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24 Hours Of Beethoven's 9th Symphony 380

Ermintrude the Flying Cow writes "Ever wonder what "Ode to Joy" would sound like if stretched to 24 hours? Now you can find out. 9 Beet Stretch is the result of running Beethoven's 9th Symphony in a digital stretching program, turning the one hour piece into a 24 hour attention span acid test. Thankfully, for those of us who know our limits, it's been cut into 19 parts."
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24 Hours Of Beethoven's 9th Symphony

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  • by Zandromeda ( 265310 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:01PM (#4777186)
    Why?

    Finally someone who has more time on their hands than I do.
    • I have only one question... Why?

      Finally someone who has more time on their hands than I do.

      Because you're so busy posting such "Why?" questions?

    • by Blaede ( 266638 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:23PM (#4777284)
      Oughta be good.
    • Well, I'll try to give you the general idea in a nutshell.

      For those of you who do not follow space-rock, post rock, atmospheric, ambient, organic et al, this is basically a great idea.

      There are thousands of artists who release albums which have a similar sound to this one. Take Vir Unis [virunis.com] for example. It's ambient as it gets. Sure, he has more substance in his albums than just prolonged note progressions, but one you hear Vir Unis or other musician in the genre you'll get the general idea.

      There are other artists too, like Steve Roach, Michael Brook, etc.

      For one, I think this is highly innovative. In the past, to reinvent music, one would have to do a remix, play it with different instruments, etc. And the end result would be very similar. What separates these guys from the rest is how they were able to stretch the music and transform it from one genre to a totally new genre. Beethoven would have approved of this, if he was alive. After centuries, his music is going into a new territory which was not even heard of couple of decades ago. And as an added bonus, this is quite listenable. I've heard arrangements of SETI signals, space noise ambience, etc. And this ranks very high on top of that list.

      I could understand how many people feel this is pointless, as did I, until I had a chance to hear it. If you're familiar with ambience, you'll understand the significance of this pioneer effort.
      • Case in point: Robert Rich's Somnium, a DVD (a video disc no less, but with no video, how zen) filled with 7 hours (count 'em!) of ambient music.

        Totally listenable, and not at all boring.

        The name comes from the idea of a record 'tuned' for sleeping, but it's nice background (and sometimes foreground music) as well.

        Comes highly recommended, and i'd imagine, judging from this story, that there's more releases like this coming up...

      • I belive you're referring to Steve Reich, but close enough. And incidentally, only a very limited ammount of his music can be considered ambient, and he wasn't really a minimalist after about 1970 anyway (he hated the term really). Try listening to the 'opera "Einstein on the Beach" by Philip Glass. To me that's actually worse than the topic at hand. For some reason the title of this work reminds me of the title of said Philip Glass opera. interesting. Ambient music I like: Discrete Music by Brian Eno
        • Brian Eno (Score:5, Interesting)

          by sakusha ( 441986 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @08:48PM (#4777588)
          Interesting comparison to Eno and Discrete Music. If you read the liner notes to the original Discrete Music album, Eno talks about how he was laid up in the hospital, immobilized in a cast, when a friend came in and brought a record player with some classical music, he put it on to play and then left. The player was set to 16rpm instead of 33, so he was stuck listening to a slowed down album of Pachelbel's Canons. He said the album seemed to take hours, through his fog of pain and painkillers. He says it gave him the idea for ambient music.
          • Wow, I always wanted to simulate the pain and drug induced fuzzyness of being stuck in a hospital bed while imobilized in a cast. Now I can!!
          • Actually the liner notes from that album don't mention the 16/33 RPM, but it did talk about the fact that the music was just barely audible and Eno couldn't get up to fix it. "Discrete Music", which is a great album, is meant to be listened to at a very low volume (i.e., "ambient").

            Using tape loops and various analog "sampling" technologies he created 3 alternate versions of the Canon on side 2 played, for lack of better word, "sideways", each progressively more dissonant. Side 1 is the same idea, but uses, I believe different music.

            • Perhaps he rewrote the liner notes, I have a first edition on vinyl, and I definitely recall the 16/33 thing, in fact, I remember playing around with the album at different speeds on account of his description. I couldn't just make something like this up.
              • Re:Brian Eno (Score:3, Informative)

                by salmo ( 224137 )
                Sorry, don't mean to be a smartass, but your original comment inspired me to pull out my copy of Discreet Music and throw it on the turntable. I'm listening to it now.

