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Sony Intentionally Crashes Customers' Computers

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the new-day-has-come dept.

Music 1209

Uttles writes "According to Yahoo!, Celine Dion's latest CD will not play in computer drives. In fact: 'Should the consumer try to play Dion's CD on a PC or Macintosh, the computer likely will crash.' How is this legal?" Since Sony admits that their product is designed to cause damage to your computer system, almost anyone would likely have a good lawsuit against them. Attention Celine Dion and all musicians: crashing your fans' computers is not a good business practice. No matter what your agent says.

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Celine Dion, eh? (5, Funny)

Roosey (465478) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280953)

Are you sure it's the protection? I would say that the computers they tested it on had good taste, that's all. :)

Re:Celine Dion, eh? (5, Funny)

Salamander (33735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280991)

That can't be it. A computer with good taste would eject the disk immediately, without even thinking about playing it.

Re:Celine Dion, eh? (2, Insightful)

c4tp (526292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281116)

Seriously, I don't think this music needs copy protection. The people who listen to it are NOT the type who pirate a lot of music, and I can't imagine more than 1 person would want the CD. But that's still no reason to crash the 12 year old girl's machine!

Frost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280954)

Wow, I was able to both read the summary AND get first post! How does that work?

Re:Frost (1)

candle_power (549703) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280992)

Two words, Celine Dion :)

Re:Frost (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281044)

It works like this:
- AC Thinks AC is clever.
- AC jerks off.
- AC wipes self off with towel and gets second post.

Too bad!

You aren't making sense (3, Informative)

ChazeFroy (51595) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280956)

Since Sony admits that their product is designed to cause damage to your computer system, almost anyone would likely have a good lawsuit against them.

How would that make a good lawsuit? Seems to me that Sony is covering its ass by letting the consumer know up front, which would make the lawsuit more difficult.

Re:You aren't making sense (1)

beta21 (88000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281020)

Also on the CD it says don't play this on a PC or MAC.

IF this crashed your expensive CD-player than that would be another matter.

Re:You aren't making sense (0)

Cenam (567580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281045)

hehe..play it on a work comp since pc is techniclly a personal computer, then you can sue thier dumb asses:)

Re:You aren't making sense (2, Funny)

xTina (548009) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281093)

What are they telling people? That it won't play on PCs. Or that it will crash their computers, potentially causing loss of important data? I remember, when those audio cds with a video/data track as track one came up, they had a huge warning label telling you not to try to play track one because it might damage your stereo ... And .. what would they say if your roommate takes the CD (that happens to lie on your desk without case and booklet) and tries to play it on the computer you both own ... crashing it ... causing you to loose all data of your term paper one day before it's due ... oh, wait ... they'll sue YOU ... letting your roommate listen to music he hasn't paid for ;-)

Damn. (5, Funny)

sllort (442574) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280957)

Your heart may go on, but your computer won't.

truth (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280961)

dion must die!

april fools! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280964)

No one listens to Celine Dion! April Fools!

Hmm (2, Funny)

BSDGeek (528577) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280965)

Well maybe I should buy this CD. I could use a couple million bucks.

Proventing Suicide (0, Offtopic)

polarkittycat (454695) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280967)

I would try it to see if it actually does crash my computer.. but I would probably be forced to kill myself from listening to the music if it did play....

Are you sure sony isn't protecting suicide?

Re:Proventing Suicide (2)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280979)

Heh.

I'm tempted to get it and trying to rip the tracks with as high a quality as possible...and then e-mail them individually (as WAV files, not MP3s) to Sony.

Re:Proventing Suicide (3, Funny)

shoptroll (544006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281014)

Actually, I just showed this to one of my roomates and he said he hasn't had a problem with it...

-shoptroll

Re:Proventing Suicide (1)

GreenHell (209242) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281117)

Actually, I just showed this to one of my roomates and he said he hasn't had a problem with it...

Where was the CD bought?

The CD's protected with Key2Audio were apparently only released in Germany and several other European countries. So unless you happen to be European, of course your CD is going to play. (If you are European, it is guaranteed to play unless there's a great big warning on the front booklet, the back of the jewel case, and the CD itself)

ANd this is a *feature* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280969)

Sounds like a microsoft product, doesnt it?

Canadians... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280970)

What do they know anyway?

Is this supposed to be... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280973)

a punishment?

