Goblet of Fire Teaser Trailer Released 336
bryan8m writes "The teaser trailer for the next installment of the Harry Potter series has hit the web. The clip begins with a bit of a flashback but quickly turns to the triwizard tournament with some amazing visuals. And there is new director (again): Mike Newell."
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The Kids are aging too fast (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:The Kids are aging too fast (Score:2, Insightful)
I always cringe whenever anybody says that "the kids are aging too fast" to finish the movies.
Doesn't anybody remember Dawson's Creek or Beverly Hills, 90210???
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Never mind I see your point...
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Re:The Kids are aging too fast (Score:5, Interesting)
There's also the difference of their age when they start filming a movie and their age when it is released, about a year and a half later. For instance, when I mentioned Hermoine's age (I remember seeing it in the "What Happened Today" column in the newspaper), she was a year or so behind her movie age at the time of release. Even if you don't take that into account, assuming the kids ages matched when they started filming, at the end, they'll be 21 playing 18 year olds. That has happened quite often in TV and film.
So, yes, the actors are aging fast, but you have to remember the characters are aging, too. It is a bit hard to get used to, since we see the characters in "snapshots" spaced a year to year and a half apart, and if you're used to watching a kid grow up, it's so gradual you don't notice it as much. In the latest movie, they should be 14, and I don't think the characters look too far off.
Teens also tend to grow much more when they're 12-16. Often you don't see quite as much of a change from 16-18, so if they look okay for the next movie, I think they'd be fine in the last 2.
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This'll be big (Score:4, Funny)
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direct link (Score:3, Informative)
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Anyway, those who want full screen:
http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/harry_potter_go
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OT: FUD (Score:3, Informative)
Now FUD is claimed by any 13 year old fanboy who does not like a negative co
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filerush torrent... (Score:5, Informative)
... there is new director.... (Score:2)
Terry Gilliam almost directed the first movie (Score:5, Interesting)
Gilliam: Eventually they went with another director, and since the film made over $300 million, that was obviously the right decision.
NPR: What did you think of the movie when it came out?
Gilliam: Crap.
Re:Terry Gilliam almost directed the first movie (Score:5, Informative)
But Cuaron rightly praised Columbus for a number of things right with those movies. He picked a knockout cast, both kids and adults, and an awesome location.
Some of the failings of the first three (yeah, all three) I put on the screenwriter, who seems to have a tendency to substitute action scenes for character moments. That made the first two movies rather long for kids' movies and still leaving out some important scenes from the books. Still, that's Rowling's chosen screenwriter, so I guess it's what she wanted.
I much prefer the gritty realism of the third movie to the first two. But for Gilliam to dismiss Sorcerer's Stone as "crap", given that he's been rather hit-and-miss himself, seems undeservedly arrogant.
Columbus made basic kiddie fare. Gilliam's would have been a fascinating change, though in some ways I like the idea of the first intro movie being a more pedestrian adaptation of the book, to serve as a foundation for the sequels to be more interesting. I'd love to see Gilliam direct one of the future movies, but with an attitude like that there's no way they're going to let him.
Of course, the studio was probably dead set against him from the start. He has a tendency to create truly grand visions and then run over schedule and budget. Baron Munchausen almost didn't make it, and his Don Quixote did fail. He blames it on circumstances and cheapskate studios.
Me, I'm a director myself (stage, rather than film), and I know that disasters happen and you need to be flexible to fix them. The documentary Lost in La Mancha is very favorable to him, and he did have a run of bad luck, but it also sounds to me like he failed to have backup plans and cut things too close to the wire. Under those circumstances projects will always fail, because things go wrong.
He needs a better unit production manager, or he needs to listen more closely to the one he has.
Re:Terry Gilliam almost directed the first movie (Score:2)
However, I disagree with the parent poster in that I think the character moments capture the very essence of the books. The books aren't intended for (very) young audiences, and neither are the movies to an extent. Despite all this, first graders are definitely able to grasp th
Re:Terry Gilliam almost directed the first movie (Score:2)
The books have been aimed at Rowling's own children, who get older significantly faster than Harry does. So they get darker and more grown-up.
The upcoming book is going to be very dark, I'm sure. I'd love to see them get Cuaron back to direct one of the really dark books. Perhaps this upcoming one, which I suspect will have a serious romatic subplot.
