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Cocaine Test Prompts Red Bull Removal In Germany

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the but-it-just-tastes-so-yummy dept.

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viyh writes to mention that six German states have mandated pulling Red Bull Cola energy drinks off the shelves after testing found trace amounts of cocaine in the drink. "Germany's Federal Institute for Risk Assessment said Monday that the cocaine level was too low to pose a health risk. It planned to produce a more detailed report Wednesday. Red Bull said its cola is 'harmless and marketable in both the US and Europe.' It said similar coca leaf extracts are used worldwide as flavoring, and a test it commissioned itself found no cocaine traces."

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1st post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088249)

Bootches

She don't lie (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088253)

cocaine

Cool story bro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088263)

Needs more cocaine.

Re:Cool story bro (0)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088277)

British/10. elbows too pointy.

Re:Cool story bro (2, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088345)

No surprise there. Tobacco is legal for sale and it's packed with shit like arsenic and benzene.

Of course, you have folks out there who are banning hemp because marijuana gets people high. But they should go after the malt liquor industry if they want to catch the low-hanging fruit.

There's no way in hell that Old English 800 [wikipedia.org] and Steel reserve [wikipedia.org] are just barley, hops, and yeast. They cause psychotropic effects similar to PCP.

Re:Cool story bro (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088525)

There's no way in hell that Old English 800 [wikipedia.org] and Steel reserve [wikipedia.org] are just barley, hops, and yeast. They cause psychotropic effects similar to PCP.

When stupid, violent people drink malted liquor beverages it lowers their inhibitions resulting in behavior that is, not surprisingly, stupid and violent.

Re:Cool story bro (1)

dosius (230542) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088885)

I can assure you - I drink Hurricane HG (Steel Reserve knockoff) and it has no effect on me.

-uso.

Re:Cool story bro (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089341)

That must be why malt liquor is the drink of choice for niggers.

Hah (5, Funny)

mackinaw_apx (1444371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088289)

So that's how you get your wings! :p

Yo dawg (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088899)

we heard you like tweaking so we put a stimulant in your stimulant so you can tweak while you tweak

Bottoms Up. (5, Informative)

Ostracus (1354233) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088313)

Coca Cola with real Coca.

Re:Bottoms Up. (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088385)

It also has real kola nut in it. I really like the stuff and will be upset if I can't get my fix in the US.

Re:Bottoms Up. (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088487)

You likely won't be able to get your fix in the US. What they sell there as Coca-Cola is just a runny dark corn syrup.

Re:Bottoms Up. (3, Informative)

dargaud (518470) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088511)

Get the real stuff instead: Inca Cola [wikipedia.org] !

Re:Bottoms Up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088807)

What the hell? Why isn't this stuff more popular?
I LOVE bubblegum flavoured drinks / ice cream.

I'm almost questioning if this stuff even exists, going by the number of "citation needed"s in there.

Re:Bottoms Up. (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088935)

I used to get Inca Kola when I lived in Florida in 1996. Then it was sweetened with sugar. I've found it here and there over the years since Coca-Cola bought them. The stuff you find now in the US it bottled in New Jersey and made with HFCS; just isn't the same.

But yes, it tastes like original flavor bubble gum.

Re:Bottoms Up. (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088913)

I mean I have a fridge full of Red Bull's Simply Cola. If they pull it from the market I'll be upset. It doesn't taste like Coke or Pepsi at all, it's a really complex flavor.

Re:Bottoms Up. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088503)

Coca Cola originally contained trace amounts of cocaine and it still contains spent coca leaves as an ingredient (the extracted cocaine is then purified and sold for pharmaceutical use, generally as a topical anesthetic).

Re:Bottoms Up. (1)

icebike (68054) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088583)

From my understanding, it was originally more than "Trace Amounts".

Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed. Coca-Cola still contains coca flavoring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coka_cola [wikipedia.org]

Re:Bottoms Up. (2, Informative)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088867)

>Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed.