Celine Virus Alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280978)

I can't decide which is more annoying:

a) Actually listening to Celine Dion
b) Having Windows crash one extra time per day

i wonder... (2, Funny)

BigBir3d (454486) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280980)

...wtf is sony thinking? undermining another sector of their business??

Crashing Computers (5, Funny)

nick_davison (217681) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280981)

<all too obvious crashing joke>
Crashing computers are nothing. Put Celine's CD in to your car while you're driving and it'll make you crash that too, just to end the god awful experience.
</all too obvious crashing joke>

fp (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280983)

fp

cdparanoia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280984)

How long before cdparanoia is patched to read these cd's?

Re:cdparanoia (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281011)

It would be extremely ironic if these cd's could only be played back on linux machines.

Re:cdparanoia (2)

red5 (51324) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281071)

Actualy the cdparanoia idea is even MORE ironic in that cdparanoia is a ripper and not a player.
You have to rip the tracks to play them now THATS ironic.

We've come full circle (1)

joeflies (529536) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281122)

Before users could play DVDs on Mac and Windows, but not linux. Now perhaps there are CDs that don't play on Mac and Windows, but only Linux

Little Chance (1)

apathyruiner (222745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280985)

of this crashing my computer. Anyone notice how the artists at the top of the charts don't have copy protected CDs?

Re:Little Chance (1)

Tetrad69 (526053) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281068)

Anyone notice how the artists at the top of the charts don't have CDs worth having?

The users were warned! (5, Informative)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280986)

Quoth the article:

"According to a spokeswoman for Sony Music Entertainment, it is clearly stated on the front of the booklet and on the back of the jewel box that the CD "will not play on a PC or a Mac" in the language of the country in which it is sold. Besides those notices, which the spokeswoman said were readable before purchase, the disc itself bears the same warning."

And physical damage to the computer is supposedly in the firmware of the drives (on macs)

"On the German discussion boards at MacFixit, Mac users claim that the CD will not eject using normal methods and that the intentional corruption of the disc's session data could unpredictably affect the drive's firmware." But Sony said that the firmware problem is not real.

Please keep in mind that I'm not saying that any of this is right or ethical. It's just that the post doen't completely represent what happenned (and I am sure that article has some shortcomings in the 'truth dapartment' too.)

Computer's way of saying no more? (0, Redundant)

Hates (168348) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280987)


Are you sure the machine isn't crashing becasue it would simply rather kill itself that play a Celine Dion CD?

Who cares about MACs? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3280989)

Only fags use a MAC. Jeez.

Re:Who cares about MACs? (1)

atrowe (209484) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281072)

Yeah, but they make up Celene's largest fanbase.

What geek would ever... (0, Troll)

lhbtubajon (469284) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280993)

...play Celine Dion? Seriously?

Illegal? (1)

Loki_1929 (550940) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280995)

Naaa, Windows has been crashing my PC for yeeaarrs and I've never had anyone tell me I should sue them.

Considering it's Celine Dion... (0, Redundant)

Penis (301334) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280996)

This is prolly more a blessing than a curse.

Pen-15

Out of retirement (2)

Hadean (32319) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280997)

Maybe someone in Sony secretly didn't want her to come out of retirement (ugh), so they used her as a test case, hoping this'll push her right back in thanks to all of the bad publicity she'll get... or maybe that's just my hope?

Sony vs. Microsoft (1)

pyrrho (167252) | more than 12 years ago | (#3280999)

I think this is just a, "look, we can too" aimed at Microsoft as part of the growing Sony vs. Microsoft war.

Celine may be on to something... (1, Redundant)

ryanvm (247662) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281000)

This is probably just a way to boost her sales.

I know that the only Celine Dion CD that I would ever buy is one that doesn't play.

Oh well (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281001)

Yet another reason not to buy it. Remember South Park: when Canada is dead and gone, there'll be no more Celine Dion! Sounds good to me.

Dearest Michael (-1, Troll)

Flarners (458839) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281002)

From the article:
Since Sony admits that their product is designed to cause damage to your computer system, almost anyone would likely have a good lawsuit against them.
I'm fairly sure you are NOT a lawyer (no matter what pretentions you may hold), and it's probably not wise to be doling out what amounts to legal advice like that. Do you realise that, if someone were to read that, sue Sony and fail, they could hold you liable? Please think before you append your worthless commentaries to the article, or at least put those commentaries in the comments section so we can mod you down to (-1, Jackass). Thank you.