I'd have exp
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Quicktime install (Score:2, Informative)
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dragon feed (Score:5, Funny)
sorry, couldn't resist
Slashdot Jr. (Score:5, Funny)
Slashdot Jr. News for prepubescent nerds, Stuff that would matter if I were 12.
(I kid, I've actually seen all of the other ones).
Direct Link (Score:2, Informative)
Save dis shiz [apple.com]
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:5, Interesting)
I bought the books last summer and read all 5 of them in a matter of days (spread out over a few weekends). Since them I have reread them and I am most certainly looking forward to the next one in ~62 days.
Give them a change, most likely you wouldn't be disappointed.
They are funny, well written and at the end of each book, you hit yourself over the head, because you didn't see it coming. One really can't stop reading them. Rowling even makes a joke in one of her books about a magical book that you can never put down. Well, her books are certainly magical.
They are also kind of a mystery spread out over 7 books. Only two left to go.
But if you can't take the suspense, perhaps you should wait untill book 7 is out in a few years.
What is also surprisingly is that the writing style ages with the characters. While book one is more targeted at 11 year olds, the 5th one is more for young adolescentes. But any age can and does enjoy them.
A decent fansite is: www.mugglenet.com [mugglenet.com]
The editorials are usually good.
Before I read them I just discarded them as over hyped kids books. I was proven wrong, lucky me.
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:3, Insightful)
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Also, keep in mind that it are just kids acting. You can't expect an 12 year old to be as good as, say, Morgan Freeman.
As they grow older, their acting does seem to improve, save for the boy playing Ron.
The movies are good for young kids, but the books are for all ages.
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Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
Big Harry Potter fan? [penny-arcade.com]
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
Unfortunately, I have read one of the books. There are a few things in HP that adults can appreciate, but the oversimplified plot and cardboard characters held pretty much zero interest for me (as an adult). I sometimes wonder if the adults that enjoy these books have not yet been exposed to real fantasy. I base this suspicion on the fact that most of the adults that I know who have read the HP books, previously never read any books at all. It's good thing to encourage more a
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
I sometimes wonder if the adults that enjoy these books have not yet been exposed to real fantasy.
Your supposition is wrong, in many cases. Don't get too hoity toity over it, because there are plenty of fans of serious fantasy that enjoy the HP books. The books didn't outsell Tolkien by selling only to kids -- it's the fact that they're enjoyable to such a broad audience that has made them so successfull (well, that plus plenty of media attention).
If you want a real fantasy series, check out Rober
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
Well, it's not like she's won any major SF awards [worldcon.org] or anything, so I guess not.
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
I hated the very ideal of the Harry Potter books since the came out, until I read one. Four of the books where out when I read the first one. From there I was hooked. I read all four in a matter of days then the 5th one came out a couple weeks later. I innhaled it in a two days. Then I picked up the first one and read them all again.
I'm hard core SF and Fantisy. Stuff that makes most peoples head hurt. JK Rowlings is an icredible writer. If she can write a book that kids will read and I can't pu
Re:I've seen 3 Harry Potter movies so far (Score:2)
* Story time: 1991-1992
* Release: June 26, 1997
* Note: Both the book and the film were retitled Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the U.S., with similar alterations to the text
2. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
* Story time: 1992-1993
* Release: 1998
3. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
* Story time: 1993-1994
* Release: September 8, 1999
4. Harry Potter and
Audio Books (Score:2)
He won some awards (including a Grammy) for them and a Guiness Book entry for "Most Character Voices in an Audio Book".
Re:the reason (Score:4, Insightful)
Source?
For, well, either of those (a) baseless, and (b) totally illogical assertions? :-)
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Not true.
Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone [imdb.com] and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets [imdb.com] were both directed by Chris Columbus (this one [wikipedia.org], not that one [wikipedia.org]).
Re:the reason (Score:2)
What were they thinking getting rid of a director who successfully translated books to movies?
And for that matter, why have the characters in what is essentially an old English boarding school wearing modern and eventually dated clothing rather than uniforms?
Re:the reason (Score:3, Informative)
What were they thinking getting rid of a director who successfully translated books to movies?
They didn't exactly "get rid" of Chris Columbus. He chose not to direct the Prisoner of Azkaban in order to spend more time with his family (he was still an executive producer though). According to the IMDB [imdb.com], he wanted to come back and direct the fourth film, but Warner Brothers chose Mike Newell instead.
