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Share Your Most Dangerous Idea

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the shhh-it's-too-dangerous-to-talk-about-here dept.

Editorial 1060

GabrielF writes "Every year The Edge asks over 100 top scientists and thinkers a question, and the responses are fascinating and widely quoted. This year, psychologist Steven Pinker suggested they ask "What is your most dangerous idea?" The 117 respondents include Richard Dawkins, Freeman Dyson, Daniel Dennett, Jared Diamond -- and that's just the D's! As you might expect, the submissions are brilliant and very controversial."

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OUTGOING (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389763)

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Looks like a one-time pad to me (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389819)

That looks like a one-time pad bounded by meaningless but seemingly meaningful non-pad data.

Unbreakable encryption - very dangerous idea indeed. You should be shot.

Re:Looks like a one-time pad to me (1)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389886)

True, but it's odd that every sequence appears twice. Insignificant, I'm sure.

Also, almost every sequence contains a repeated digit or pair of digits. Though there are 10**5 possible sequences, few of them would be used.

This one-time pad might well be based on something other than addition. Alternately, it might simply use very large constants. With a larger text, expectation would play a factor. If I were implementing the one-time pad, I'd probably produce each digit individually using a large modulus and then taking the most significant digit.

Anyway, this all reminds me of the Conet Project (Irdial). Check it out; it's Creative Commons.

Mmmmm (1)

matr0x_x (919985) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389769)

I wonder how many of these ideas while eventually some day be implemented.

MY Idea (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389777)

Would be to suck balls. Considering that I would get AIDS, that would be a very bad idea.

Here is one they won't ever implement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14390009)

Based on the idea that all humans are created equal and have inherent rights that man cannot by right take away ... I propose the ideas:

1) Idea that before subjecting a human to a punishment or torture, being absolutely sure that are guilty of a crime that deserves it (due processs). This idea is not valid for humans born outside of the USA for "security reasons".

2) Not carrying out cruel and unusual punishments that are degrading. This is not valid for humans born outside of the USA for "security reasons".

I don't think it will be done, because my idea is unique and novel nobody ever thought of it before.

The Bible says (pooh pooh on it all u like, but it does make some good points) .. and how is it in the national interest to piss off God ..he can take down nations can't he? .. It's one of the proverbs (16:8 I think).. look it up.:

"Better a little gain by righteousness than a lot by injustice"

Steven Pinker owns.... yet.... (1)

NTiOzymandias (753325) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389791)

Ironic how the human instinct to stick to what we're familiar with impedes us even in supposedly objective fields of science and research. I wonder if this gentle nudge will succeed in returning us to a path of progress.

My Humble Submissions (5, Funny)

rev_sanchez (691443) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389793)

1. Shaving my back with rubbing alcohol and fire+.
2. Testing for the presence of pheromones in ball sweat by putting my hand down my pants, cupping my balls, and holding my hand over my sleeping girlfriend's face while she slept.*

+ I was going to do this while in the shower with the water running off to the side so I could hop into the water in the event of the inevitable accident
* Danger: She's a biter thus the reluctance to tea bag her directly

Re:My Humble Submissions (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389875)

You have a girlfriend with a post like that?

Re:My Humble Submissions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389909)

The girlfriend _is_ his most dangerous idea

Criticising a Slashdot "Editor". (1)

Shturmovik (632314) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390013)

Doing it even once is guaranteed to get your Karma modded down to 'Terrible' from +2. Oh wait...thanks so much Michael Sims!

The Most Dangerous Idea of All (0, Flamebait)

vectorian798 (792613) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389798)

Religion

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (1)

kassemi (872456) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389838)

Not so far from the truth. Mod parent insightful, and RTFA. Many of the ideas published focus on science overcoming religion, or visa versa. You have to admit, when a person's individual belief's and values are threatened, many bad things happen, and the idea that discredits any type of religion is a very dangerous one.

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (2, Insightful)

bmac (51623) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389884)

Many of the ideas published focus on science overcoming religion, or visa versa.

Proper religion is both the gateway to science, and is then inevitably reinforced
by the successes it has. Remember our favorites like 'algorithm' and 'algebra' come from
arabic words back from when Islam was filled with love.