Re:Dearest Michael (-1, Offtopic)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281121)

Thank you ever so much Flarners.

MOD PARENT [slashdot.org] UP!!

At least its Celene D-yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281003)

and not something I would listen to. The last CD I bought was the Queen of the Damned soundtrack, which plays fine. If it didnt, back it would go and it would be the last cd I purchased from that record company, a piece of information I would share with them. They may not care about me personally, but eventually the letters add up.

Moderators need to get informed! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281005)

ATTENTION, MODERATORS:

Over the past few weeks I've been seeing an awful lot of totally obvious anti-Linux trolls...which is fine, as a troll now and then is no big deal. The problem arises when someone gets trolled horribly and posts a long, detailed response to the troll about the shortcomings of Windows, etc. THESE PEOPLE HBT, THEY HL, THEY SHOULD HAVE A NICE DAY. THEY SHOULD NOT BE MODDED UP TO +3!

...fucking idiots.

Come on! (1)

Negadin (261695) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281006)

"The CD will probably cause a system to crash, but it will not alter anything," the spokeswoman said. "And it won't eject properly, but that's just because the computer has crashed."

Crashes will not alter anything?

When did sony make computers that retain all their data after a crash?

It's all about the liability (1)

The FooMiester (466716) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281012)

Sony is just trying to cover their respective bottoms, due to this [theregister.co.uk] recent problem. They figure no mal-adjusted nerds will listen to the cd and kill themselves this way, only conformist sheep who listen to their cds on regular hardware.

LF_)#NFNFNFQAK)@02-123041JFOA904jJ-0jfas

this is insane... (1)

Hitch (1361) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281013)

how does anyone think that alienation is going to bring in MORE money? <br> thank god no one has used this for a CD I'd like to buy...of course, the only CDs I've bought in the last few years have been gifts. I am, however, going to go immediately out and buy all the Carbon Leaf CD's. They're an AMAZING unsigned band. Even have some of their own tablature up on their web site for free (some, not a lot). <a href=http://carbonleaf.com>Carbonleaf.com</a ><br>
warning, there is flash in use here...the web site itself isn't amazing, but the music is. There's a pretty good mp3 of "What Child is this" that you should check out. I mean it.

it's only fair... (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281015)

Celine Dion has been damaging my sanity, why shouldn't her CD damage my computer?

Hint? (1)

paranoid.android (71379) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281017)

Attention Celine Dion and all musicians

A not-so-subtle hint that maybe Celine isn't a musician herself?

...which is, of course, correct.

Legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281018)

Bout as legal as the money that pays off the
DOJ, Legislature, etc.

One nation, under corporate law.

MINAL (1)

sllort (442574) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281019)

Michael Is Not a Lawyer

Since Sony admits that their product is designed to cause damage to your computer system, almost anyone would likely have a good lawsuit against them.

There's a warning in my car owner's manual that admits that pouring gasoline all over myself and lighting a match may cause permanent injury or death. I should sue them!

"Will not play on PC" != "Will damage PC" (3, Insightful)

yerricde (125198) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281101)

There's a warning in my car owner's manual that admits that pouring gasoline all over myself and lighting a match may cause permanent injury or death. I should sue them!

I am not a lawyer, but I don't see how a rational judge would interpret the warning label "Will not play on PC" as "If inserted into a PC, may irreversibly damage PC hardware". Sony's best bet here is to blame the CD-ROM drive manufacturers and shift the damage to their warranty. In that case, if it's a Sony drive, tough sh*t for Sony.

I don't think so (1)

rootmonkey (457887) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281021)

The CD will not eject using normal methods and that the intentional corruption of the disc's session data could unpredictably affect the drive's firmware.

The article then says.

Firmware is a combination of hardware and software instructions that are permanently embedded in the hardware's controlling chips, such as with a computer's CD-ROM, and altering it could cause permanent damage.)

Right, cause you can really cause permanent damage to permanently embedded instructions . I think the real permanent damage would occur if you actually listened to Celine Dion's music.

What about Autorun.ini? (3, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281024)

If Sony wanted to be obnoxious, they could write a program that starts when Autorun is activated. It could cover the screen and say "YOU CANT PLAY THIS HERE!!!", and then send a signal to the CD ROM to eject the CD. When somebody puts it back in... and so on.

