Groening and David X. Cohen said, 'We are thrilled to have our incredible cast back. The call has already gone out to the animators to put the mouths back on the characters.'"

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Oblig. (5, Funny)

JoshuaSpringfield (984602) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908159)

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

Re:Oblig. (3, Funny)

cardsinhand (1601329) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908243)

I can't wait till I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff.

Re:Oblig. (1)

Rip Dick (1207150) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908333)

me neither

Matt Groening (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908853)

So ah, if he wants his last name to be pronounced like "Greyning" then why does he spell it so that it looks like it should be pronounced "Growning?" Seriously, by what rule of English grammar does "Groe" sound exactly like "Grey"??

It really seems to serve no other purpose than for someone to pronounce it the way it's written, that way some smug know-it-all can correct them by indicating it's not pronounced the way it's written and implying that's the fault of the person pronouncing it.

Re:Matt Groening (5, Informative)

JWyner (653364) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908915)

So ah, if he wants his last name to be pronounced like "Greyning" then why does he spell it so that it looks like it should be pronounced "Growning?" Seriously, by what rule of English grammar does "Groe" sound exactly like "Grey"??.

From the same english rule that allows for words like Phoenix (unless you pronounce this Fow-nix). Words where oe is pronounced as "ee" are from the "ioticized omicron" spelling in Greek, ÎÎ, which was originally pronounced like "oy", but is often simplified into just an "ee" sound or similar.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909311)

A mention of Checkov actor, Walter Koenig, is appropriate here.

Re:Matt Groening (2, Interesting)

drewness (85694) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913243)

A mention of Checkov actor, Walter Koenig, is appropriate here.

And also of House Minority Leader John Boehner. Or Wayne Newton's song Danke Shoen.

It seems to be American English standard for German names that have an o-umlaut or oe (which is the same thing; the umlaut started out as a small e laying on it's side on top of another vowel) to pronounce it like "ay", instead of like the German sound English lacks or even "ur", which is more like how I think most English speakers hear o-umlaut.

p.s. Curse /. and their lack of support for non-ascii characters.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

Martin P. Hellwig (1555589) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910571)

I would say because the A in ASCII thought that nobody should ever need the o umlaut (even this bloody site gets confused over Ã), Germans on the other hand who like to comply to any given ridiculous standard (insert Godwin here) responded by thinking oe is close enough.

Re:Matt Groening (3, Informative)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913345)

Technically, "oe" came before "o-with-umlaut." It was "oe," then it became "o-with-e-on-top." Because of the way an "e" looked at this point in German orthography, it became "o-with-two-parallel-vertical-lines-on-top," which became "o-with-umlaut." This is the same way we got a- and u-with-umlaut. You can see this in old script for "schoen" at Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] : (schoen, scho-with-e-aboven, scho-with-umlautn).

Re:Matt Groening (1)

YourExperiment (1081089) | more than 5 years ago | (#28915377)

Because of the way an "e" looked at this point in German orthography

Interesting stuff, thanks for the explanation and the link.

I'm curious, however. On the Wikipedia page you link to, the "way an 'e' looked at this point in German orthography" seems to be "exactly like an 'n' looks". Am I missing some subtle difference? If not, how did they tell the difference between the two? :)

Re:Matt Groening (1)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 4 years ago | (#28918893)

I believe there have been jokes about lowercase e, u, and n in German looking the same. Here [suetterlinschrift.de] is a depiction of the lowercase alphabet of one old German font.

Re:Matt Groening (2, Interesting)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913265)

That's a very odd explanation, considering "Groening" is a German surname. Here, it is technically "gr" + o-with-umlaut + "ning," where the o-with-umlaut is pronounced like an "eh" sound in your mouth while your lips are shaped like you're making an "oh" sound. However, to make things easier for the Alemanophobes in the audience, we alter it to English phonetics (the o-with-umlaut does not exist in English).

My surname has the exact same sound in it.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

Michael Wardle (50363) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913679)

"ee" isn't similar to "ay", and Groening appears to be a German surname, not a Greek one.

Re:Matt Groening (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28935135)

Or you can just go by how that person wants their name said out of respect. Like nyc's Houston St. is pronounced House-ten because the man it is named after pronounced it that way. W.E.B. Du Bois also comes to mind.