                As I look on the back cover it says nothing regarding the 16/33 issue or even anything to do with the speed the record was played at. It was however played at a very low level, with only one of the stereo channels functioning. The end of the paragraph that describes the experience is more than worth the cost of the record in my opinion.

                This is the original release (that I was very excited to find in my local record shop, Last Chance Records). A copy of the text can be found on probably the best Eno site on the web here [hyperreal.org].

                One interesting thing about this album is that it is well documented. He explains the purpose and the method involved in creating the album and provides a operational diagram for the setup he used to create (or more accurately direct) it. I guess this appeals to the Computer Scientist in me as well as the music appreciator.
        • I belive you're referring to Steve Reich, but close enough.

          Actually, I'm pretty sure he was referring to Steve Roach [steveroach.com], who does ambient soundscapes and such. I was lucky enough to see him perform at a Cloudwatch event in Baltimore several years back. Brilliant shit.

  • by TerryAtWork ( 598364 ) <research@aceretail.com> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:01PM (#4777187)
    as watching grass grow....

  • by tmark ( 230091 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:02PM (#4777188)
    Ever wonder what "Ode to Joy" would sound like if stretched to 24 hours?

    Uhh, no ?
  • by nastro ( 32421 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:02PM (#4777189)
    Yet another way to get little Alex to try to off himself, O my brothers.
  • Unreal (Score:3, Insightful)

    by whereiswaldo ( 459052 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:05PM (#4777196) Journal

    Why do content producers insist on using RealAudio? Give me a real player and I'll listen to to the stream. I'm not installing spyware on my machine.
    • Why do content producers insist on using RealAudio? Give me a real player and I'll listen to to the stream. I'm not installing spyware on my machine.

      Isn't the Real Player precisely what you are trying to avoid? :)

    • Captain Open Source to the rescue!

      libreal [sourceforge.net]

      No need for real player.
    • What would be the easiest way of playing it in realplayer, grabbing the audio output, and turning it into a ogg file instead?

      You could quite quickly write a device that dumps its input to a file. Call it /dev/audio (or is it /dev/pcm?) and then play the realplayer to it. Then use mencoder to encode to any format you want..

  • 19? (Score:3, Funny)

    by limekiller4 ( 451497 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:05PM (#4777197) Homepage
    I just gotta know... Why 19 parts? Not 24? Not 48. Not 12. WHY 19?? I could see if they cordoned off each file to represent a fixed timelength of music, which would result in different filesizes, and thus the count would be screwy, but even that isn't the case.
    • Re:19? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TekReggard ( 552826 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:30PM (#4777322)
      The reason why they use 19 is related to musical content. If you divided it into 48, or even 24 even pieces, then you might accidentally stop it in the middle of a brilliant musical motion.



      In other words, whoever broke it up into sections was more worried about musical value and meaning, than file size and numerical sense. Think of your favorite piece of music from any genre, you wouldnt want it to, take a break, RIGHT in the middle of your favorite stanza, verse, etc.

  • 24 seconds. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Trusty Penfold ( 615679 ) <jon_edwards@spanners4us.com> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:06PM (#4777200) Journal

    It would be better compressed to 24 seconds - the neighbourhood dogs would go apeshit.
  • strange people (Score:4, Interesting)

    by lingqi ( 577227 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:09PM (#4777212) Journal
    Wow this is like Andy Warhol's film "Empire", only that it is probabbly not as artistically creative for its time.

    for those that don't know - Empire is a film where he (Andy Warhol) put a camera aiming at the empire state building in the morning, started the film, and let it ran EIGHT HOURS. ...

    right up there with watching corn grow and whatever.

    silly people that do silly things in the name of art.
    • Re:strange people (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Jonathan ( 5011 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:25PM (#4777303) Homepage
      And today someone who filmed a building for each hours would be arrested as a terrorist suspect...
    • Re:strange people (Score:5, Informative)

      by xinit ( 6477 ) <rmurray@@@foo...ca> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:33PM (#4777333) Homepage
      Apparently the theory behind Empire was that it could be displayed as a piece in a gallery... you could look at it and see an effectively still image. The image changed, of course, but not like you'd expect a MOVIE to.

      So, what the piece was was more of a painting or a photograph with some dynamic content.

      • Re:strange people (Score:3, Interesting)

        by delfstrom ( 205488 )
        Apparently the theory behind Empire was that it could be displayed as a piece in a gallery..