What's strange about that is that for about 20 years afterward you could simply go to the drugstore and buy ounces of cocaine.
It was one of the few drugs available that had any effective use at all. Coca drugs and Sulfa drugs, and then all the opiate-alcohol cure-all mixtures.

Re:Bottoms Up. (5, Interesting)

Adrian Lopez (2615) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088529)

Coca cola already contains real Coca, with the cocaine removed. There is only one company licensed to import Coca leafs into the US, and as far as I'm aware they only sell the extract to Coca Cola.

Nice way to get a legal monopoly on that special "Coca Cola" flavor, no?

Re:Bottoms Up. (5, Informative)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088567)

Actually Coca-Cola does still contain real coca leaf flavouring. It has the cocaine extracted by Stepan Company [wikipedia.org] before the leaves are passed on to Coca-Cola.

I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the process is less than 100% effective, either. When you're looking at amounts on the order of 10^-9 grams per litre, it's quite possible that any cola with real coca leaves in (don't know how common they are) has always contained traces and nobody's noticed or cared.

The War on (some) Drugs (5, Insightful)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088335)

If the stated purpose of the War on (some) Drugs is public safety and the prevention of crime (since drug use is handled as a law enforcement problem and not as a medical issue), I'd like to know how this furthers the cause. The brief article stated the cocaine content amounted to 0.4 micrograms of cocaine per liter of the beverage. Sounds to me like anyone trying to use cocaine by drinking Red Bull Cola would die of excess water consumption (anything is a poison given a high enough dose) before they'd feel the cocaine at all. Additionally, if someone tried to extract the cocaine from the drink and purify it, they'd spend a ton of money on the drink and I would imagine, since we're talking about nanogram amounts per liter, the expenditure would have to far exceed what they'd pay if they obtained it from a drug dealer.

Welcome to modern drug hysteria where logic and reasoning need not apply when evaluating potential threats to public safety. Aren't the Germans glad they have a government that's powerful enough to worry about things like this? It's amazing, really. No matter how absurd the drug hysteria becomes, no one or almost no one with any significant media presence is willing to suggest that maybe the way we're currently handling drugs isn't the best way to deal with them.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (5, Interesting)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088619)

I would imagine, since we're talking about nanogram amounts per liter, the expenditure would have to far exceed what they'd pay if they obtained it from a drug dealer.

Should be easy enough to calculate:

Pure cocaine sells for, let's [yahoo.com] say [answers.com] , $30,000 per kg. To get a kilogram of cocaine from RedBull would take 2.5 billion liters [google.com] , or roughly 7 billion 12 oz cans [google.com] . A 24-case of Red Bull seems to cost about $34.80 [bodyconcept.com] , or $1.45 per can.

In other words, to get 1 kg of cocaine from Red Bull would cost $10 billion, not to mention the enormous expense of purification. And all this would only be worth $30,000. It would cost 340,000 times more for the Red Bull than the cocaine would be worth.

As you said, the numbers don't exactly add up. Not even close.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (5, Funny)

euxneks (516538) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089087)

Should be easy enough to calculate:

Pure cocaine sells for, let's [yahoo.com] say [answers.com] , $30,000 per kg. To get a kilogram of cocaine from RedBull would take 2.5 billion liters [google.com] , or roughly 7 billion 12 oz cans [google.com] . A 24-case of Red Bull seems to cost about $34.80 [bodyconcept.com] , or $1.45 per can.

In other words, to get 1 kg of cocaine from Red Bull would cost $10 billion, not to mention the enormous expense of purification. And all this would only be worth $30,000. It would cost 340,000 times more for the Red Bull than the cocaine would be worth.

As you said, the numbers don't exactly add up. Not even close.

There ought to be a Google calculator function for this.