Re:Matt Groening (2, Insightful)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909247)

So ah, if he wants his last name to be pronounced like "Greyning" then why does he spell it so that it looks like it should be pronounced "Growning?"

Why does he spell his last name correctly as it appears on his birth certificate? I don't know why anyone would ever consider doing that.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

oh_bugger (906574) | more than 5 years ago | (#28911287)

what a jerk

Re:Matt Groening (4, Insightful)

drsquare (530038) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909967)

Seriously, by what rule of English grammar does "Groe" sound exactly like "Grey"??

What does English grammar have to do with a German name?

Re:Matt Groening (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28910661)

It doesn't matter anymore. You've been eaten by a groe.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 5 years ago | (#28911239)

Seconded. I believe the original spelling of this name has been 'Gröning', though even modern Germans sometimes use 'oe' for the o-umlaut. Similarly, 'Koenig' is originally 'König'.

Of course, many families seem to adapt the pronunciation and/or spelling of their names to the local language.

Re:Matt Groening (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28912353)

Then his name would be pronounced "Gerning".

Re:Matt Groening (1)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913365)

That is incorrect. The "r" comes before, not after the vowel you're trying to approximate. You could say it would be "better" to transliterate it into English as "Gerning." However, Germans prefer instead to keep the spelling that they traditionally used, I'd imagine. Take note that the umlauted a/o/u are all predated by ae/oe/ue.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 5 years ago | (#28916475)

I think the GP AC is trying to say that the pronunciation of 'ö' in Germanic languages is approximately like 'er' in English. So a possible transliteration could be 'Grerning', but nobody seems to use that logic in practice.

Re:Matt Groening (1)

cheftw (996831) | about 5 years ago | (#28930325)

I found the best way to get an English speaker to make the sound is to stand on a snail. The "ugh" sound they make is a pretty good approximation.

Um, you... You don't get it. (3, Informative)

kklein (900361) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913163)

So much ignorance in your post as to make my head linguist head spin, but this is the sentence I'm picking:

Seriously, by what rule of English grammar does "Groe" sound exactly like "Grey"??

Um, none, for a few reasons:

1) This [wikipedia.org] is what "grammar" means. Clausal structure, etc.

2) The word you're actually looking for is orthography [wikipedia.org] .

3) Finally, and this is a big one, English orthography wouldn't apply to a German name. One of the reasons spelling is so difficult in English is that it is a loanword slut. It hangs around at the linguistic docks, taking any wayfaring word spelled in roman characters home. It is the reason we have one of the largest vocabularies on the planet, but also the reason why spelling is difficult. I'll take it, though. It beats the socks off of the Academie francaise [wikipedia.org] , which exists to keep foreign words out of French in favor of made-up French equivalents that no one uses. It also beats the Japanese system of ghettoization by the use of a different character set for foreign words. And it is simpler than the daunting task ahead of Chinese speakers, who have to find characters which have a similar sound, and whose meaning at least has something to do with the word in question. Overall, English's flexibility and open nature is a key to its strength.

So there's that.

Re:Oblig. (1)

sys.stdout.write (1551563) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908345)

Smithers, there's a rocket in my pocket!

You don't have to tell me, sir.

Did I do it right?

Re:Oblig. (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908463)

Unsuccessful in a heroic and majestic manner

Re:Oblig. (2, Insightful)

russlar (1122455) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909199)

Sweet llamas of the Bahamas!

Re:Oblig. (1)

Krneki (1192201) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910531)

Kiss my shiny metal ass

Re:Oblig. (2, Insightful)

uberjack (1311219) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910867)

It's a good thing it's coming back, because I was about to build my own Futurama. With blackjack! And hookers!

Re:Oblig. (1)

Malaak (1093915) | more than 5 years ago | (#28912271)

Aah, forget the blackjack...

Had to be said... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908167)

Good news everyone!

Historical Reference? (2, Interesting)

Tickenest (544722) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908197)

"The call has already gone out to the animators to put the mouths back on the characters." An Eiffel Tower reference from WWII? The operators purportedly had the elevators working again 10 minutes after Paris was liberated. Very nice.

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908277)

Maybe you should explain how you think the two are related, I took it to mean that he would rather do the show without voices than with a different cast.