Yes, this would be easy to get around. But I'd far prefer that then causing a BSOD.

Re:What about Autorun.ini? (1)

lburdet (552112) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281048)

how is preventing me to listen to a CD an incentive to buy it????
who the hell has a sound system that isn't a 19" rackmount? ;)

Poor kernel hackers (5, Funny)

red5 (51324) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281025)

Now some poor kernel hackers will have to listen to this music so they can code a workaround for the linux kernel.
I feel there pain. Just rember this is for the greater good. :)

maybe if this sort of CD protection worked... (1)

iguana (8083) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281026)

...the entertainment 'tainment industry will drop crap like SSSCA.

Why bother mandating copy protection and making the non-music people suffer through crappy software when there is no need?

Pay for the damn music. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Duh. Vote with your wallet.

/me runs out to the store, buy open and return (5, Informative)

Drakino (10965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281029)

Ohh, another confirmed, mass distributed copy protected CD. Time to make another round and buy these, open them, and return them. Remember, thats the best way to get the message across, at their cost. And if the stores eat the cost, they will get upset with Sony, and end up solving it as well.

http://riocar.org/cd/ [riocar.org] for the 7 I have returned to date.

Re:/me runs out to the store, buy open and return (5, Insightful)

red5 (51324) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281047)

Exept they have a BIG warning sticker on the front.
If I was the store manager I would not exept returns on this cd.
"Sorry pal you were the idot that bought Celien Deion".

Re:/me runs out to the store, buy open and return (3, Informative)

jgerman (106518) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281073)

You're not likely to get very far doing the "buy,open,return" scheme here. The cd is labelled, that's only a protest of un-labelled cd's.

Crash? (1)

Carbonite (183181) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281030)

Dave Matthews Band should sue that beyatch for stealing their work.

Carbonite

Sony denies the allegations?: (1)

Merik (172436) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281031)

"The CD will probably cause a system to crash, but it will not alter anything," How is crashing a system "not altering" it? Looks like we may be seeing the begining of trend towards destructive copy protection.

the obligatory "and in other news..." post (1)

liquidsin (398151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281032)

Firing at your computer with a 12 gauge from close range isn't good for it either, but would you sue Smith & Wesson for damages when you blew a hole in your case? The fact that Sony is admitting that this will cause crashes probably protects them from liability. It may not be the best business strategy, but that's not really the issue here. Now if it caused my stereo to crash, I'd be pissed. Any news on whether we'll see this *protection* on any worthwhile discs?

Swan Song.... (2, Funny)

dghcasp (459766) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281033)

<celene>
And I.....
will always....
love yoooooouuuuugggghhfdbfdshjk^Y$&#^^&(*@!(*)#&@!*(
Blue screen of death

I like it. I think Microsoft should license Celene's music to play as your computer crashes... Nice and mournful...

Re:Swan Song.... (3, Informative)

jgerman (106518) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281099)

Isn't that Whitney Houston?

lawsuit eh? (1)

americanFatCat (550598) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281036)

Well I believe it's time to run some important, irreplaceable business program while listening to Dion's lovely cd.

...oh dear.

Yeah, Celine Dion moved me...

TO A BIGGER HOUSE!

How fast will it be ripped? (5, Insightful)

chill (34294) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281039)

Hours? Minutes? Seconds? It shouldn't take long for the entire CD to appear on the Gnutella network and other P-2-P sessions. In fact, it will probably be one of the most ripped CDs of all time, just out of spite -- not that anyone wants to listen to it.

Thank you Sony (0, Redundant)

RealTimeFreeAgent (551563) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281041)

Making Celine Dion record to unplayable CrippleDiscs sounds like a public service to me.

Now if they start doing this with MUSIC CDs, it's time for the torches and pitchforks.

A-D (1)

iotaborg (167569) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281042)

Too bad none of this copy protection stuff works... instructions to make your cd:


-CD Player that plays CD

-Soundcard that has an Analog->Digital convertor

-Sound recording program



Voila! Recepie to make your own "digitized" music, burn it, or put it on gnutella or whatever!

They really will never learn...

Avoiding RIAA affiliated labels (2, Interesting)

Coryoth (254751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281046)

I'm not really too troubled by this. For a while now I've been buying CDs from smaller recording companies. Occasionally they use big lables for distribution, but they still turn out the CDs themselves, and I really doubt they'd bother with this.