Re:the reason (Score:3)
Which movies did you watch? The scenery, sets, characters, and acting have got progressively better with each film.
Re:the reason (Score:3, Insightful)
The books get darker each book, so the movies should get darker too.
On the other hand, the last movie wasn't actually as good. It told a very small portion of the story the book did, and the things it focused on weren't nearly as interesting as some of the things it left in there.
Like, for instance, they didn't even mention some (IMHO) crutial plot things - SPOILER OF BOOK WARNING-:
1) all the new adults in the third movie went to
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When asked to do the fourth movie, Alfonso said no, we wanted to spend the time to get the third one right in post-production. The result? An excellent 3rd movie, but I'm worried that the 4th won't be anywhere near as good.
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IIRC there were some big plot holes for people who didn't know the story;
the Marauders Map (looking very nice) was put very much into the foreground, but it lacked some explaining - for example who created it:
Lupin knew what it was, but there was no explaination why he - but not Snape - did know how to use it
(no explaination of the creators' nicknames and that Lupin was one of them).
That could have been nicely integrated with a
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Actually, this was one of the things that I thought was a brilliant idea. It really helped to show that they really ARE kids, and helped decrease the "fake fantasy" feeling that tends to permeate the other two movies.
The third movie felt "real" (for lack of a better word). Ordinary kids thrown into extraordinary circumstances.
N.
Re:the reason (Score:4, Insightful)
There are lots of silly rumors about J.K. Rowling. The only conflict that has any real basis in fact is that she's not producing more Harry Potter as quickly as the publisher would like. One reason for this is the novels are getting progressively more bloated. Which I personally find a pain, but which most fantasy fans seem to love.
The big problem with the HP movies was not that the movie people didn't get along with Rowling, but that they got along all too well. So the first two movies were very literal adaptations of the first two books. Not a good way to make a movie, because you end up with a shortened version of the book that doesn't take advantage of cinematic story telling. Which is why I enjoyed the first two books, but found the first two movies utterly boring.
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Re:How long... (Score:2, Insightful)
If I was in her shoes, I'd keep doing it for as long as it took for my paychecks to drop down to 5 figures, then I'd retire. After buying an island to retire on.
Re:Ahem, wrong site (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Ahem, wrong site (Score:4, Insightful)
Also, the books contain the entire story. Important parts of the plot aren't discarded to make time for an extra 30 seconds of pointless special effects. I've found it surprising that JKR has ok'd the scripts for the first three movies because in each of them alot of important info has been cut out of the movies. Which is a pity because she spends alot of effort going back to her stories to add hints and clues as to what might happen in a future book.
In short, the books rock. I've had the 6th one pre-ordered for months now
Re:Emma Watson (Score:4, Insightful)
She's underage. You're going well over the line in making remarks about panty shots.
If you don't respect the fact that she's jailbait, at least respect the fact that she's a human being. I remember reading somewhere she actually was quite shy about a scene in which she was supposed to HUG one of her fellow actors. I can't imagine how I would feel being in a film knowing that pimply, greasy nerds and other creepy people were trying to picture my genitalia.
So in short, grow up and get a life. As for the guy with the "coming of age" clock - anyone who produced something like that about my daughter gets his CPU reprogrammed with a softball bat and rightly so. Get it? Even if I was creepy enough to look at a little girl in a sexual manner, I would accord the same respect to Emma Watson and to her father as I would expect shown to me and my own kids.
When did we as a society decide this kind of sick crap was OK? Fatty Arbuckle's career was ruined by the suggestion he was a diddler. R. Kelly, of whom we have VIDEO EVIDENCE he's a child molestor and kiddie rapist, is top of the charts. Go figure.
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2, Insightful)
She is a fully physically mature woman.
> Even if I was creepy enough to look at a little girl in a sexual manner
Oh, nice strawman. Sure, she's a 'little girl'. Sure.
What I hear from you is "baa baa, 17 years 364 days = little innocent kid, 18 years = full grown responsible adult woman, baa". to which I submit that you're just proving you can't think for yourself or independently of what society tries to tell you. Plus, you obviously don't recall high school, or you just never got
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2, Insightful)
WTF? In some parts of the world I could kill you for looking at me funny. Does that make that right, too?
RE: Why? Because you say so?