        And Leif Inge says this about the immediate future of 9beetstretch: (source: Sonoloco record reviews [swipnet.se])

        "I actually will use the sound in an installation in a bedrom in a gallery in Oslo in September (2002), making the symphony into bedchambermusic. People can lay down and listen (and maybe drift)"

        Perhaps this music would accompany Empire very well.

      • I just thought: Funny thing, people still do this. It's called a webcam.

        So I guess people don't think it's that strange, no matter if they know Warhol did something similar.

        (And for all those anonymous "live video cam" p0rn fans out there: You don't think all of them are live, do you?)

      • Re:strange people (Score:4, Informative)

        by lingqi ( 577227 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @09:28PM (#4777683) Journal
        I know "Empire" because I took a philosophy of art class.

        Now, I am probabbly getting a lot of this wrong and my professor will smack me for getting them wrong, but as far as I remembered, one of the mojor reasons why it was so "genius" is because it explored the medium of film and contrasted it to the ideas of stillness.

        The idea is that on a static medium (painting / photography), you obviously cannot show movement, as even the best painting is only the capture of a moment (lets not get into Van Gough and the funny square stuff for a second);

        Similarly, a moving medium like film can capture motion, but in turn, it REALLY captures something static in a much more "complete" sense than, say, a painting can - case in point, you can see the empire state building, unmoving amongst the birds (there is this famous scene when a seagull flew by), clouds, etc. This contrast of moving (the environment) and the still (the building) is only captureable, and experssed, on film. In turn, the stillness of the building is understood in a way that is unexpressable on a photograph, a painting, or whatever.

        Of course, maybe there are some obscure purpose to this stretching of the symphony too? I really don't know - one thing the class taught me was that art is wayyyy over my head. :-)
  • by Newer Guy ( 520108 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:10PM (#4777219)
    But it drags a bit....
  • It are stories like these which make me go "hey, funny that people think about doing these things". There isn't really a reason why it should be done (it doesn't save humanity (or does it?), it doesn't solve any problems (or does it?) but also, it doesn't cause problems) and it makes me ponder about life... Art rules!
  • If they'd just speed it up 24 times its current speed everyone could download it in 1/24th the time, and while they're at it they could give us a program to slow it down once downloaded to get the authentic experience.
  • by aaronhurd ( 630047 )

    I'm kind of confused, why people would do something like this. I mean, I'm an avid fan of classical music, but . . . digitally stretching it to a specific length?

    In my opinion, the best way to experience any classical masterpiece is in the key and tempo in which the composer intended. Granted, there is a large degree of interpretation in any musical performance, but perhaps stretching music digitally is going a bit too far.

    • There was some classical composer who did stuff like this to his own and others' music -- changed tempo or key, inverted it, whatever tortures** came to mind, just to see how it turned out. Can't remember who it was, tho it sounds like something Mozart would do. Anyway, point being, classical music can be about experimentation with its own form too, so no reason not to if that's what turns you on.

      ** I just had this weird vision of a musical score being stretched on a rack, then punctured in an iron maiden. :)

  • "Stairway to Heaven", "Freebird", any number of Pink Floyd? Maybe they could stretch Meddle out to 1 week. Hey, has anyone tried speeding up Phillip Glass stuff to see if it's just slowed down music?
  • a 24 hour ... acid test

    Isn't that how they came up with the idea?

    • AUM, dude... your forget that Beethoven was Illuminated.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      Having taken acid before, I would say no. This would annoy the shit out of someone tripping. 10 seconds and the acid-head in question would be bouncing off the walls for some entertainment.
  • Great. (Score:2, Funny)

    by MrEd ( 60684 )
    How long before this starts popping up in mobile ringtone format?
    • Re:Great. (Score:3, Funny)

      by suwain_2 ( 260792 )
      Just what we need... One of those !@#%@#% things going for 24 hours straight. :)

      The only thing worse would be if that Nokia ring was stretched for 24 hours and played from beginning to end...

  • Have a budist monk start chanting and a narrator talking about subtle raptures and you have Hearts of Space [hos.com] space music!

  • Now this is surreal. For once, the word "acid [everything2.org] test" is appropriate.
  • by flippet ( 582344 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:18PM (#4777264) Homepage
    (Pun intended, sorry)

    Someone here did a project last year to "derive" a new symphony by a composer. The idea was to analyse various pieces written by the chosen composer, find the common themes, and then use them to produce new pieces which would have the same "feel" as the originals.

    That way you end up with more music you like without making you think you've overdosed...