Re:Historical Reference? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908453)

I think the parent means that when Nazi Germany took over Fox studios, the voice actors' mouths were taken to death camps. Or something

Re:Historical Reference? (2, Funny)

bunratty (545641) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908541)

It's a joke, son.

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908667)

Not particularly, the joke is that the characters were just not going to be able to speak. Or apparently eat, so I guess that means it would've been a short lived return.

Of course having explained the joke, it's now ruined. In other news, why didn't somebody negate the goodnewseveryone tag? Strikes me as somebody that didn't really get the show trying to demonstrate knowledge.

Re:Historical Reference? (4, Informative)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909065)

Good News Everyone

Phrase from Futurama

Proper usage includes:

"Good news everyone. You are all going to the planet sodomy to deliver some KY Jelly"

After such statements, Dr. Zoidburg may sometimes be heard saying "Hurray!"

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

nofx_3 (40519) | more than 4 years ago | (#28918483)

"Zoidberg", he's Jewish, not the name of a town.

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

cheftw (996831) | about 5 years ago | (#28930365)

"Zoidberg", he's Jewish, not the name of a town.

Well you obviously haven't seen the scripts for the next series!

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

makomk (752139) | more than 5 years ago | (#28916019)

No, goodnewseveryone is definitely an appropriate tag. As in, "Good news everyone! I'm rehiring you all for half the pay" (which is very much the sort of thing the Professor would say).

Re:Historical Reference? (2, Interesting)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910231)

WTF...

On a related note, what David isn't saying is that they have been actively auditoning and recasting actors to replace the original voice talent, so they were ready in any case.

I recorded an actor friend do an audition for Fry and Kif, he was awesome! And he would have been a lot cheaper than Billy West, but alas, it was not to be.

Re:Historical Reference? (2, Interesting)

porges (58715) | more than 5 years ago | (#28912763)

According to Mark Evanier [newsfromme.com] , who's been in animation for decades:

If you're an aspiring cartoon voice actor who thinks "This is my break," think something else. They'll get thousands of submissions and it's unlikely that anyone with hiring capacity will ever listen to any of them. This is, like I said, not the way to really find a replacement. It's just a showy means of intimidating the actors and their agents...a way which costs the studio nothing. They don't even have to book time in a recording studio or have producers sit and listen to auditions. The whole idea is to be able to say to Billy West's agent, "Hey, we've got three thousand demos from guys who can imitate your boy's voice." But I know Billy's agent. He's been at this a long time and he knows how to not be intimidated and to arrive at a reasonable deal.

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 4 years ago | (#28918519)

I agree that it was basically impossible for then to recast the roles, because of the fanboys, it was just Fox going thru the motions.

Re:Historical Reference? (1)

Thumper_SVX (239525) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910933)

Ya know, I think it would be awesome if in the first episode of the new series there was going to be a scene with all the characters without mouths for some oddball reason. Call it a quick "reference" for all the geeks who followed this story :)

Since everybody else is already saying it... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908207)

Good news everyone!

Bring back _The Simpsons_ !! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908229)

This Futarama crap is crap. The Simpsons is what should come back. Phil Hartman especially. He must be holding out for 10 million at least. Also, I like The Who to continue to make guest appearences from time to time.

Re:Bring back _The Simpsons_ !! (1)

Rakarra (112805) | more than 5 years ago | (#28915083)

This Futarama crap is crap. The Simpsons is what should come back. Phil Hartman especially. He must be holding out for 10 million at least. Also, I like The Who to continue to make guest appearences from time to time.

I'd love it if the Simpsons from the 80s and early 90s returned.

Unfortunately all we get are the Simpsons from the late 90s and 2000s.

Re:Bring back _The Simpsons_ !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28915649)

Torrent has all episodes... Seriously --people still watch a broadcast?

Re:Bring back _The Simpsons_ !! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28921759)

Phil Hartman is dead, you insensitive clod...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hartman [wikipedia.org]

Good news indeed (-1, Redundant)

aegis3d (1610027) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908251)

The first thing i heard in my mind was ofcourse: Good news everyone! I can't wait for the new episodes to air =D

Re:Good news indeed (4, Insightful)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908931)

No offense to the voice actors... They're great, of course...

But I'd rather have the original writers back. Any word on them?

Re:Good news indeed (4, Informative)

Svippy (876087) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909575)

Yes.