I say so, the law says so, most people say so. I tell you what. You get caught in a compromising position with a 14 year old, and when you get to jail, you can tell the fellow inmates all your palaver crap about how it's OK because they do this in Cameroon. If you live, write me back. Looks to
Re:Emma Watson (Score:3)
Right, a basic fact: The human body is biologically designed to be attracted to anyone who is past the age of puberty.
Sorry, but that's the way it is - we're designed to start breeding as soon as we hit puberty so we can further the species - this comes from the days when humans barely made it past 25 if they lived to their old age, and babies and such were likely to die before they got anywhere near double-figures, thus it was important to pump out as many k
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
Now shut the fuck up about it. Your american ways dont apply here. Die, filthy american.
Ah, the genteel, erudite discourse of slashdot.
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What if she's of age where the OP lives?
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
Emma Watson lives in England, and the movie was made (to the best of my knowledge) there.
It was not made in Thailand, she isn't Thai, she doesn't come from a culture in which she's expected to be a sex object long before the age of consent.
She didn't sign up to do bikini scenes, she isn't topless in any scene - she's playing a repressed, bookworm nerd.
What you're in essence arguing is "don't project your mores on my society". Well, matey, she's English, and in England she's j
Re:Emma Watson (Score:3, Insightful)
Underage with underage, fair enough - though I don't think it's the perfect state of affairs it happens. I can of course have a problem with adults shacking up with kids. And I dunno about you but where I came from the 25 year old who knocked up the 15 year old ended up razor scarred and fleeing the province
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
What makes you think the father is underage? In many cases they're probably in their 20s or older: certainly the few specific cases I know of they mostly were.
"And I dunno about you but where I came from the 25 year old who knocked up the 15 year old ended up razor scarred and fleeing the province for his life."
And you talk about _decency_?
Frankly, I think you have more problems than the majority of people posting here. I sure don't watch 'Harry Potter' movies lookin
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
Nope, sorry. I see a bunch of kids standing by the bus stop, I want em to be kids. But then again I don't go around looking at everyone as potential sex objects, either.
RE: then I can only presume you're deluding yourself or have no libido...
No, just a sane libido. I don't find men attractive e
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
Hardly. Men are genetically programmed to find teenage girls attractive, because they can have lots of kids... you can dislike that if you want, but fighting genetic programming is usually a losing battle.
I don't really have any interest in shagging fifteen-year-olds, but that's because I wouldn't have much of anything to talk to them about afterwards, not because I'm a prude.
"Tweren't me, that was the rest of the estate."
But you seem to be the one having masturbation fantasies
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
I think babies are cute, and dogs are cute. I think certain works of fine art are pretty and beautiful as well.
But that doesn't mean I'm into doing babies, dogs, etc.
ROFL!!! (Score:4, Insightful)
YOUR kink, whatever it may be, is just fine and good. MY kink, however, is sick and twisted and disgusting.
I would point out to you that the age of consent in much of the world is 14, not 18, as you seem to believe. With some places as low as 12. So "underage" is a mere matter of location, at best.
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ [ageofconsent.com]
I find this entire concept of "age of consent" somewhat tenuous, at best. It seems to imply that there is an age at which one magically is able to make intelligent, rational decisions about their own body and their sexuality, and below that they're just too stupid and/or immature to make any such decision. If that were actually the concern, I know plenty of 30 year olds who aren't able to make said intelligent, rational decisions... and plenty of 12 year olds who are. People mature at different ages. Get over it.
And this post is courtesy of a 49-year-old married man with kids of my own, but, unlike you, with a rational view of human sexuality. So much for your idea that anyone who thinks such things are OK must have problems with adult relationships. As a libertarian, I believe it's no business of the State to get involved with anything two people do consentually in private.
Re:ROFL!!! (Score:3, Interesting)
As a Libertarian, you probably also are not living in the real world. Here in the real world, laws concerning age-of-consent are entirely necessary. Sure, in the worldly sense, they are arbitrary... but I also like to think the west has advanced since the days of, oh, I don't know... people getting married at 12.
If you feel otherwise, I suggest you keep an open mind when your 1
Re:ROFL!!! (Score:2, Flamebait)
He's more likely to be secretly wishing his 12 year o
Re:ROFL!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
If you think you know a 12 year old that is capable of understanding the consequences and is willing to consent to having sex with you, then you are mistaken. Finding some country that tolerates slavery does not make slavery okay.