    Phil, just me

    • Didn't Art of Noise do this with Dubussy a while back?
    • PDQ Bach? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by wirefarm ( 18470 ) <jim@mmdCOWc.net minus herbivore> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @10:05PM (#4777812) Homepage
      A guy named Peter Schickele (Have no idea of the real spelling. Ok, lemme go google... Wow - I got it right.) a music professor and composer has been 'deriving' compositions, 11 albums' worth, of the mythical son of JS Bach, PDQ Bach.
      Funny stuff, yet very scholarly, in a weird way.

      Anyway, he has a website at pdqbach.com.

      His peices always have great names too, like Music for an Awful Lot of Winds and Percussion and The Short-Tempered Clavier and Other Dysfunctional Works for Keyboard. Worth a listen.

      Cheers,
      Jim

    • I know that this has been done with Beethoven. Some composer took the musical scraps that Beethoven had left lying around when he died that he was planning to use in another symphony, and filled in the gaps to create Beethoven's Tenth.

      It wasn't bad.

    • > Someone here did a project last year to "derive" a new symphony by a composer. The idea was to analyse various pieces written by the chosen composer, find the common themes, and then use them to produce new pieces which would have the same "feel" as the originals.

      Here [nec.com] is a link to a paper a guy(?) wrote about using neural networks to create fake Bartok melodies. Follow the links for more along the same lines.

      Of course, Bartok always sounded like sequences of random keystrokes to my Philistine tastes, so I can't judge how well the imitation worked.

  • Freude schÃner GÃtterfunke
    Tochter aus Elysium.

    How many lines to go?
    • The instruments in it sound great when timestretched!

      I'll bet that a large choir would also timestretch very well. But timestretching a single voice might result in some problems.

      Oh, and here are the lyrics that you were thinking of:

      O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
      Sondern lasßt uns angenehmere anstimmen
      Und freudenvollere!

      Freude schöner Götterfunken,
      Tochter aus Elysium,
      Wir betreten feuertrunken,
      Himmliche dein Heiligtum!
      Deine Zauber binden wieder,
      Was die Mode streng geteilt;
      Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
      Wo dein sanfter Flugel weilt

      Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
      Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
      Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
      Mische seinen Jubel ein!
      Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
      Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
      Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
      Weinend sich aus diesem Bund

      Freude trinken alle Wesen
      An den Brüsten der Natur;
      Alle Guten, alle Bösen
      Folgen ihrer Rosenspur.
      Küsse gab sie uns und Reben,
      Einen Freund, geprüft im Tod;
      Wollust ward dem Wurm gegeben,
      Und der Cherub steht vor Gott!

      Froh, wie seine Sonnen fliegen
      Durch des Himmels prächt'gen Plan,
      Laufet, Brüder, eure Bahn,
      Freudig, wie ein Held zum Siegen

      Seid umschlungen, Millionen
      Diesen Kuß der ganzen Welt!
      Brüder! Über'm Sternenzelt
      Muß ein lieber Vater wohnen.
      Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen?
      Ahnest du den Schöpfer, Welt?
      Such' ihn über'm Sternenzelt!
      Über Sternen muß er wohnen
  • by AltImage ( 626465 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:20PM (#4777268) Homepage
    At 24 hours, I don't think "Ode to Joy" is really appropriate anymore.

    Then again, isn't an ode a song or poem in remembrance to something lost? In that case it may be all too fitting.
  • by phaxkolumbo ( 572192 ) <phaxkolumbo@@@gmail...com> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:21PM (#4777275)

    Timestretching has been featured exclusively on electronic music tracks for quite a while now... Just think those drum'n'bass records with the words 'selekta' etc.

    Apparently Aphex Twin once was supposed to remix a track, so he timestretched it to a couple of milliseconds and used it as a snare drum, and when the bloke came back to get the ready remix, he just grabbed a random DAT-tape and gave it back to him...

    One Nine inch nails strack features the words ' erase your head' stretched to the duration of the track (ummh, 5 minutes or so), so you can hear the words if you fast forward the track.

    And this is not even mentioning Autechre (and many others) which these days just live on the digital artifacts caused by timestretching.

    But, still, it's cool to find use for this sort of thing... i wonder what they used to create the 24-h stretch

  • ***ActiveSX tries to find a less "for Nerds" story than this...

    Ah ha! It took a while, but I finally found one [slashdot.org].
    • Actually, this is for nerds. Nerds use Linux and free software, remember? This piece of "contemporary" music is actually made in Linux, with snd software. But it's not news at all, I listened to this back in july. I found it quite interesting, since it sounds a lot like modern ambient eletronica. It also sounds very unlike Beethoven, although it's note for note exactly the same (it's stretched in the time domain while the frequency domain stays the same).