BTW, religion (and the mysticism that goes with it) is the gateway to science because
this universe's Creator created it to be accessible to us. Our human mind is designed to
interact with its Creator. No, we cannot quite fathom It, but there's so much to learn
about the universe itself that we couldn't discover a tenth of it in ten lifetimes.

Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened.

This isn't just about spiritual pursuits, it's about knowledge itself.

Peace & Blessings,
bmac

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389930)

Religion was invented as a method to control primitive people. Don't do this and don't do that or else the invisible being watching you will smack you.

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (1, Insightful)

bmac (51623) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389953)

Actually the 'smack' is the built-in system that let's us know when
we're f*cking up. Happiness and unhappiness are the result of the
Law of Karma, which is as much a law as Conservation of Mass or
Universal Gravitation, just it's only operable on the human level,
because we are the only beings with free will.

Religion is rules of how to deal with other human beings. Its
purpose is to promote study, peace and the creation of more and more
happy human beings. Why? To have more consciousness, because we
are the only beings who can appreciate this marvelous creation.

Peace & Blessings,
bmac

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389842)

Religion

You are just asking for it aren't you!

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389898)

Religion - truely the only thing in this world that frightens me.

Perhaps that's why the 9th season of Stargate SG-1 is so interesting to me.

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389932)

Worse yet - Atheism! Zoot Alors! The thought that the basis of their belief system is pure fiction... really bugs those religious wackos.

Really, it does.

Re:The Most Dangerous Idea of All (1)

HermanAB (661181) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390012)

Zealots hate agnosticism even more. They can't stand being ignored, or kindly smiled upon...

evolution of evil (5, Interesting)

ee_moss (635165) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389799)

I found David Buss's [edge.org] article interesting. He sums up with the following, "On reflection, the dangerous idea may not be that murder historically has been advantageous to the reproductive success of killers; nor that we all house homicidal circuits within our brains; nor even that all of us are lineal descendants of ancestors who murdered. The danger comes from people who refuse to recognize that there are dark sides of human nature that cannot be wished away by attributing them to the modern ills of culture, poverty, pathology, or exposure to media violence. The danger comes from failing to gaze into the mirror and come to grips the capacity for evil in all of us."

jihad (2, Funny)

hostingreviews (941757) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389802)

"The hyper-Islamicist critique of the West as a decadent force that is already on a downhill course might be true" - somebody give this guy a research grant.

72,500 words!!! (4, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389807)

This has to be the biggest "article" submitted to Slashdot ever.

Here's my idea: If you have a Bose-Einstein condensate of heavy atoms, why happens when they radioactively decay? Does every atom decay simultaniously? Wouldn't that be kinda like a bomb?

Overrated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389927)

"If you have a Bose-Einstein condensate "

I think most audiophiles agree that Bose stuff is way overrated.

No (5, Interesting)

jd (1658) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389967)

The neutrons would be emitted as though from a point source (which a BEC is) and would therefore not hit anything for a chain reaction to occur.


Now, there MAY be a way to use a BEC more destructively. If you have a BEC that consists of pure deuterium, use magnetic containment to prevent the BEC from expanding back out at all, raise the temperature as close to instantaneously as possible to the point where fusion can occur...


The BEC obviously can't remain a BEC at superhigh temperatures, so must unfold to some degree. The structure is guaranteed to move to the lowest possible energy state, because that is what atomic structures do. This is part of why it would be important to raise the temperature rapidly. You want it so that there simply is no valid state with deuterium nucleii.


If deuterium is simply not an option, the nucleii will fuse. They have no alternative. Here is where it gets fun, though. If the energies are high enough and the compression great enough, you can produce elements as far up the periodic table as you like. Unlike normal particle accelerator efforts to produce super-massive atoms, these will actually last for a while - there won't be room for them to fall apart.


The difficulty in producing the correct conditions would be enormous, but if you could crack that nut, there'd be no theoretical reason why you couldn't push for a nucleus with an atomic mass of a thousand or so.


The energy to produce such a monster atom would be guaranteed much greater than ALL of the energy output by the fusion reactions. (Iron takes more energy to fuse than it gives out and we're talking something a couple of orders of magnitude larger.) Sustaining it might even be worse.