To be honest it's been quite productive really. By seeking out smaller labels I've encountered a vast number of truly great artists that I'd never heard of. There really is a vast supply of great music out there by small labels - you just have to look a little harder.

Protesting the RIAA isn't as hard as you might think, just put in a little bit of effort.

Jedidiah
--

Philips (1)

MoceanWorker (232487) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281051)

I really think this scenario is an open door for Philips to take action against the whole CD copyprotected cases. Let's not forget, Philips is the the holder of the most CD digital audio (CD-DA) patents. If they do something here, it will make them look like the good guys, and maybe even open up a whole new case about why CD's cannot be copyrighted...

But now.. as I conclude.. I wonder if any sort of payola was involved with Sony asking Philips to keep their mouths shut. I'd hope by now Philips would take some sort of action against Sony.

:-\

oh no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281053)

i cant listen to a crappy CD on my machine? feh, like i care, all my music is in mp3 form anyway, and i rip a CD to mp3 when I get one (which is RARE). My music is also way more interesting than Celine Dion's.

Heh (1)

CoCo Buckets (184480) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281054)

Some might say you deserved the crash..:P

Celine Dion (1, Redundant)

nickynicky9doors (550370) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281055)

When I hear Celine Dion I know it's time for me to crash.

Still some work to do (1)

switcha (551514) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281057)

Celine Dion's latest CD will not play in computer drives.

An excellent first step. Now, on to home players and portables!

Intentional Harm (5, Insightful)

Boulder Geek (137307) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281059)

If Sony tried to market this thing in the U.S. they would probably run afoul of state and Federal Consumer Protection Agencies. In spite of what Sony may claim, any sudden crash of a computer has the potential to cause irrepairable harm. I seriously doubt that any company can dodge responsibility with a printed disclaimer. Which of course explains why this copy protection (ha!) is only being sold in Europe. In the litigious U.S. they would very likely get into trouble very quickly.

not much to worry about ... (1)

fayd (143105) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281061)

I don't think we have that much to worry about. The more crap they pull, the more people they piss off. $20 for a CD? Thanks! May I have another? Personally, I haven't expanded my music collection (CD, MP3, whatever) since Napster shutdown. It's too hard to find anything good these days, and I'm not wasting $20 on crap (or something I don't know).

Is it any wonder my interest in new music is dwindling to nothing? And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Sony has right to decide what system I use? (1)

dsconrad (532462) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281063)

This seems like it should be illegal somehow. It seems, at least to me, that I should have the ability to play a cd that I bought on any system I want. Will we next see Sony CDs not playing on non-Sony cd players? Or Sony-produced DVDs not working on non-Sony DVD players?

What we need here... (2)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281066)

What we need here is a petition that states that we will avoid buying this CD at all costs and will warn our friends to do the same because it is not standard Red Book Audio and will not play in and possibly damage our computers so it can be sent to Sony and used for posterity.

Once the marketers get it into their heads that Crippled CDs == Angry Customers == Lower Sales then things might start going the other way.

CD-Audio drives (1)

EdMcMan (70171) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281074)

An easy solution I can think of is just selling cd audio drives (no data) that read like normal cd players. That way, we can listen to copy protected cds, rip copy protected cds, hence making there no need to be copy protected cds in the first place.

Sony, I have a great idea for you.. here is how you make the PERFECT copy protection.

You will need: 1(One) CD (Compact-Disc), 1(One) big sharp object
Steps:
1.Place CD on flat surface, with the label side down.
2.Hold the big sharp object, be careful not to drop it on your toe, it will hurt.
3.Place the big sharp object's sharp point near the middle of the cd.
4.Apply pressure, and move the object toward the outside of the cd.
5.Rotate, and repeat.
Extra precautions: Breaking the CD in half will result in an extra layer of protection.

Clone CD can copy it (5, Informative)

PineGreen (446635) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281076)

For how to copy it and more information see here [cdmediaworld.com]

FTC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281081)

I wonder what the FTC would have to say about marketing intentionally defective products.

Not True (2, Funny)

automag_6 (540022) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281083)

I'll just put this thing in here and show you all that that story is total bullshi

ATZ0

NO CARRIER

When will they learn? (1)

Schlopper (413780) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281085)


This is yet another example of how the music industry is just
trying to grasp anything that would limit their so-called losses
due to digital music piracy.