"$30000 worth of cocaine in Red Bulls"

$30,000 dollars worth of cocaine = $10,000,000,000 dollars worth of red bull

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (5, Funny)

hoytak (1148181) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088705)

Sounds to me like anyone trying to use cocaine by drinking Red Bull Cola would die of excess water consumption (anything is a poison given a high enough dose) before they'd feel the cocaine at all.

[Citation needed]

I suspect it'd be because they flew off into outer space and suffocated.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (5, Insightful)

Rob Kaper (5960) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088707)

Aren't the Germans glad they have a government that's powerful enough to worry about things like this?

The war on drugs is a good topic to start not to single out nation states. It's Germany now, but this is no exception. The rest of Europe isn't much better, except maybe Portugal who have actually decriminalised a lot. Even my Holland is slowly turning into a nanny state when it comes to drugs. Let's not even get started about the US, or the rest of the world for that matter.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

jojo78 (640412) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089123)

I guess Sigmund Freud [wikipedia.org] was a big proponent of cocaine.

Had the War on Drugs existed (and been successful) back then we wouldn't have to keep hearing his crazy cocaine induced theories.

: P

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (2, Insightful)

gringofrijolero (1489395) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088729)

If the media keeps its mouth shut, it will be allowed to live. As contraband, drugs are much more profitable to organized criminals in, and out of government. This is no health issue any more than a speed trap is a safety issue. The reasons for this situation is quite simple. But it's more effective to make a moral issue out of it for mass appeal. And it still is very much a racial issue. Don't want your daughter hanging out with jazz musicians.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

saibot834 (1061528) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088759)

I know that this is not the point you are trying to make, but I thought that you'd die from caffeine before the water intoxication kicks in. Interestingly, you are right, overconsumption of energy drinks will more likely result in water intoxication than caffeine intoxication. Here is my calculation:
175mg/kg * 70kg = 12.25g (Wikipedia says that 150-200mg caffeine per body weight kilogram is lethal; assuming 175mg and 70kg as average. Results in 12.25g as lethal dose)
0.2g/l * x = 12.25g (According to Wikipedia, Red Bull has 0.2g caffeine per liter)
x= 62.5l (To reach the lethal dose, you have to drink over 60 liter of Red Bull. I'm not sure when water intoxication begins to be lethal (Wikipedia says 10 liters are problematic), but I'm quite sure that you can't drink that much.)
Perhaps there are other ingredients that are more dangerous than water?

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (2, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088947)

Once I drank 11 liters of water in a single day, without eating anything. By the end I really wasn't feeling good, I literally thought I was dying, but all I needed was a bit of sugar (in the form of coolaid, actually) and I immediately felt better. So as long as you are getting enough sugar (and salt), I think it will take even more water than that to cause problems.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (3, Informative)

andr386 (703803) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089241)

You might drink far more than 11 liters. People who have psychogenic poydipsia often drink more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogenic_polydipsia [wikipedia.org] They feel the urge to fill themselves with water. But after a certain treshold, the water will eventually deplete you sodium serum, and your nerves won't be able to work anymore, ... then you die.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088813)

Germany may bet trying to reduce its association with nations that produce cocaine legally, and "nanogram" levels is not "zero."

Here I was under the delusion that places outside the USA were not hysterical about this stuff. I even thought Germany was one of those places where recreational drug use, while not legal, was generally tolerated.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (2, Interesting)

andr386 (703803) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089323)

They are not hysterical, it's 6 states out of 16 ... And actually it's probably temporary, the article says they removed it "amid concerns over possible narcotics law violations." It's obvious they will clear that up. Also illegal drugs is more of a health issue than a geopolitical war in Europe. And you'd be wrong to think than any European country is more progressive on drugs than say California.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088831)

If the stated purpose of the War on (some) Drugs is public safety and the prevention of crime (since drug use is handled as a law enforcement problem and not as a medical issue), I'd like to know how this furthers the cause.

The "War on Drugs" is a US notion. These are the progressive, benevolent Europeans!