The fun part, though, will be in letting it collapse after a time. A very substantial part of the energy put into the fusion of the nucleii would be released in a matter of microseconds over an extremely small space. Current physics predicts that if you exceed a certain energy density, space will "inflate". This might cause the whole of space/time to explode, it might form a pocket universe, or it might do all sorts of other strange things. Nobody knows much about energy densities of that magnitude.

Re:No (5, Funny)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390001)

This might cause the whole of space/time to explode, it might form a pocket universe, or it might do all sorts of other strange things.

Okay, I definitely nominate this for the most dangerous idea.

Sexuality is going to change (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389812)

How about this one: a majority of people will become bisexual as social controls are removed, say over the next 50 years.

Re:Sexuality is going to change (2, Insightful)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389870)

The majority of people *are* bisexual - pure homosexuality or heterosexuality (where you feel *no* attraction at all whatsoever to your own/the opposite gender) is pretty rare. In fact, I personally would go so far as to say that it's practically non-existant.

Re:Sexuality is going to change (1)

Associate (317603) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389920)

Where would you place asexual humans then?

Re:Sexuality is going to change (1)

rkaa (162066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389972)

> Where would you place asexual humans then?

I'm right here.

Re:Sexuality is going to change (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14390026)

I'd like to see data that backs that claim up. If anything, there is some research [umich.edu] that suggests that bisexuality, at least in men, is a misconception. The likelihood is that human sexuality is distributed in a pretty lumpy way, with the vast majority being heterosexual, a robust minority being homosexual, and, questionably, a very tiny segment possibly being "true" bisexuals. There is plenty of research [religioustolerance.org] demonstrating the likely genetic basis of homosexuality, but bisexuals have not been found to be "in between." Of course, none of this addresses the higher prevalence of bisexual behavior in women, which raises the issue if women can be "truly" bisexual whereas men cannot--or if culturally sanctioned displays of homoerotic and homosexual behavior in otherwise heterosexual women is actual bisexualiy, or just acting out. Sexuality works very differently in the minds of women than men, so this is quite an open question. Anyway, I think we are too "hard-wired" in this department to start suddenly engaging in rampant bisexuality even if the cultural accepts it in both genders. For men, at least, its just not in their genes.

Also--a heterosexual who is non-sexually attracted to, or objectively appreciatie the sexual attractiveness of someone of their own gender is not being bisexual. That requires genuine sexual desire for both genders. That's tough to confirm, but with modern neuroscience techniques (like fMRI) we may be able to tell the difference.

What are /. reader's most dangerous ideas? (2, Interesting)

davidwr (791652) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389813)

Let's make our own list.

My most dangerous idea: Asking /. posters what their most dangerous idea is. :)

Humor aside, I am serious, let's make a list.

Re:What are /. reader's most dangerous ideas? (4, Funny)

Kickboy12 (913888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389823)

Taking 8 hits of acid and watching The Exorcist.

Very dangerous idea.

Re:What are /. reader's most dangerous ideas? (4, Funny)

crazyphilman (609923) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390025)

Ha, good one... I actually knew a guy who, before going to a strip club with me, dropped acid and drank a whole bottle of "cold duck" (some kind of wine). He didn't mention this to me, of course.

So we're at the strip club, and this girl I know is giving me a table dance. Her gorgeous ass is bobbing back and forth in front of my face, right? And there's a good chance she'll come with us later in the evening for some clubbing. I'm happy and content, and all is well.

SUDDENLY! His hand flies into the scene from the left, and he sticks his thumb straight up her ass. She screams and shoots off him like a pershing missle, and sprints -- SPRINTS -- into the dressing rooms twenty feet away. My mouth is hanging open; I simply cannot believe what has just happened. The girl -- strawberry blonde with a surfer hairdo and freckles and the whitest, softest skin you have EVER seen -- is certainly NEVER going to speak to me again. I am in shock of course.