      So it's obviously a political statement too, since it is a completely unoriginal work (it's only one long sample), although musically very different from the original. This should touch upon the old /. theme of "fair use". Imagine if they did this with a song by James Brown! His record companies would be on them like the Loch Ness monster on $3.50. (Hell, now I want to try that. But I won't release the results on the web.)
      • I never said it wasn't, I just said that the monkey automaton story had less "for nerd"-yness.

        ***ActiveSX grabs a copy of snd and some James Brown mp3s
  • by mcc ( 14761 ) <amcclure@purdue.edu> on Thursday November 28, 2002 @07:34PM (#4777334) Homepage
    Most digital stretching filters i've heard-- even the ones in professional music programs like ProTools and Logic Audio-- cause the output to be exceedingly gravelly and robotized, like they're being played through a digital cell phone that's slowly giving out. The resulting sound is possible to be used in a musically interesting manner, but it definitely doesn't sound like something a classical music fan would find pleasant to listen to, in my experience.

    How did the stretch turn out in this thing? Is it relatively smooth, or is it just like listening to a rotor slowly changing pitch to form something similar to beethoven's 9th? No, of course i'm not going to listen to it myself, especially not when there are X number of slashdotters pounding on their poor realaudio server. Though i may check out this "Herb Levys Mappings" page they link to, if i ever find the correct link. (Theirs is busted. Actually, pretty much everything linked from that first page seems to be slashdotted at this point. Ah well.)

    And if it did turn out smoothly, will someone please tell me what software they used for the time expansion, because i want a copy :)
  • 24 hours long.....and I'm off work tommorrow.

    I feel a day of absolute sloth coming on....

    -Chris
  • 24 hours? That is nothing.


    The following story is no joke.


    After building a decicated organ (US$ 700000) the first notes will begin to be played on January 5th, 2003 in St. Burchardi Church in Halberstadt, Germany. The first accord (gis', h' and gis'') will continue for three years, the first additional note will be heard on Juli 5th, 2004. The whole piece will take 639 years to be finished.


    The first large church organ in history was built 639 years ago in Halberstadt - this is why the piece is stretched to 639 years. The original John Cage composition (the music was not composed for this occasion) contains an instruction to play as slowly as possible, and now a dedicated team of artists and sponsors is taking this seriously.


    The organ was built with redundant air compressors, UPS and diesel generator buffering, hot-swappable organ parts, and everything else required to allow uninterrupted playing for 639 years.


    More info at http://www.welt.de/daten/2000/09/13/0913ku190585.h tx [www.welt.de] (in German).

  • by corvi42 ( 235814 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @08:08PM (#4777459) Homepage Journal
    Wow, this sounds exactly like the opening 20 minutes of blackness to 2001! Now we finally know what Kubrik was doing - he was torturing a reel-to-reel copy of Beethoven's Ninth, cool!
    • Spielberg too (Score:3, Insightful)

      by freeweed ( 309734 )
      Spielberg did it as well for AI - he took a 10 minute story and stretched it out into 3 hours.

      Oddly enough, 24 hrs of B's 9th seems to go by much quicker than Steven's attempt...
  • Not even "like" as in "admire the idea" -- in fact, I don't find it that interesting as a concept -- but I really, really like it aesthetically. It's quite perfect for concentrating on work without becoming a distraction. (And it doesn't have that icky residue you get with New-Age music! ;)

    I wish the entire thing were available in a non-streaming format.
  • this is nothing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by GoatPigSheep ( 525460 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @08:26PM (#4777527) Homepage Journal
    being able to stretch songs has been a feature in most professional audio editors (like soundforge or cooledit) for the last 4 or 5 years. It sounds like crap btw, because the computer has to fill in missing data that isn't there... and you get the a stuttury 'robotic' tone to whatever sound you put through it.
    • I agree that most time-stretch algorithms suck horribly, but there are a few that really work quite well and i'm thinking of Prosoniq TimeFactory specifically.

      I dont really know what the mechanics behind it are, but it claims to "use[s] an artificial neural network for time series prediction in the scale space domain to achieve high end time and pitch scaling."

      The scaling range in which you really cant tell the difference is in the order of 1/3 of the original length either way. So a 120bpm track becomes 90 or 160bpm without any major noticeable artifacts or distortion. I personally use it to repitch samples rather than using Recycle because I think the resultant sample just 'sounds better' than the artificial slice stretching of Recycle.