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088901)

It's amazing, really. No matter how absurd the drug hysteria becomes, no one or almost no one with any significant media presence is willing to suggest that maybe the way we're currently handling drugs isn't the best way to deal with them.

Imagine that: the government is incapable of effectively and efficiently executing an complex task. Find any major sector of the government, and you will be able to say the same thing.

I will tell you why I am against legalization of drugs (although this is an unpopular stance on slashdot): because when I have crackheads walking down the street all the time to the house on the corner, I want to be able to call the police and have them be able to do something about it. When my neighbor's meth lab burns his house to the ground, I want him to go away, not build a new, better one. These are not made up issues. Drugs suck. They cause sucky things in society. And a lot of people, probably the majority, feel this way.

So, obviously there are problems caused by drugs. Problems a lot of people don't like. Maybe they don't bother you, but they bother a lot of people. Other people want drugs to be legalized, but if it's going to happen, it needs to be done in a way that at least moderately satisfies those who don't want crackheads walking up and down their streets. Any plan that doesn't will not succeed (at least not until the number who want to use drugs is greater than those who don't want crackheads: then they can use their majority to impose their will on society. Great how it works, isn't it?)

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089075)

Those crackheads would still exist and your neighbour would still have his badly built meth lab if they made illegal drugs even harder to find.

When you make it illegal you create a black market for something, as such some people will do anything and everything to get their hands on it, or make it.

If there were some sort of regulation, like it is with cigarettes, then you'd cut down on the black market (And effectivley, crime in that area) for that drug.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089225)

They exist now. BUT, now I can do something about it. If drugs were legalized, I couldn't.

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (1)

Carrot007 (37198) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089181)

Not to take one side or the other but your argument makes no sense.

SHould things be leagal then.

i. The 'crackheads' would not be walking down the street all the time to the house on the corner. They would have bought there drugs from a reputable person, a house on the corner is not a commercial property and would not be allowed to sell for the irritation it causes. They would also probably be at home as they bought there drugs at a reasonable time when thery were near a shop.

ii. Yout neighbour also in the legalised world would not have a meth lab. again not a commercial property and thus not allowed also he would not want to as he could not compete with the big corperations.

So again what is your problem?

Re:The War on (some) Drugs (2, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089269)

Go out on the streets. How many druggies do you see? You can probably find some if you look hard enough. How many drunks do you see? Tons. Legalizing drugs (by itself) will not reduce the number of crackheads on the street. There need to be other actions taken as well.

Levels (5, Funny)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088341)

the cocaine level was too low to pose a health risk.

I would say the levels are too high when you are willing to blow some dude in a bathroom stall to get more Red Bull. Till then, it's probably just fine.

Re:Levels (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088387)

Still picking pubes out of your teeth, aren't you?

And a Slashdot subscriber to boot, it must be hard to look at yourself in the mirror.

Re:Levels (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088781)

Then they're too high.

Re:Levels (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088865)

Are you high? What the hell were you thinking when you wrote that? How can you imagine such a thing?
Bull me another.

Re:Levels (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088873)

Dear Sir,

When you're ready, I am waiting in stall 3 with your Red Bull.

- Red Bull Dealer

She's alright (5, Insightful)

Neon Aardvark (967388) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088347)

Trace amounts of cocaine were found in the German parliament toilets.

Ergo, German politicians should be banned from Germany.

Re:She's alright (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088441)

Or beeing banned from going to the toilet ;-)

Re:She's alright (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088533)

Trace amounts of cocaine were found in the German parliament toilets.

Ergo, German politicians should be banned from Germany.

No, only German parliament toilets.

That might make government more effective, now that I think about it... They'd atleast have a reason to make their meeting more concise :p

In other news... (5, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088551)

Due to trace amounts of cocaine known to be found on dollar bills - eating, snorting, licking or in any other way ingesting of money shall be strictly prohibited.