She's barely gone and my knucklehead friend leaps up to the platform where some other poor girl is doing her little pole-dance thing, and starts screaming "they're all SLUTS! SLUTS! SLUTS!" I grab him in a headlock and drag him to the door, saying to the two Giant Navajo bouncers "Uh... I think he's on something, we're leaving, ok?" He's frothing at the mouth at this point. I barely get him outside and he takes off like a psycho rocket.

I spent the rest of the night chasing his psycho tripping ass all over Flagstaff, Arizona, hoping he wouldn't get himself killed, not having any idea whatsoever what was going on. At one point, he drove his head into four or five huge plate-glass windows in a row, all along San Francisco street, causing an enormous uproar (people getting out of bed with their shotguns, etc) and a police investigation that would go on for weeks. Unbelieveably, he wasn't injured at all. Not even a scratch.

I finally got him back in his apartment, and when he called me the next day, all of his clothes had been mysteriously tied in a huge rope which extended from his ankle to his door (or something, he wasn't really coherent when he told me the story), he was stark naked, and there was vomit all over every surface of his room. On the advice of a bartender friend of ours, he got out of town at first opportunity - EVERYONE was looking for him (and me, because they thought he might have killed me or something) -- and I haven't seen or heard of him since.

It was the weirdest-ass thing I ever witnessed.

Re:What are /. reader's most dangerous ideas? (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389853)

Eating Taco Bell after a night of binge drinking. Then going to an amusement park.

Re:What are /. reader's most dangerous ideas? (1)

i_should_be_working (720372) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389877)

Well I'm not sure what my dangerous idea in RL is.

But the most dangerous idea to support here on /.: Apple is teh suck

ohhhh... I thought you said "game" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389928)

Luring people to my secluded island and hunting them for sport.

My most dangerous ideas (5, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389822)

"Hold my beer and watch this".
"Better light a match to see where that gas is coming from."
"Yeah honey, you do look kind of fat in that dress."

So that would make the *most* dangerous idea... (5, Funny)

physicsphairy (720718) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389912)

Asking your wife to hold your beer in an underground gas mine so that you can light a match to check if she looks fat.

That's Easy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389824)

The most dangerous idea of all time is amending the U.S. Constitution so that George W. Bush could serve more than 2 terms as President.

a totally impractical idea, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389825)

...how about using antimatter as mouthwash?

It WOULD kill the bacteria (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389839)

"Mama, the dentist can't figure out why I have so many cavities when there's no bacteria."

"Son, those are craters."

Blow up the Moon (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389826)

I think trying to split the Moon in half with our nuclear weapons would be an interesting thing to try, even though it'd probably would be the end of us.

Re:Blow up the Moon (3, Funny)

Zork the Almighty (599344) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390006)

Just start sending emails about terrorists and oil on the Moon to your grandma. I'm sure the NSA will pass it on, and in due time the Moon will be toast.

A Dangerous Idea (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389827)

Read Digg [digg.com] and read the stories before the editor-whores of Slashdot bend over and spread goatse-like for Roland Piquepaille and * * Beatles Beatles!

An even more dangerous idea, the editors listen and pay attention to their readership. Bitchslapping a comment because it's anti-groupthink doesn't help people decide on whether or not they should subscribe to Slashdot!

Well, duh... (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389828)

Reading Slashdot every day is pretty dangerous as far as ideas go. Never know when you're going to read something insightful, scream "Eureka!" and your head explodes like a nasty toliet.

Late night swimming and alcohol. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389833)

It's a winning combination!

-- Lenny

ok I read the article (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389834)

Well, some of it

Is it just me or are the responses well kind of... totally batshit insane

I'd quote quotes but they all seem utterly fucking LOOONEY

As In "What kind of dumbass would think that makes sense" Not as in "Dangerous"

Are these supposed to be prestigious people?

We're in fucking trouble if so

What a fucking joke

My most dangerous idea... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389840)

...was putting ALL my assets into Google.

But the bet paid off. And now I can buy my own island. And a death ray.

Re:My most dangerous idea... (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389946)

I knew a guy like you a few years back. He was real smug about having his whole portfolio in Enron and WorldCom. Turns out that was a really dangerous idea.