Ken Keeler [theinfosphere.org] , Eric Kaplan [theinfosphere.org] , David X. Cohen [theinfosphere.org] (obviously), Patric M. Verrone [theinfosphere.org] , among others are confirmed back. I probably forgot some.

Just to give you an idea on what these writers did, I am going to highlight one episode for each, respectively; "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings [theinfosphere.org] ", "Jurassic Bark [theinfosphere.org] ", "The Why of Fry [theinfosphere.org] " and "The Sting [theinfosphere.org] ".

They already did reveal some of the content for the coming production season [theinfosphere.org] at the Comic-Con panel. In case you want to see if they are still on the edge.

Re:Good news indeed (1)

fodder69 (701416) | more than 4 years ago | (#28920019)

But the The Why of Fry was the only good one on that list. I refuse to watch Jurassic Bark since I didn't think it was funny that Fry incinerates his loyal dog. The other two are part of Futurama's slide in space opera drama between Fry and Leela.

That's a load off my toad... (4, Funny)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908257)

Although I knew the only real possibilities were the original cast returning or the show not being made.

Even though we have the proverbial "500 channels", there's still as much a lack of good creative shows as ever, and Futurama fits that bill perfectly. Newt Minow's "vast wasteland" is alive and strong!

Especially since the #1 show "American Politics" got a whole new set of writers but has still managed to get even dumber than ever... ludicrous plots, inane dialog, stories so far-fetched no one would ever believe them in real life...

Re:That's a load off my toad... (2, Funny)

GreenTech11 (1471589) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908433)

Especially since the #1 show "American Politics" got a whole new set of writers but has still managed to get even dumber than ever... ludicrous plots, inane dialog, stories so far-fetched no one would ever believe them in real life...

You realise that was a live coverage of the election campaign? :p

Re:That's a load off my toad... (3, Funny)

scatter_gather (649698) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908439)

stories so far-fetched no one would ever believe them in real life...

Oh come now, this last part is one of the main rules of writing sitcoms. Break it and folks will think you are writing a funny documentary.

Re:That's a load off my toad... (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908677)

You mean the rule just after, leave out any and all jokes?

Re:That's a load off my toad... (2, Interesting)

e9th (652576) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908509)

There's a lack of good creative shows because they draw small audiences. Very loyal audiences, but still small. Some examples that come to mind are Quantum Leap, Firefly, and Arrested Development.

Re:That's a load off my toad... (2, Interesting)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908713)

Hey, I like all those shows.

The sad thing is that many of the most popular shows from the 70s were creative and intelligent (and funny, in the case of sitcoms):

All in the Family, M*A*S*H, Mary Tyler Moore, The Bob Newhart Show... just to name a few. Adult shows written for adults without having to resort to crudity and shock value, well, OK, "All in the Family" did, but it was usually in the pursuit of Making A Point(TM), which it did very well. Sure, there was a lot of crap back then, as always, but it seems to me there is nothing comparable to those shows today.

There are some good mainstream shows that I follow, "House M.D.", "24", "Fringe", well, the latter might not be too mainstream, but it hasn't been cancelled yet. "24" isn't always very intelligent, but it does suspense in a way that most similar shows can't even touch. There's more plot progression and resolution in a single episode of "24" than in a whole season of, say, "Heroes".

Re:That's a load off my toad... (2, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908789)

Don't forget the glorification of torture.

Re:That's a load off my toad... (1)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913381)

I was about to ask the same question. How can you complain about the crudity of modern TV but then mention one of your favorite shows makes torture out to be a great act of heroism?

Re:That's a load off my toad... (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | about 5 years ago | (#28978651)

I disagree. I don't think it glorifies torture. I think it shows a situation where Jack Bauer finds it to be lesser to two evils. I don't always agree with what Jack Bauer does. He's murdered people, not in self-defense, or trying to save the world. He's flat out murdered people more than once. He does horrible things sometimes. He's not a perfect hero (well, he's superhuman in what he can do, but he does morally questionable things all the time. Things I wouldn't do if I were him.). He's pushed by really evil people who do really horrible things. But he also agonizes over it. He is also willing to sacrifice his life over and over, but is eventually saved by a deus ex machina, only to perform another seeming suicide mission to save people's lives, or stop something else horrible, etc. He has also been willing, time and again to accept the consequences of the choices he's made. I don't watch the show to get off on bad guys being tortured. I'd be happy if they eased up on that aspect. On the other hand, if you are dealing with bad guys with no morality and no honor, how much will you handicap yourself to hold the high moral ground? When it comes down to you vs. them, where do you draw the line?