      Whether or not they used this to strecth this particular piece of music I counldnt say, but I'm thinking of downloading one of the 19 parts and recompressing it back to the original length to see how accurately it returns to the original. Be interesting to see anyway.
  • by Dr. Awktagon ( 233360 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @08:27PM (#4777531) Homepage

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  • ... would be to cram all his symphonys into 240 seconds, getting it over with and release all that time for doing something more (or less, if preferred) usefull. Like stretching the latest hip hop hit into lasting 24 hours, giving it a beat you can actually dance to. :-)
  • If Beethoven sounds like Ligeti when slowed, does Ligeti sound like Beethoven when sped up?
  • by wackybrit ( 321117 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @09:16PM (#4777661) Homepage Journal
    I took one of those pictures of Natalie Portman topless on the beach, enlarged it to 50,000 by 50,000 pixels, and I spend my days nestled about 3,000 pixels into her left nipple. It's a really nice place.
  • ...we have the ability to run the entire 24 Hours of Le Man's in one hour, courtesy Sony's PlayStation. What better way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend, mixing Beethoven and Le Man's racing :)
  • Just a nitpick (Score:5, Informative)

    by selan ( 234261 ) on Thursday November 28, 2002 @09:41PM (#4777720) Journal
    <pedantry>

    "Ode to Joy" is a poem written by Schiller. Beethoven used the poem as the lyrics for the fourth movement of the symphony, which is the choral section and most famous part of the symphony. The symphony also has three other movements, so it's not really accurate to refer to the whole symphony no. 9 as "Ode to Joy."

    </pedantry>

    Phew. Now that's off my chest, you can continue about your business.
    • Good point, and I hesitate to nitpick your nitpicking, but alas if you can't do that sort of thing on Slashdot, where can you?

      The post didn't refer to the entire symphony as Ode to Joy. All it said was "Ever wonder what 'Ode to Joy' would sound like if stretched to 24 hours?". You could say the same thing about Mars if somebody did this with the larger work, The Planets. They never suggested that Ode to Joy and the Symphony were one in the same.

      Ah, that's better. Now I feel so much geekier.

  • imagine doing it with live musicians.

    and now imagine if you were the conductor and had to keep the beat...
  • It was the next day, brothers, and I had truly done my best, morning and afternoon, to play it their way and sit like a horrorshow co-operative malchick in the chair of torture, while they flashed nasty bits of ultra-violence on the screen.; though not on the soundtrack, my brothers. The only sound being music. Then I noticed in all my pain and sickness what music it was that like cracked and boomed. It was Ludwig van ó 9th symphony, 4th movement.

    I'm surprised nobody caught on to this yet.... fer shame
  • The phonemail system where I work can digitally slow our messages down just by pressing "7" repeatedly. If anybody else wants to leave this song on my voicemail at work, I'll slow it down a bunch and get out my stopwatch.

    Or, I could press "9" furiously and make songs faster. Reggae becomes ska! w00t!
  • And at the other end of the spectrum is "Watashi Tamagoyaki", a sped of version of Ode to Joy with lyrics about an omlette added to it. It's the ending theme for the anime series "Dragon 1/2" (of which only a few episodes were made before the creators were arrested on drug charges).
  • Unfortunately this is only being offered in Real Audio format. It would be very nice to have this in at least mp3 or ogg format so one could listen to them on something other than a PC.

    Maybe I'm one of the few that would burn the 19 or so CDs required and throw them in may changer + repeat for a few days. Of course I'd probably have to end up opening up soundforge and fixing the files so there would be 1 per CD, but I'd even do that.

    Unfortunatly I don't have real player, nor the software to work with these files and I am not willing to install it. This has to do with my unwillingness to support Real and their practices and is an issue that will not be changed by whether or not music is available only in that format. Call me principled.

    If the creator happens to read this please allow your audience to actually appreciate your work, and if someone else has somehow done the conversion already and managed to maintain a somewhat clear copy of the audio please either post here or let me know.
  • Section 5.2 (Score:3, Informative)

    by PurpleBob ( 63566 ) on Friday November 29, 2002 @01:01AM (#4778433)
    Unless you're intensely familiar with all parts of Beethoven's Ninth, you'll probably get the most recognition out of listening to section 5.2. That's the choral "Ode To Joy" section that most people know.
  • It's like watching flies fuck.

    (Apologies to George Carlin, who first used that simile to refer to watching golf on TV)

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