Longest FA ever. (3, Insightful)

i_should_be_working (720372) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389843)

Most of these don't seem really dangerous, just some ideas of what might come or be accepted in the future. Ideas that some iconoclasts already accepted but the masses have not. Like the idea of humans having no souls.

The ones that are dangerous are not dangerous in the "omg someone could kill millions with this idea" way. They are dangerous in the "our society will be even more effed up if this idea catches on" way. Like the idea that we can't win the war on climate change. If everyone accepted this how many countries would even try to reduce emissions? Or the idea that there really are fundamental differences between the "races". That would make the next genocide just a little bit easier.

Melting (3, Insightful)

IvyMike (178408) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389845)

This is funny, but I'm also totally serious:

Several times in my life, I've thought that I might be able to fix a broken object by using the process of melting. No matter how right I thought I was when I started, I've always, ALWAYS, regretted the idea.

Even knowing this, I'll probably try it again.

The Most Apt Response Out There (5, Interesting)

NoData (9132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389846)

Dan Gilbert is a bit of a hero of mine. His research basically is about happiness--it's all any of us really, universally, want, so why, after millions of years of evolution, are we so bad at finding it? We should be experts! His stuff on affective forecasting and rationalization is amazing. I highly recommend his papers--and hearing him talk, if you ever have the opportunity, even more so! Anyway, he's a REAL character, and his response betrays that:


DANIEL GILBERT
Psychologist, Harvard University

The idea that ideas can be dangerous

Dangerous does not mean exciting or bold. It means likely to cause great harm. The most dangerous idea is the only dangerous idea: The idea that ideas can be dangerous.

We live in a world in which people are beheaded, imprisoned, demoted, and censured simply because they have opened their mouths, flapped their lips, and vibrated some air. Yes, those vibrations can make us feel sad or stupid or alienated. Tough shit. That's the price of admission to the marketplace of ideas. Hateful, blasphemous, prejudiced, vulgar, rude, or ignorant remarks are the music of a free society, and the relentless patter of idiots is how we know we're in one. When all the words in our public conversation are fair, good, and true, it's time to make a run for the fence.



Well, Dan, have you read Slashdot lately? I think we're still all right. For now.

The most dangerous idea (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389847)

one word - Peace

here's dangerous but not popular (0, Troll)

bmac (51623) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389851)

That there is a being called the Devil that is the source of all human
urges towards violence and selfishness. That he and his hordes live in
a parallel dimension that we cannot see yet can be affected by. That
human life itself resides in the context of the constant struggle with
this being. That most human beings are not aware of this struggle and,
worse yet, will believe the devil's own implanted idea that he does
not, in fact, exist. Still worse, that the people who should know how
to fight this being (which is one of the purposes of the one religion
that is the source of all religions), are instead consumed by him and
then are pitted against each other as his pawns.

Mod me down, whatever; I know it's coming, but this is the worst horror
film you can imagine, and it's the exact truth.

Wish with your heart to reach God spiritually in your lifetime so that
you may serve God - Who only wants for our happiness - and you will
succeed in throwing off the yoke of Satan. This is the message of the
Age of Hidayat.

Peace be with you all. May all love all.

Re:here's dangerous but not popular (1)

oaklybonn (600250) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389956)

Mod me down, whatever; I know it's coming, but this is the worst horror film you can imagine, and it's the exact truth.

And you have proof of this other than some book written (and rewritten and reinterpreted) by humans, right?

Or should we just accept your version of reality and ignore others [wikipedia.org]?

Is it possible, just possible, that you could be wrong? Seriously, please consider that for a few moments, and respond.

Sock Tracking... (1)

mofomojo (810520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389854)

.. yes, if people could one day track all their socks, where they came from or where the missing half of the pair is then someday it will revolutionize the way you and I live.

The government is currently rejecting any patents for such technology since it's so dangerous and detrimental to society. The want to cover up the gnome conspiracy, but no, we need to start a revolution and take back our socks.

JOIN THE REVOLUTION TODAY!

The United States is the biggest threat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389862)

The United States has become the biggest threat to the world. It has abandoned it's principles, and the population shows no sign of concern. It's only a matter of time before the pretenses of civility and diplomacy are dropped.