The sad thing about the torture debate in the real world was that there is almost never a situation where things are as cut-and-dried as they are on "24", which is why people invoking Jack Bauer's name in defense of torture, under certain extreme circumstances, made me cringe. I don't support the death penalty for the same reason. It's impossible to be sure enough to justify using it, in almost every case. I think the government is perfectly justified to administer capital when necessary. I just think it's not necessary, at least these days. Similarly, if torture were to be used, it would have to be in situations so cut-and-dried you would have no doubt. That almost never happens. Given that Bush Administration only ever used waterboarding on 3 people, I guess they would agree. Also, can that be considered torture when we subject our on military and espionage agents to it? Something to ponder. I don't support the idea of waterboarding, but I don't jump on the bandwagon that painted Bush and his people as some sort of Dr. Caligula Marquis de Sade Mengele like the breathless left did.

I enjoy "24" for the same reason I enjoy comic books. It's escapist adventure where even though the hero isn't always the paragon of morality, he's always right. No one is always right in real life. I can tell the difference.

Severely reduced pay all around! (5, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908361)

Fry- Can I come back at severely reduced pay?
Hermes- Of course! In fact, severely reduced pay all around!

Let's hope life didn't imitate art. These people are worth it. Heck, I'll even watch the commercials ... in my dreams.

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (5, Funny)

Norsefire (1494323) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908421)

Heck, I'll even watch the commercials ... in my dreams.

You're not a true fan, I'll record the commercials and watch them twice.

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908443)

You're not a true fan, I'll record the commercials and watch them twice.

Oh yeah? I'll record the commericals, watch them twice

and then do it again in my dreams.

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908457)

You'd RECORD them? Fiend!

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (1)

RichardJenkins (1362463) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909081)

You're not a true fan, I'll record the commercials and watch them twice.

You call yourself a fan? I watch the commercials over and over instead of watching the show.

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (5, Funny)

crazyjimmy (927974) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909177)

I act out the commercials. In public. Naked.

:)
--Jimmy

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (1)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913387)

Freedom freedom freedom oy!

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28915129)

Been there. Done that.

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909849)

Heck, I'll even watch the commercials ... in my dreams.

This dream was brought to you by Slurm! It's Highly Addictive!

How? (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913527)

How do you record those commercials that appear in your dreams?

Re:Severely reduced pay all around! (1)

nofx_3 (40519) | more than 4 years ago | (#28918535)

I'd watch the commercials, but I'm too busy watching season 4 of Everybody Loves Hypnotoad.
 
All Glory to the Hypnotoad!

More reality shows!! (3, Funny)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908377)

Almost makes me want to head to the store right now and pick up some Torgo's Executive Powder.

Some Change Could Be Good (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908465)

I always thought Seth McFarlane would be great as Nibbler.

Re:Some Change Could Be Good (2, Insightful)

JoshuaSpringfield (984602) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908505)

ZOIDBERG SEZ: Your idea is bad, and you should feel bad!

Re:Some Change Could Be Good (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913229)

Quentin Tarantino would be a good fit too. Hearing Kif say, "Storing dead Nibblonians ain't my fucking business" would tickle me.

Clagnars Human Rinds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908473)

I am going to run to the store and get some Clagnars Human Rinds

Not only a negotiating ploy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28908519)

but a viral ad campaign as well.

I don't know about you. . . (1, Interesting)

kimvette (919543) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908811)

I don't know about you, but I didn't see this one coming. I mean, Billy West, Katey Sagal, John Di Maggio, Dan Castellaneta, Phil Lamar, and everyone else on the cast are all expendable and anyone can do the voices they do.