If the police officer founds that there is probable cause that the suspect was planing to engage in money ingestion - he/she/it has authorization to detain the suspect and confiscate the said money as evidence.
Cause there is no ceasefire in the war on drugs.

This really isnt suprising (5, Interesting)

Tigersmind (1549183) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088361)

They would of course have a very small amount in the drink. Not enough to break laws, but enough to make people go "Lets get this! It's cocaine!" if it would ever be discovered. Marketing at its best folks.

Re:This really isnt suprising (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088461)

Nope. If they banned this [blogspot.com] just because of its name then Red Bull must change their manufacturing process or shit brix.

Re:This really isnt suprising (1)

friendofthenite (1226310) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088537)

Nice conspiracy theory but probably false. Red Bull cola is one of few colas that contains coca leaf extracts, so it seems plausible that microscopic traces of the alkaloid might end up in the final product. Also, the six German states that the article refers to apparently don't agree with you that it's not enough to break laws, which would hardly be an acceptable trade off for the sake of attracting a few teenagers excited by the idea of taking narcotics.

Re:This really isnt suprising (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088657)

Red Bull cola is one of few colas that contains coca leaf extracts

As does Coca-Cola. See the many posts where this is noted. Also: Hence the name.

hrmmm (1)

t00le (136364) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088373)

Seems odd that the tests have only popped up in Germany. All it takes is some bored German worker to drop a few grams of coke in their Red Bull, then complain to the government after they fail a drug test. :P

Re:hrmmm (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088671)

Well, German politicians know themselves around drugs. After all, cocaine was found on the toilets of the Bundestag (parliament).

Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088397)

If you wanna hang out you've got to break it out - cocaine
If you wanna get down, get down on the ground - cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie - cocaine

If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues - cocaine
When your day is done and you wanna run 'round - cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie - cocaine

If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on - cocaine
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back - cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie - cocaine !!

Re:Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back (4, Insightful)

Falconhell (1289630) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088919)

Ya know what cocaine makes you feel like?

More cocaine!

What a bunch of bull. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088401)

At 0.0004 milligrams per litre, you'd have to drink 10,000 litres to have the effects of a mild everyday south american coca tea. And 100,000 litres to get "high". I'd be more worried about the caffeine...

Coca-Cola next ? (2, Interesting)

moon3 (1530265) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088407)

"Coca" contains cocaine alkaloids, a basis for the drug cocaine.

So Coca-Cola, that still uses Coca extracts in the beverage might also contain "trace amounts" of the substance.. Greedy regulators might have missed a bigger target here.

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088465)

"Coca" contains cocaine alkaloids, a basis for the drug cocaine.

Bull.

The coca leaf contains several alkaloids, one of those being cocaine.

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088605)

Red. :-)

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (2, Informative)

Manip (656104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088505)

According to this page at one point Coca Cola did indeed contain trace amounts but that is no longer the case and hasn't been the case since 1929

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp [snopes.com]

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (2, Informative)

moon3 (1530265) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088969)

Coca-Cola buys (though subsidiary) about 100 metric tons of dried Peruvian coca leaves each year, according to Marco Castillo, spokesman for Peru's state-owned National Coca Co.

(source Wikipedia)

And it uses it in Coca-Cola, that of course doesn't mean that Coca-Cola contains cocain, just a Coca extract.

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088611)

Yes, and hydrochloric acid contains water, so it must be perfectly safe to drink. :P

Re:Coca-Cola next ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088823)

Greedy regulators might have missed a bigger target here.

Oh please! Coca Cola is bigger than most countries. It would be like telling the Vatican that their priests are no longer allowed to fondle little boys.

So _that's_ how it works... (5, Funny)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088519)

Red Bull is a homeopathic stimulant!

Re:So _that's_ how it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088553)

I LOLed but I don't think many people get the joke.