A radical idea - Fredom Matters Most (1, Troll)

argoff (142580) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389868)

In Linux - everyone seems to think that the technology is more important that the freedom in making the business case for using it.

In monitary policy - everyone seems to think that other measures of inflation and growth are more important, than the freedom from controll that the gold standard offers.

In public education - everyone talks about what kind of education the kids need, and noone talks about the financial freedom lost in paying for it, or the very influence that such has on the kids.

In social security and medicade/ medical care - everyones worried about how will we take care of the needy and elderly and noone talks about the people that need to be financially coerced to make these systems work.

In copyrights and patents - everyone talks about the poor starving inventor or creator, and noone talks about all the people that need to be coerced to make these systems of incentive work.

In the genocide of the poor - noone would even dare mention that the best solution would be to arm them and seciure their right to bear arms first.

Yes, I know it is an insanely radical shocking "lunatic" proposal and people would shudder at the thought that people might actually be "allowed" freedom and empowerment. Perhaps you should just mod me to minus infinity now to save society from the terror that such an outlandish notion would inflict.

oh - and the "war" on drugs, sorry (5, Insightful)

argoff (142580) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389904)

I'm sorry for responding to my own post, but no argument about freedom would be complete without mentioning the "war on drugs". God forbid that people actually be "allowed" to act in ways that may not be in their own best interest. Even worse, God forbid that they might be "allowed" to decide what drugs might be in their own best interest. Yeah, if not for the war on drugs "we would have so much crime and violence" .... .... .... hmmmmmmmm.

Re:A radical idea - Fredom Matters Most (4, Insightful)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389968)

Perhaps you should just mod me to minus infinity now to save society from the terror that such an outlandish notion would inflict.

It's always nice when someone new walks into a process that's been going on for hundreds of years and gets angry that no one sees his simple solution, even though that's where we started and we've been fixing the problems with it ever since.

In public education - everyone talks about what kind of education the kids need, and noone talks about the financial freedom lost in paying for it, or the very influence that such has on the kids.

They're too busy talking about the financial freedom lost when you have a work force of illiterates who can't add.

In social security and medicade/ medical care - everyones worried about how will we take care of the needy and elderly and noone talks about the people that need to be financially coerced to make these systems work.

And your constructive solution is then to let thousands and thousands of people either die or turn to crime? Step one, end social security. What's step two? Please answer. If you've got a way to make this work, please tell us. I really, really want to be on your side, because that's a lot of money.

In the genocide of the poor - noone would even dare mention that the best solution would be to arm them and seciure their right to bear arms first.

Genius! How could that possibly go bad? Combine this with your no-free-schooling idea and we've got ourselves a plan that just might solve everybody's problem.

Re:A radical idea - Fredom Matters Most (1, Interesting)

argoff (142580) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390015)

It's always nice when someone new walks into a process that's been going on for hundreds of years and gets angry that no one sees his simple solution, even though that's where we started and we've been fixing the problems with it ever since.

Yup. I knew it would be too radical for people to handle.

They're too busy talking about the financial freedom lost when you have a work force of illiterates who can't add.

Yup. The notion that people might actually become educated without the government coercing it on everyone - I told you, it is simply too radical for people to handle.

And your constructive solution is then to let thousands and thousands of people either die or turn to crime? Step one, end social security. What's step two? Please answer. If you've got a way to make this work, please tell us. I really, really want to be on your side, because that's a lot of money.

Boy, I sure hit the nail on the head. After all, who could ever possibly accept the notion that millions won't die unless the government coerces people to pay for retirement and health care. Yes, it is truely too radical to handle.

Genius! How could that possibly go bad? Combine this with your no-free-schooling idea and we've got ourselves a plan that just might solve everybody's problem.

I can see now, that my idea was truely too dangerous. Clearly modding to minus infinity doesn't provide society enough safety. I think you need to have /. trace my IP, to my ISP, and have my ISP trace to my home address so that experts may be hired to rip my toung out, cut off my typing hands, and gouge my peanus out of it's socket to ensure that I can no longer promote such radical ideas or reproduce. Thank you.