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Well it's a funny country, the US... (Score:5, Insightful)
So if the underage person is the "molester", she understands everything, but if she is the "molestee", she understands nothing. That requires a few leaps of logic, but that is the way it is.
We're approaching the same kind of sillyness here. A 16yo can screw as much as they want with whoever they want, but if you take a picture of it it is child pornography. It's like saying you can smoke weed, but not take a picture of it. Go figure
Kjella
Re:Well it's a funny country, the US... (Score:2)
But in the end, a line still must be drawn. Those grey areas in between - let a judge figure it out... there are going to be some good
Re:Well it's a funny country, the US... (Score:3)
Age of Consent (Score:3, Interesting)
I find this entire concept of "age of consent" somewhat tenuous, at best. It seems to imply that there is an age at which one magically is able to make intelligent, rational decisions about their own body and their sexuality, and below that they're just too stupid and/or immature to make any such decision. If that were actually the concern, I know plenty of 30 year olds who aren't able to make said intelligent, rational decisions... and plenty of 12 year olds who are. People mature at different ages. Get o
Re:ROFL!!! (Score:2)
As a Green-party kind of guy, I can relate to people often misrepresenting your party. I see the Greens as Libertarians in terms of civil
Re:Emma Watson (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, I dislike pedophilia as much as the next guy, but the sort of furious demagogue rhetoric I hear from some people in this forum sounds like someone trying to inflame a mob to lynch a witch to me.
Further more, Emma Watson [wikipedia.org] is 15 years old, which makes her below [wikipedia.org] age of consent, but only barely, so you are actually justified in your moral out
Re:Emma Watson (Score:3, Insightful)
It was the server I threatened with a bat.
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Imagine someone in the 1950s proposing that thongs be marketed to five year olds.
Imagine someone, even in the swingin 60s, proposing that stiletto heeled hooker boots be made in four year old sizes.
Think they'd have kept their jobs, if not their front teeth?
So why is it acceptable today?
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Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
Maybe you should consider changing that state of affairs.
Re:Emma Watson (Score:2)
I really want to put a link to the Jason Killingsworth Hermione Countdown here, but the domain is gone. Too much hatemail I guess.
Re:Very interesting.....! (Score:2)
this has started a huge flame war over nothing
Re:Very interesting.....! (Score:5, Insightful)
I can't tell you how many times I've been out and seen a girl where I honestly couldn't work out the faintest clue as to how old she was - anywhere between 15 and 26. I'm in my 20s and not the least bit interested in anyone under 21, but in some cases, you genuinely can't tell from looks alone.
It's a pain in ass, but it's life, so I think going near-ballistic because someone dares observe that 15 year olds can be (and often are) sexual is a little baffling. I know one very sexy, gorgeous 24-year-old night-clubbing girl who has even commented out-of-the-blue that she really doesn't like going to all-ages events because the 14 year olds make her feel so unsexy and plain in comparison.
And I guarentee you she isn't creepily projecting fantasies on those girls. Many, if not most 14 year olds are NOT asexual chidren. They are sexual beings. You don't have to like it (I don't, she doesn't), but that's the way the world is.
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What if the story was about a new video card, is that pimping?
I think Slashdot should cover geek things in general - be they scientific, technical, or cultural.
Re:yo yo ma (Score:5, Insightful)
Not only is this old, but it hardly seems fitting for the /. main page. I realize the books are much-loved and all, but let's be serious. Do we really need Slashdot pimping movie trailers? I'm sure a good majority of us hit apple.com/movies often enough anyway. I prefer /. to report on cool tech stuff, not hollywood bullshit.
I'd prefer /. to go without the endless Microsoft-bashing and Apple/Google fanboyism, but one can't always get what one wants. The great thing about the internet is that you get to decide what you click on. There's plenty of other stories on the front page, if you don't like this one, why whinge about it? You could always try submitting something you'd like to see on the main page yourself.
Personally, I'm looking forward to the fourth movie after seeing the trailer. I wasn't very impressed with the first two, but I think the third made up for them and then some.
Re:yo yo ma (Score:3, Insightful)
Slashdot has plenty of news in different areas, and in many of them I have absolutly no interest, but other people obviously do. There is a visible interest for StarWars, StarTrek, Lord of the Rings, HitchHiker's guide and so on. Harry Potter isn't far from that category of films. If it had been "When Harry met Sally" I would have jumped, but Harr
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