Re:So _that's_ how it works... (5, Informative)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088609)

No. That concentration is far too high to qualify as homeopathic. For that you have to get it down to less than one molecule per liter.

Re:So _that's_ how it works... (5, Interesting)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088677)

Less than one molecule per liter? That's the homeopathic equivalent to a placebo. The strong stuff is measured in molecules per cubic lightyear. [skepticwiki.org] Boy, it sure is a good thing we as a civilization don't treat health problems magic water, huh?

Re:So _that's_ how it works... (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088765)

The idea behind homeopathy is that "like cures like", so a homeopathic cocaine preparation would, from that assumption, actually be an anti-stimulant -- a depressant.

That is, of course, unless you believe it to be a stimulant.

Re:So _that's_ how it works... (1)

PaganRitual (551879) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089043)

This brightened my morning by much more than trace amounts.

secrets of all energy drinks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088547)

Now we know the secrets of all energy drinks including coca cola.

Oh yeah? (4, Interesting)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088549)

I've never bought or used cocaine yet I probably have more of it in my wallet. On my bank notes.

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088877)

Never? Never gone to a Dentist and gotten Novocaine? Never used a head-ache tablet like Codis? It is really tough to have your teeth worked on without narcotics. I have had that done a few times on very small fillings, but anything serious, I'd rather have the injections thanks.

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

BeardedChimp (1416531) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089113)

Never? Never gone to a Dentist and gotten Novocaine? Never used a head-ache tablet like Codis?

Well considering 'novocaine' contains procaine not cocaine, and that Codis has aspirin and codeine in it he can continue to stand by his statement.

Re:Oh yeah? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089185)

Lidocaine is not cocaine derived. There isn't cocaine in modern dental painkillers. Unless he's quite old, he's probably never had cocaine.

Re:Oh yeah? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089287)

Novocaine is similar to cocaine and dentists used to use cocaine as an anesthetic. Neither are narcotics though. Narcotics are only opiates and opioids, despite what the TV says.

I would imagine the poster above you was correct in saying he never used cocaine.

Half-baked (4, Funny)

slashdotmsiriv (922939) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088593)

Red Bull is not a drug. I used to suck d*** for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some d*** for Red Bull?

Re:Half-baked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088669)

haha nice ref !

Re:Half-baked (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088799)

I've sucked off a red bull for some coke before.

DON'T JUDGE ME.

Re:Half-baked (5, Funny)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089015)

cocka cola?

Re:Half-baked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089117)

Thanks bob.

Guess what? Coke too (now) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088625)

Guess what? According to an article in High Times magazine in the 80's, along with a back page article in iirc the business section of NYT in late 80's, the whole reason for "New Coke" was because R.Reagan wanted to move cocaine to schedule I from schedule IV narcotics as part of war on drugs. Doing so would've banned original Coca Cola. Hence reason for "New Coke" except sales tanked & Coke went back to old formula containing coca leaf extract for flavor (without cocaine, which it originally contained decades earlier when still legal), preventing Reagan from moving cocaine to schedule I, & that's why it's still there today. Search for NYT article, back page, should be business section. It describes barbed wire facility that Coke uses to prepare coca leaf extract for mixing with other flavorings, & states how Coke tried to kill story. Don't recall date of NYT article, but it was around '86-'89, with the High Times article explaining schedule I/IV & old coke, new coke, classic coke some time before the NYT article.

Re:Guess what? Coke too (now) (1)

nonewmsgs (1249950) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089033)

cocaine is schedule II. it has some medical use as a local anesthetic.

I bet Jeremy Mayfield is happy now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088635)

at least, if the banned substance he tested positive for was cocaine, he can just say "Oh yeah, I was hanging out at the Red Bull Racing Tent and had me a few cans, that must be it!"

Brian Vickers and Scott Speed is separate statements explained that they didn't test positive because they didn't get enough to drink that shit.