Lots of buzzword babble (2, Interesting)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389873)

This thing seems like a few gems from genuinely insightful people, and a whole lot of buzzword babble junk. My personal favorite so far is the "headaches are like a spoon" drivel that says we should abandon the idea of physical objects and that everything we think we know is just our brain's interpretation, and there's no reason for that interpretation to match reality in any way. Only problem is - the reality of a wolf ripping out my throat is a pretty good reason to evolve senses that give me a good picture of that reality. I swear, the matrix gave this crap a whole new motivation - and it makes me wanna barf.

Electric Universe (1)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390007)

Man, I've kept skimming the articles - and they are just getting worse. I can't believe they gave the "electric universe" nutjobs any space in here.

mind control (5, Insightful)

nephridium (928664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389876)

How about inventing a device to put into everybody's house (at least in the living room, maybe even the bed room) that, through some kind of electro-magnetic radiation or something, makes them more tranquil and less critical so it is easier to rule over them. Just think of the opportunities of such sort of devices - you could teach an entire population what (or who) is "good" or "bad" and you can pull off just about anything without the fear of being held responsible for your actions.

I shall call it "thought vehicle" or short TV. - Sounds good too.. I should patent this idea.

Shooting for mod points... (3, Informative)

Associate (317603) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389888)

My most dangerous idea:
Teach people to think for themselves.

Re:Shooting for mod points... (2, Insightful)

hobbesx (259250) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389921)

Ah, yes...

But if you teach someone to think for themselves and they do, are they actually thinking for themselves?

Porno Wallpaper Virus/worm (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389908)

Fairly self-explanatory... make a porno image... or even... eeep... goatse guy... default Windows wallpaper via virus/worm, set default homepage to nambla.org.... then disable ability to change these back.

My most dangerous idea? (4, Funny)

PhunkySchtuff (208108) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389923)

Well, I'm really busy at the moment, but maybe I'll just check slashdot one more time, just for a quick breather... I'm sure I won't be surfing for too long and will get straight back to work as soon as I've caught up on the news...

We are all virtual... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389924)

We are all virtual... right?

My dangerous idea (1)

KrisCowboy (776288) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389935)

Gain control of Microsoft and release all the source-code and to open up the document formats. I can't do this alone but if all the /. readers are kind enough to send me a donation, I can start buying M$ stock.

Economic subjugation becomes real subjugation (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389940)

We are increasingly building a world where the rich are free and the poor are subjugated. People who are wealthy and well-connected can command outrageous salaries and bonuses, year after year, even with a history of failure. The middle class are herded by the media through a life of monotonous work and consumption. Poor people, trapped by limited economic mobility, are preyed upon by everyone. We have created a society which is increasingly unequal economically, and I believe this will translate into major social inequality soon. Rich people will enjoy more rights and freedoms, poor people will live in a prison without walls, and the middle class will have satellite TV.

What the..? Emotional Intelligence? (2, Interesting)

TheNoxx (412624) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389941)

Who is this Gottman prick? And why does he feel threatened by "emotional intelligence"?

Emotional intelligence is not a dangerous idea, merely an expression of maturity without reguard to scholarly learning, as many intellectual elitists are fucking keen on to operate without maturity whatsoever. I believe the notion behind it is that actual ethical good trumps academic research, as academic research is completely fruitless without the purpose to better the lives of the people of the world.

Let me simplify my thoughts: Who is the better man, a simpleton who emulates Ghandi based on emotional intuition, or someone who sharpens his intellect to the point of brilliance if only to raise himself in the world?

OK, here's one. "Alcohol Economy". (4, Interesting)

crazyphilman (609923) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389949)

Think about it. Everyone's pissing and moaning about the coming oil shortages, and so on, and NOBODY is thinking about how conveniently flammable alcohol is.

We have an entire Midwest full of Great Plains which are very well suited to growing grains which could produce alcohol.

It has been demonstrated that you can run a car on alcohol. Dragsters do it all the time.

It has been demonstrated that a fuel cell can generate electricity from methanol.

Alcohol doesn't poison the environment if you spill some. It burns clean if you have a darwinian-selection moment and light it up. And in a pinch, you can drink it. Try THAT with petroleum.

Well? Wouldn't an alcohol economy be easier than a hydrogen one?