Okay, Leela _could_ be replaced, but would anyone buy Leela as Leela with any voice other than that of Peggy Bundy? Amy Wong can be replaced, but why would you want to? It would only serve as a distraction and land you in a JTS category. (for the record as an aside: if Fry and Leela do it, I don't think it'd be a JTS moment. I hope Fry+Leela eventually happens because that can open up whole new story lines to explore)

I know, other hit animations have changed voice actors (Meg Griffin) without too much impact, but the magic of Futurama is like the beatles - the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. It's not just the great writing, it's not just the unique blend of 3D rendering and conventional 2D cel animation, and it's not just the individual character voices. It's the great chemistry throughout the entire team. It's a damn shame Futurama was ever cancelled in the first place (allegedly due to corporate politics) and I don't understand why it was harder to resurrect than Family Guy was. I mean, I know more people who like Futurama than Family Guy (I happen to enjoy both shows, but I wouldn't adjust my schedule around Family Guy like I did for Futurama).

Family Guy offends a lot of people. I don't know anyone who is offended by Futurama. Non-geeks/non-engineers I know who watch Futurama watch it for the low-brow humor (it includes some LCD humor for the low-IQ segment of the population) and while they don't get the math and science jokes they love it nonetheless. Almost every well-educated person I know who has seen Futurama loves it: engineers, doctors, chemists, programmers, help desk workers, architects. The only person I know who hates it also hates The Simpsons, and it's for this reason: he is a graphic design artist, and detests the simplicity of the 2D animation. Unlike most fans, he doesn't see Groening's style as having its own unique charm, but sees it as a hack and as lack of talent/laziness. I happen to see genius in Groening's style; in that he lets the writing and quality of the team as a whole convey the story rather than producing poorly-written, poorly-acted eye candy. If you want eye candy, go see a Disney flick. You'll get dreadfully boring eye candy.

Re:I don't know about you. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28911107)

It looks like assholes with mod points didn't read past the first paragraph.

Re:I don't know about you. . . (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 4 years ago | (#28918985)

Almost every well-educated person I know who has seen Futurama loves it: engineers, doctors, chemists, programmers, help desk workers, architects.

Let me guess; your job is "help desk worker"?

Hmmmm (5, Insightful)

K9black (620592) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908817)

This show was never all that gre-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

Re:Hmmmm (3, Interesting)

Vexor (947598) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909899)

You know there's a full length episode of Hypnotoad on the movie DVDs. Believe it was Bender's Big Score.

Settled through rocking Xtortion. (1)

WGFCrafty (1062506) | more than 5 years ago | (#28908825)

Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool.

i can see the future already (2, Funny)

gracesdad (1558105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909045)

And you thought Family Guy bashes Fox in their episodes?

Re:i can see the future already (1)

Rick Genter (315800) | more than 5 years ago | (#28909563)

Have you seen the recent Futurama DVDs? As in the opening scene of Bender's Big Score?

Re:i can see the future already (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28909597)

The Simpsons has been doing it a lot longer and a lot harsher than Family Guy.

Billy West doesn't get enough work (1)

entrancer (748365) | more than 5 years ago | (#28910789)

Did California use stimulus $$ on "Full Utilization of Continuing Kharacters?" (Sorry, bad spellr)

Good to hear... (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | more than 5 years ago | (#28912541)

...Never got around to watching much Futurama, but glad to hear that they're presumably not trying a recycle-just-the-name thing.

For some reason, the idea of post-crash Lynyrd Skynyrd comes to mind here. (Maybe someone who's further into that type of music could enlighten me on that particular example?)

It's not the whole cast yet (3, Interesting)

LandruBek (792512) | more than 5 years ago | (#28913973)

IMO, unless they get Dave Herman back, it's not the whole cast. That guy is awesome. His regular voices like Roberto, Mayor Poopenmeyer and Dr. Wernstrom are all hilarious, but also he's got range: he can produce amazingly different voices for all those one-time characters he does, whom you don't really remember, like Leela's martial arts sensei Fnog.

Also it's silly to focus just on the voice acting cast. I don't know their names, but I know it takes a huge crew of talented artists and writers to make the magic happen, and I hope all those talented people come back. It would be bad to cut back on the visual and writing talent to pay for the voice talent. The last thing any of us want is 26 half-baked, mediocre episodes. Better the show should end at five good seasons.

Typo in submission (1)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#28914003)

The correct name of the studio is "30th Century Fox."

Simpsons voce cast for latin america (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28919655)

You know what sucks hardly, we at latin america could not get back our original voices for NONE of the simpsons, after 15 years of hearing them, we were given a crappy new cast just because the original team asked to get increased payment, and some credits at the end of the show.

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