They really should take a clue from the software protection world
and just give up. We've been through hardware dongles, serial keys,
scratched CD tracks.. none have worked.

Remember: It just takes 1 person with a decent sound card (A/D)
to capture the analog signal (from a 'regular' CD player), and there
you have your MP3, ready for your favorite P2P software. ;)

Does it crash Linux? ;) (1)

corezion (569278) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281087)

I imagine it's something to do with the whole Windows MacOS autostart crap. I'm sure if I wanted to rip the music from Linux it would be just fine. But who listens to Celine Dion?

Isn't it funny... (0)

xconslash (521219) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281089)

That recording companies can't seem to make any kind of decent anti-piracy, but If they were to hire any one of the geeks who can so easily circumvent their efforts, they could actually make something useful.

Sony Music vs. Sony Electronics (5, Funny)

PinchDuck (199974) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281090)

Let me get this straight: If I go shell ~$1800 USDfor a Sony Vaio (like I did 3 weeks ago), then I shell out another ~$20 USD for the disc, it not only will not play in their own damned PC, but it will crash their own system?

That shit is fucked up. I wonder if they make any claims as to the stability of their systems.

Who gives a shit! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281094)

Celine Dion SUCKS!!!

Talk about groups like Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Vex Red.. that's what I'm talking about.. these bands are ALL about what the fan himself/herself want..

FUCK THESE SELLOUTS!!!

Why not just use new media? (5, Interesting)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281096)

I think the RIAA should just use new media for music and stop using CD's. It'd be really simple for them to use a media format not unlike Nintendo's GameCube media. Heck, with modern compression schemes, they could use a higher frequency range and put all kinds of other doodads in it to make it better than the modern CD.

The media wouldn't have a drive for PC's, and if they patent the technology then nobody could release a PC drive. The only recourse would be for for people to run a cable from the device to the PC to capture the music. No matter what kind of 'protection schemes' they create, they'll never get around the fact that the sound becomes analog at some point. At least this way, they make it less convenient to copy the music.

This would go a lot farther than trying to preemptively punish me for being a criminal.

copy protection?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281100)

I don't see it helping much because I can always connect a cd player to my soundcard to record sound through line-in

Is it a marketing strategy? (2)

joestar (225875) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281104)

Will millions computer users go to stores buying this new CD to check if it really crash their PC or Mac? This strategy could really work! Actually in my own case, I couldn't deny that perhaps tomorrow I'm going to buy the CD just to check if it can crash my Mdk8.2 box (although I really doubt about that), and why!

My boss says to me... (1)

lux55 (532736) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281105)

At work today, all of a sudden I hear that corporate cringe [slashdot.org] crap coming out of my bosses office, and him just roaring.

So I go in and say 'what up', and he says to me 'at least we know Celine Dion will still have a job once she gets old and fat.'

Sony being sued, don't think so (2, Insightful)

beta21 (88000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281107)

I am very sure Sony thought this out in detail. The wording on the back of the CD (warning you not ot play onthe PC or MAC) most probably covers them.

Similar situation is like the warnings on bleach. Don't drink bleach. So by drinking it you can't sue the bleach company even if you wanted your insides sparkling clean.

Is there a location where we can find these CDs? (1)

mtrupe (156137) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281109)

Does anyone know of a website somewhere where I can find out if a CD is "protected" in such a fasion before I purchase it?

It's not a bug... (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281110)

It's a feature!

Farther? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3281111)

One has to wonder that since the PS2 is comprised of computer parts and has a kernel writen pretty much the same, if the CD will work in the PS2/PSX

Not that I'm willing to volunteer.

What a bunch of crap (3, Insightful)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281112)

Is anyone using any critical thinking? How can a particular combination of bits on a CD crash your computer, much less "cause damage to your computer"?

If your computer crashes based on a bad CD, then get a new CD-ROM drive because it's a piece of crap.

Assuming Sony is not doing anything physically wrong to the disk (like making it too thick or something absurd), there is no story here.

How can you tell.... (1)

Carbonite (183181) | more than 12 years ago | (#3281114)

whether Celine's CD crashes your computer or it's just one of Windows' normally scheduled crashes.

Seriously though, even though most of us don't give a fsck about Celine Dion, it's only a matter of time until they try this on good music. The time to take stand is now.

Carbonite
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