Just a thought...

My idea (3, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389955)

I was thinking of installing the latest Longhorn beta, or playing Russian roulette with an automatic - haven't decided yet.

Quark Bomb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389970)

And on the 8th day, he created darkness.

Michael Nesmith (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14389986)

Yeah!

Non-Time drives forward the notion the past does not create the present. This would of course render evolutionary theory a local-system, near-field process that was non-causative (i.e. effect).

Non-Sequential reverberates through the Turing machine and computation, and points to simultaneity. It redefines language and cognition.

yea us? (2, Interesting)

Heem (448667) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389989)

KAI KRAUSE [edge.org]

"The relative innocence and stable period of the last 50 years may spiral into a nearly inevitable exposure to real chaos. What if it isn't haphazard testosterone driven riots, where they cannibalize their own neighborhood, much like in L.A. in the 80s, but someone with real insight behind that criminal energy ? What if Slashdotters start musing aloud about "Gee, the L.A. water supply is rather simplistic, isn't it?" An Open Source crime web, a Wiki for real WTO opposition ? Hacking L.A. may be a lot easier than hacking IE."

Maybe I should post this as AC... (1)

Chrontius (654879) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389990)

...but weaponized strangelets spring to mind. Whether they have to be added to standard matter at sufficient temperature is moot; one could just lob 'em into the sun and wait a few months for them to get there. Or not, if you've got a particle accelerator of sufficient power.

the horror (1)

nephridium (928664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14389995)

Ahh! - For a split-second this post's icons looked to me as if someone guillotined Einstein and held up his head. The horror! To see it on slashdot..

I'd say the most dangerous idea is the sentiment of (far too) many people nowadays that science and rational thought is too complicated and doesn't give any real answers.

Loggia's Most Dangerous IDEA (1, Troll)

loggia (309962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390002)

Pick a list of people to ask that isn't the same !@$%^&* names again and again.

Rudy Rucker? Stewart Brand? Danny Hillis?

FOR !@$%^&* SAKE, I am so sick and tired of hearing from these people.

There are so many legitimately fascinating brilliant thinkers, writers, artists, poets, scientists, and on and on living on this planet.

How is this for a DANGEROUS IDEA? PICK SOME NOVEL NAMES.

Sheesh.

Stolen from Star Trek (5, Interesting)

saskboy (600063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390004)

My ideas that are most dangerous to human life on earth are to invent the transporter, and also warp speed, or impulse spacecraft. Just one spaceship the size of Enterprise A tearing through the Earth at Warp 1 would in theory destroy the earth into a cloud of planet vapour. Transporters would be used to rob every bank devised, and kidnap world leaders. Everyone would have to have a transporter inhibitor, or you'd be kidnapped almost right away, and probably not by aliens, but by the Swords of Righteousness Brigade or their ilk in Iraq.

ooh, ooh! pick me! (4, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390010)

my dangerous idea:

the internet has replaced the encyclopedia

it is replacing want ads, real estate agents, auctions, music companies, publishers, etc.

it will someday replace government

but hold on, there's a catch:

if the internet does this, it will do it the same way it is defeating the music industry: not through any conscience effort, but just a gradual, inevitable, unfightable erosion of relevancy by little efforts made by individuals not even consciously trying to do anything coherent

in other words, if you are actively seeking to defeat government and promote anarchy/ libertarianism/ revolution, or whatever, you are way off

because you are making a conscience effort

because if and when it happens, no one will notice it starting

just like the guys who built the original arpanet in the 1960s didn't say "hey! let's build a radically superior music distribution model that cuts out the middle man and removes the economic incentive!"

except that's exactly what they did

The Most Dangerous Idea of Them All! (3, Funny)

CharonIDRONES (656891) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390022)

Sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

Sorry, couldn't help myself

-Brandon

Hmm... (4, Funny)

Dirtside (91468) | more than 8 years ago | (#14390029)

Every year The Edge asks over 100 top scientists and thinkers a question, and the responses are fascinating and widely quoted.
I guess he got sick of Bono getting "Man of the Year" and such. Somewhat of a 180 from his previous stance [theonion.com].
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