Teach the kiddies (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088709)

It appears as if there is an influx of elementary school teachers on slashdot recently. I assumed it was common sense that the majority of non-retards were aware that Pepsi's competitor previously manufactured cola with cocaine. In addition, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that a large amount of anything, can/will kill you.

EUREKA!! (0, Redundant)

legrimpeur (594896) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088739)

someone could market Redbull as homeopathic cocaine and make a lot more money!

Re:EUREKA!! (1)

UltimApe (991552) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089059)

wrong, homeopathic sleep-aid. According to their ideology.

Red Bull PR team must be partying now (2, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088779)

I guess the lawmakers hope that all people, especially people who buys extra caffeine containing things like Red Bull must hate cocaine or should be afraid of it.

If Red Bull sales explode because of these news, I wouldn't be so surprised. Red Bull could never come up with such a great PR idea, getting banned for having trace amounts of cocaine, a World known, famous thing.

Ask any police guy, they are particularly afraid of cocaine because people somehow think it is classy. While it may have very same, very dangerous side effects (including sudden death) and addiction, they aren't afraid of it like they would be afraid of heroine.

You now declare a free to buy thing in grocery store has that matter even it is ridiculously low. Very clever. If I was Red Bull, I would even sponsor these politicians.

Re:Red Bull PR team must be partying now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089213)

I too am afraid of heroines, because like the police, I'm part of the male patriarchy.

It's everywhere (2, Informative)

dword (735428) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088817)

I recently read on /. that they found traces of cocaine in Madrid if I'm not mistaking. It was later revealed that cocaine is found almost everywhere, because there's always a very very small amount in the air.

Than American money should be banned too. (2, Informative)

TavisJohn (961472) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088863)

There is more Cocaine on a US dollar than in 1 ltr of RedBull!

This is just plain stupidity! I mean there are FDA rules on how many rat hairs are allowed in a chocolate bar... (And no it is not none)

You will get higher off of the caffeine than the cocaine!

Campaign for Real Coca-cola (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088897)

Put the shit back in!

The Conversation (3, Funny)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088921)

Marketing Guy: So, there are artificial flavors made from coca?

Food Chemistry Guy: Yeah, wild, eh?

Marketing Guy: Can you just fill the can with artificial flavoring?

Food Chemistry Guy: No, it would kill our customers, and it would be illegal. The allowable level is much lower than 100%.

Marketing Guy: How much lower?

Food Chemistry Guy: 120 PPM. [note: totally made up]

Marketing Guy: What's a PPM?

Food Chemistry Guy: Parts per million, it is a more precise measure of...

Marketing Guy: [interrupting] Forget I asked -- just put in as much as you can.

Food Chemistry Guy: But, it'll taste terrible.

Marketing Guy: [blinks] ... Ummm, have you tasted regular Red Bull?

Red Balls (2, Funny)

iveygman (1303733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088975)

It's cocaine in can, baby! Shazam!

Not good news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28088987)

for Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel

Why is it in there to begin with (1)

Suisho (1423259) | more than 5 years ago | (#28088991)

The real question is: why is it in there? Micrograms isn't significant by any means, but- why? It would be easier to avoid it all together. Is there some other compound in RB that is comes up as cocaine, or is similar? Is something coming from a place that is processing both a red bull ingredient and cocaine? Is it on purpose? Can trace amounts when added with other stimulants cause an addiction?

With all the testing and quality control, this is either a weird accident, or a very purposeful move.

They should also ban US currency, water and air (1)

crazybit (918023) | more than 5 years ago | (#28089301)

Under the same logic they should also ban, prohibit and retire from the market:

1. US currency [bit.ly]
2. Drinking water [bit.ly]
3. Air [bit.ly]

because all of them contain traces of cocaine.

It's everywhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28089339)

Tests in Spain showed cocaine in trace amounts in the air. If they tested milk and water, do you think they'd find a few nanograms of cocaine per liter in them too? Will Germany ban water next?

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